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Post by snacky on Mar 4, 2014 16:47:51 GMT
For Murdoch's standard I thought it was the scariest episode so far…I won't try to compare this episode with one of "American Horror Story"  It was a creepy episode. They don't normally get that violent. It was kind of like a period slasher movie lol. The head on the tray was gory. It was creepy and suspenseful - very well done! I'm glad MM doesn't push it any further than that. I'd rather enjoy the mystery than have to fight down nausea because of how gross the crime scene was. Period slasher movie, lol. Regarding Emily - George was the one who broke up with her, before their relationship had gone all that far. She's taking a Kate Middleton approach in showing she has her own life and has fun without the guy. Besides, I doubt either Leslie or Emily take their flirtation seriously, and eventually George will realize that. |
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Post by murdochic on Mar 4, 2014 17:37:29 GMT
It was a creepy episode. They don't normally get that violent. It was kind of like a period slasher movie lol. The head on the tray was gory. It was creepy and suspenseful - very well done! I'm glad MM doesn't push it any further than that. I'd rather enjoy the mystery than have to fight down nausea because of how gross the crime scene was. Period slasher movie, lol. Regarding Emily - George was the one who broke up with her, before their relationship had gone all that far. She's taking a Kate Middleton approach in showing she has her own life and has fun without the guy. Besides, I doubt either Leslie or Emily take their flirtation seriously, and eventually George will realize that. If MM had taken the violence and gore any further it would have been too much. MM isn't the most violent of shows. This episode took them to a line I doubt they'd want to cross. Great episode though. It kept your attention throughout. Emily and Garland are bound to fail badly. I still think Leslie is behind the letters, but either way he isn't to be trusted. But in terms of Emily, the lack of upset over the break-up once again illustrates how the E/G romance is severely lacking. W/J were shown to be upset over each other. And George was upset over Emily, but she didn't show any sadness and didn't even speak of it. William was dumped by Julia and yet he showed his sadness. It was jarring how Emily contrasted the others emotions so much. I expect her and George to probably reunite but I will never be behind that relationship. Emily just doesn't seem to care much about it, at all. They'd have to re-write her behaviour to make it believable. W/J are the only love story MM sells well. At least for me. I did enjoy Emily and Julia's dynamic this week. They make a good team. Two capable women who didn't need the men to come and rescue them. Though Emily leaving Julia when she was shouting for help was a bit hmm. Though I loved how they both took down the killer and solved the case. William isn't the only one who can solve a crime. They used all the characters well this week. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 4, 2014 22:32:36 GMT
I agree that the Emily/George relationship hasn't been quite compelling. I'm still trying to figure out why. Even though George is the comic relief, he has a sweet sincerity that could lead to romance. George/Violet worked for me, as well as the George/Murdoch.com woman (I forget her name).
I think Emily's motives aren't clear. The MM writers have shown what cads Emily's high class crowd can be, but they haven't shown how that would translate into interest in someone like George. He's not the "sexy bad boy" alternative, and he's not an intellectual match for Emily. As for Emily, she can't help but be a bit patronizing. Neither of them have a lot of options in terms of other show "regulars" though.
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Something is bothering me about William's wistful "From the first time I saw her, I knew she was the one for me" chat with George. I could swear that Julia had been working at the morgue at least 2 years at the time William's fiance Liza was only dead one year. While William and Julia were flirting a bit from episode 1, I didn't think William let himself start to think seriously about Julia until the seance with Ms. Pensall freed him from Liza.
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Post by murdochic on Mar 4, 2014 23:10:05 GMT
I agree that the Emily/George relationship hasn't been quite compelling. I'm still trying to figure out why. Even though George is the comic relief, he has a sweet sincerity that could lead to romance. George/Violet worked for me, as well as the George/Murdoch.com woman (I forget her name). I think Emily's motives aren't clear. The MM writers have shown what cads Emily's high class crowd can be, but they haven't shown how that would translate into interest in someone like George. He's not the "sexy bad boy" alternative, and he's not an intellectual match for Emily. As for Emily, she can't help but be a bit patronizing. Neither of them have a lot of options in terms of other show "regulars" though. *** Something is bothering me about William's wistful "From the first time I saw her, I knew she was the one for me" chat with George. I could swear that Julia had been working at the morgue at least 2 years at the time William's fiance Liza was only dead one year. While William and Julia were flirting a bit from episode 1, I didn't think William let himself start to think seriously about Julia until the seance with Ms. Pensall freed him from Liza. IMO the writers never did a good job of explaining E/G. I think that's part of the reason why I've never cared about the sub-plot. I don't understood why Emily wanted George to begin with. And the fact she acts bored or uninterested in him during S6 and S7 doesn't help things. If they want to sell E/G then they have to start showing Emily's side of things more. Because right now she just comes across as not invested in George. The writers haven't done a good job of exploring her in most ways. It feels like she's almost two dimensional. Her and Higgins need exploration as characters. It's time for that, they've earned it. Personally, I always had the impression that William and Julia were already crazy about each other from before the start of the show. But they had yet to act on it. There's been things said that suggest that's the case. What he said fitted for me. That's how I've always interpreted things on MM. But I suppose it's down to how viewers read the early episodes. We all see some things differently unless they're outright shown or stated. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 4, 2014 23:42:00 GMT
If they want to sell E/G then they have to start showing Emily's side of things more. Because right now she just comes across as not invested in George. Personally, I always had the impression that William and Julia were already crazy about each other from before the start of the show. Also, the things Emily *does* seem interested in don't seem to connect to George. I was intrigued by her "Flatliners" society, and her interest in exploring the frontiers of life and consciousness. I think the writers wanted to somehow connect that to George's flights of fancy regarding hobgoblins and aliens, but it didn't quite work. The humor of George's beliefs rely on his credulity. Emily is not credulous: her beliefs are grounded in experimental medicine. Regarding William/Julia - I agree they were interested in each other from episode 1, but I didn't think William was going to take it any farther until after the Pensall seance. I also wonder if Julia taking the step to say she'd miss him didn't play a role in his willingness to give up on the Inspector position. Regarding Higgins - I love him as a best friend to George, but I can't see Emily/Higgins. I suspect Higgins is a bit of a playboy. He might even end up as a "kept man" for some rich widow for a while... |
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Post by shangas on Mar 5, 2014 1:43:09 GMT
I just finished watching this episode.
