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Post by snacky on Apr 2, 2014 6:27:10 GMT
Then there is the fact that he is a very clever man, I can quite imagine Murdoch investing his meager savings and turning them into a lucrative profit. And of course there are his inventions, George is forever going on about how Murdoch could make money from them, perhaps he did. LOL at the thought of George selling William's inventions (and perhaps giving him stock market tips). On the down side, there was a stock market crash after the assassination of McKinley. I agree William is frugal and could probably save a lot as a single man. But Julia's still probably the one buying dinner at the fancy French restaurant. I really do like the thought of William, the self-made man, getting rich off his inventions like Edison. This episode makes me curious about what what his professional ambitions are. Did he just give up at the "glass ceiling", or is he waiting patiently for times to change?
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Post by shangas on Apr 2, 2014 11:28:45 GMT
I really liked this episode. But I'm looking forward to next week's episode even more!
But enough about that.
The Early 20th Century was much as this episode implied. There was a lot more noise and inudstry. Typewriters. Sewing machines. Telephones. Motor-cars. Telegraphic equipment. Horses. Carriages. Machinery. Anything new was likely to be treated with suspicion. When the Flatiron Building in New York (built around the same time) was opened, city residents filed complaint after complaint. One of them, was that the building's shape caused powerful wind-tunnels that in one instance, supposedly smashed the windows of a shop down the street.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 2, 2014 14:35:41 GMT
True Murdoch does make a comment about not wanting to have only a few months of happiness...but I don't see how that applies here because her father is an old man...if it were an inheritable disease it wouldn't likely affect her until much later too. Also, if the secret was just that they share an inheritable disease, then why would he get murdered soon after contacting her? And also, the producers aren't so dumb as to throw yet another obstacle to prevent them from being together. They know they will lose a lot of viewers if a proposal/marriage doesn't happen soon. And killing Julia off would also be suicidal for their ratings.
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Post by snacky on Apr 2, 2014 15:34:18 GMT
I really liked this episode. But I'm looking forward to next week's episode even more! But enough about that. The Early 20th Century was much as this episode implied. There was a lot more noise and inudstry. Typewriters. Sewing machines. Telephones. Motor-cars. Telegraphic equipment. Horses. Carriages. Machinery. Anything new was likely to be treated with suspicion. When the Flatiron Building in New York (built around the same time) was opened, city residents filed complaint after complaint. One of them, was that the building's shape caused powerful wind-tunnels that in one instance, supposedly smashed the windows of a shop down the street. There's always a fight over something new. The fate of newspapers is in that category today. There's somethng good in how things have always been done, and it's hard to imagine the replacement will be much better. I thought the boosterism of Chantal Bisson was great, too. I love that the Murdoch Mysteries team actually thought of this. Did someone write a book on turn-of-the-century noise pollution? Also, has William ever been that sympathetic to a murderer? (Besides the woman who justice had already failed in the Wonderland ep?)
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Post by snacky on Apr 2, 2014 15:37:15 GMT
True Murdoch does make a comment about not wanting to have only a few months of happiness...but I don't see how that applies here because her father is an old man...if it were an inheritable disease it wouldn't likely affect her until much later too. Also, if the secret was just that they share an inheritable disease, then why would he get murdered soon after contacting her? And also, the producers aren't so dumb as to throw yet another obstacle to prevent them from being together. They know they will My thought is the injection is from some radical treatment, which William and Julia initially mistake for murder. Regarding genetic diseases - some strike at variable times at life. Also there are some with a pretty horrible end that people may not want to subject loved ones to.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 2, 2014 16:13:53 GMT
True Murdoch does make a comment about not wanting to have only a few months of happiness...but I don't see how that applies here because her father is an old man...if it were an inheritable disease it wouldn't likely affect her until much later too. Also, if the secret was just that they share an inheritable disease, then why would he get murdered soon after contacting her? And also, the producers aren't so dumb as to throw yet another obstacle to prevent them from being together. They know they will My thought is the injection is from some radical treatment, which William and Julia initially mistake for murder. Regarding genetic diseases - some strike at variable times at life. Also there are some with a pretty horrible end that people may not want to subject loved ones to. But why would he get a radical treatment that could possibly immediately kill him like right before he was going to speak with Julia? And if he was getting this treatment on a regular basis, there would be multiple injection sites...