Not bad, but in my mind, rather predictable. I think the whole axe-murderer thing was a bit overdone. The curling thing didn't hold my attention much, but I liked the winter-Olympics reference. Very relevant!!
The assassination episode coming up next sounds like a great one.
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Post by snacky on Mar 5, 2014 1:56:09 GMT
Not bad, but in my mind, rather predictable. The assassination episode coming up next sounds like a great one. I'm just grateful the villain didn't turn out to be Gillies. The Artful MM Writing Team is doing a good job of playing with audience expectations! I also love it when MM integrates real historical events. Weird to think that 2 years went by since Season 5 in "Murdoch time". The struggle over the Darcy divorce must have seemed eternal. I wonder how Julia will guarantee some private time with William. She may not have to say much. I noticed William was glancing to the left ("creative side of the brain") while considering Julia's actions. He will surely figure out something is up since he had directly discussed marriage with Julia many times before. Maybe there will be make-up cuddling. |
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Post by barbarama on Mar 5, 2014 21:40:22 GMT
Regarding Higgins - I love him as a best friend to George, but I can't see Emily/Higgins. I suspect Higgins is a bit of a playboy. He might even end up as a "kept man" for some rich widow for a while... Lol, I have never thought of that but now I can totally see it happening |
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Post by snacky on Mar 5, 2014 22:43:45 GMT
Regarding Higgins - I love him as a best friend to George, but I can't see Emily/Higgins. I suspect Higgins is a bit of a playboy. He might even end up as a "kept man" for some rich widow for a while... Lol, I have never thought of that but now I can totally see it happening Well Higgins was seen with someone above his station at the turn-of-the-century ball!  |
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Post by carco on Mar 6, 2014 0:18:17 GMT
It was a creepy episode. They don't normally get that violent. It was kind of like a period slasher movie lol. The head on the tray was gory. It was creepy and suspenseful - very well done! I'm glad MM doesn't push it any further than that. I'd rather enjoy the mystery than have to fight down nausea because of how gross the crime scene was. Period slasher movie, lol. Regarding Emily - George was the one who broke up with her, before their relationship had gone all that far. She's taking a Kate Middleton approach in showing she has her own life and has fun without the guy. Besides, I doubt either Leslie or Emily take their flirtation seriously, and eventually George will realize that. Snacky, re: your comment "Besides, I doubt either Leslie or Emily take their flirtation seriously, and eventually George will realize that." I hope you're right as I'd like to see George make a go of this relationship...he's ready. But in 1901 a casual relationship would be scandalous. there was no dating and courting was expected to end in marriage or it was halted very early in the game. On the girl's weekend, Emily mentioned that she spend a lot of time around the "boys" in medical school so I can see her slipping into a casual relationship with Leslie. But I'm not sure George would see it for what it was and if he did he would be horrified. In George's world he has only 2 options once he saw Emily's attention wandering to Leslie Garland (1) end the courtship and move on, or (2) fight to get his girl back. It seems that after taking the 1st step and after careful consideration, George has decided to proceed to step 2 and fight for his girl. I'm Team George and I hope Emily is worthy of him! |
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Post by snacky on Mar 6, 2014 0:32:46 GMT
in 1901 a casual relationship would be scandalous. there was no dating and courting was expected to end in marriage or it was halted very early in the game. On the girl's weekend, Emily mentioned that she spend a lot of time around the "boys" in medical school so I can see her slipping into a casual relationship with Leslie. But I'm not sure George would see it for what it was and if he did he would be horrified. I'm Team George and I hope Emily is worthy of him! A casual relationship would be scandalous for Emily, but not so much for Leslie. Hopefully she will realize that's what Leslie is all about soon. I doubt she's seriously interested in him anyway: she's just trying to send a message to George about how she's not dependent on him or his opinions. I'm Team George, too, but I think he deserves someone sweeter than Emily. But I also think Emily should get an invite to the guy's poker game. |
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Post by carco on Mar 7, 2014 17:40:20 GMT
in 1901 a casual relationship would be scandalous. there was no dating and courting was expected to end in marriage or it was halted very early in the game. On the girl's weekend, Emily mentioned that she spend a lot of time around the "boys" in medical school so I can see her slipping into a casual relationship with Leslie. But I'm not sure George would see it for what it was and if he did he would be horrified. I'm Team George and I hope Emily is worthy of him! A casual relationship would be scandalous for Emily, but not so much for Leslie. Hopefully she will realize that's what Leslie is all about soon. I doubt she's seriously interested in him anyway: she's just trying to send a message to George about how she's not dependent on him or his opinions. I'm Team George, too, but I think he deserves someone sweeter than Emily. But I also think Emily should get an invite to the guy's poker game. LOL! Yes, you're right about Leslie  and Emily may soon start pushing society's mores with regards to what women should and shouldn't do in those days. As Julia (did) does. Julia did it with class, Emily does it with sass. George had to arrest Julia once, I wonder if he's going to have to arrest Emily at some point. The men on this show (Brackenreid, Murdoch and Crabtree) aren't weak per se but as police officers they hold law and order in high respect yet each of them has their hands full with the women in their lives. I'll bet that was probably the case for many men in those times, I'm sure a lot of them had no idea what had happened to their meek and mild wives or sweethearts. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 7, 2014 19:00:06 GMT
LOL! Yes, you're right about Leslie and Emily may soon start pushing society's mores with regards to what women should and shouldn't do in those days. As Julia (did) does. Julia did it with class, Emily does it with sass. George had to arrest Julia once, I wonder if he's going to have to arrest Emily at some point. The men on this show (Brackenreid, Murdoch and Crabtree) aren't weak per se but as police officers they hold law and order in high respect yet each of them has their hands full with the women in their lives. I'll bet that was probably the case for many men in those times, I'm sure a lot of them had no idea what had happened to their meek and mild wives or sweethearts. It would be awesome if George had to arrest Emily!!! And I totally agree about the sass. I find it interesting that the men are carefully obseriving hierarchies amongst themselves (including George's superior rank in the Freemasons) while the women are contesting the "natural order". You go, gals! Also, it seems to me that George is trying to win Emily over with food.So far he's just been scouting out new and exotic foods like hamburgers, hotdogs, and pizza. But given all the other domestic skills he gained from his aunts, I suspect George might actually be an excellent chef. Perhaps he should carry on his siege with pies and pastries - or better yet French cuisine. |
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Post by carco on Mar 9, 2014 0:40:51 GMT
LOL! Yes, you're right about Leslie and Emily may soon start pushing society's mores with regards to what women should and shouldn't do in those days. As Julia (did) does. Julia did it with class, Emily does it with sass. George had to arrest Julia once, I wonder if he's going to have to arrest Emily at some point. The men on this show (Brackenreid, Murdoch and Crabtree) aren't weak per se but as police officers they hold law and order in high respect yet each of them has their hands full with the women in their lives. I'll bet that was probably the case for many men in those times, I'm sure a lot of them had no idea what had happened to their meek and mild wives or sweethearts. It would be awesome if George had to arrest Emily!!! And I totally agree about the sass. I find it interesting that the men are carefully obseriving hierarchies amongst themselves (including George's superior rank in the Freemasons) while the women are contesting the "natural order". You go, gals! Also, it seems to me that George is trying to win Emily over with food.So far he's just been scouting out new and exotic foods like hamburgers, hotdogs, and pizza. But given all the other domestic skills he gained from his aunts, I suspect George might actually be an excellent chef. Perhaps he should carry on his siege with pies and pastries - or better yet French cuisine. Yikes! If George took up French cuisine, I'm afraid he might snag Julia rather than Emily! Julia totally lost her cool in the new Franch restaurant a few episodes back. Seems to be her downfall. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 9, 2014 3:30:33 GMT
George might actually be an excellent chef. Perhaps he should carry on his siege with pies and pastries - or better yet French cuisine. Yikes! If George took up French cuisine, I'm afraid he might snag Julia rather than Emily! Julia totally lost her cool in the new Franch restaurant a few episodes back. Seems to be her downfall. lol, I noticed that, too. Perhaps William needs to apply some of his chemistry skills toward learning French cuisine. Julia's downfall might also be her aphrodisiac. But it seems like the way to Emily's heart is through her stomach as well. George might start bringing in pastries and little treats while claiming that they were made by one of his aunts. Also now that we're in the era of film, there will be new and exciting places to take a date for dates who crave new and exciting things... |
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and Emily may soon start pushing society's mores with regards to what women should and shouldn't do in those days. As Julia (did) does. Julia did it with class, Emily does it with sass. George had to arrest Julia once, I wonder if he's going to have to arrest Emily at some point. The men on this show (Brackenreid, Murdoch and Crabtree) aren't weak per se but as police officers they hold law and order in high respect yet each of them has their hands full with the women in their lives. I'll bet that was probably the case for many men in those times, I'm sure a lot of them had no idea what had happened to their meek and mild wives or sweethearts.