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Post by snacky on Apr 3, 2014 0:25:01 GMT
My thought is the injection is from some radical treatment, which William and Julia initially mistake for murder. Regarding genetic diseases - some strike at variable times at life. Also there are some with a pretty horrible end that people may not want to subject loved ones to. But why would he get a radical treatment that could possibly immediately kill him like right before he was going to speak with Julia? And if he was getting this treatment on a regular basis, there would be multiple injection sites... Maybe the radical treatment was a long shot, and he wanted to speak to Julia in case he died?
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Post by petruck on Apr 3, 2014 21:01:41 GMT
Preview spoiler Warning!!
Having watched the preview over many times, I think it might have something to do with what that old woman says. Murdoch asks her if she had to do it (something?) over again, what would she choose?... I think there is some reference there to time (a few months maybe?) spent with someone she loved before she chose something other than her love and it all came to an end. I think Murdoch was using that conversation as a reference when he said "I don't just want a few months of happiness..."
Again pure speculation but what fun it is anticipating!!
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Post by snacky on Apr 4, 2014 2:03:32 GMT
Preview spoiler Warning!! Having watched the preview over many times, I think it might have something to do with what that old woman says. Murdoch asks her if she had to do it (something?) over again, what would she choose?... I think there is some reference there to time (a few months maybe?) spent with someone she loved before she chose something other than her love and it all came to an end. I think Murdoch was using that conversation as a reference when he said "I don't just want a few months of happiness..." I think William was referencing that conversation, too, though it might just be clever cutting on the part of whoever puts together those previews. Since Julia's father had a "secret", it probably might have only been a few months spent with him. Perhaps Julia's father married Julia's mother because she was pregnant (explaining his rift with Julia), but he loved this other woman (yet didn't get back to her until later in life). I kind of wish William had been talking to a man, because it would have been more interesting if Julia's mother became pregnant before or during some early break in the marriage - i.e. Julia would have a different father, which would make Daddy Ogden grumpy with her for: not being his, reminding him of a troubled spot with his wife, and for running wild and getting pregnant.
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Post by barbarama on Apr 4, 2014 17:29:33 GMT
Look who's back!!! Happy to see you're posting again Cosmic Cavalcade I'm very excited by the season finale, only a few days left and I feel much better now that Season 8 has been announced!! )
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Apr 4, 2014 18:23:57 GMT
Haha, yeah, I guess I'm a liar. Thanks AA!
Me too! I've been bouncing off the walls more than usual.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Apr 6, 2014 22:33:25 GMT
...Julia was obviously desperate for another marriage proposal. She was so much desperate than she tried to get informations from the Inspector BRACKENREID. This little scene made me laugh.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Apr 6, 2014 23:28:13 GMT
Another thought - William might not have cold feet about proposing, but he might have cold feet about meeting Julia's father. If, as Petruck suggested, William feels somewhat insecure about the class and financial gap between him and Julia, he might be afraid that Julia's father would voice that concern out loud and even try to prevent the marriage. The Mayor thing was the fastest excuse William could think of. (Though he might still be angling for a promotion: if not to "Inspector" then some government position. I don't think that money or his social class is a problem for William. Indeed, he proposed Julia twice (Ok, the first time, he just imagined how he would do his proposal but he wanted to marry her and if he didn't miss the train... aaarrrgh! And the second time, Julia couldn't accept... They are cursed!) and he even dreamed of the wedding ceremony in the sixth season and to finish -and more important-, he encouraged George to go through the class and financial gap when this later wanted to court Emily. How can he ignore his own advice? It's also true that Ruby told Julia that their father could be against their marriage but I think he couldn't prevent it even if he wanted to. Remember what William said to Julia: "Together, we are stronger than anyone". Moreover, Julia is very stubborn. A last thing: perharps Inspector BRACKENREID still has some scotch!
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Post by snacky on Apr 6, 2014 23:34:47 GMT
...Julia was obviously desperate for another marriage proposal. She was so much desperate than she tried to get informations from the Inspector BRACKENREID. This little scene made me laugh. I wish Brackenreid had turned busybody and pointed out just how many times William has tried to propose. Julia's just going to have to be patient at this point. Though plying William with liquor usually helps things along.
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Post by snacky on Apr 6, 2014 23:40:44 GMT
I don't think that money or his social class is a problem for William. Indeed, he proposed Julia twice (Ok, the first time, he just imagined how he would do his proposal but he wanted to marry her and if he didn't miss the train... aaarrrgh! And the second time, Julia couldn't accept... They are cursed!) and he even dreamed of the wedding ceremony in the sixth season and to finish -and more important-, he encouraged George to go through the class and financial gap when this later wanted to court Emily. How can he ignore his own advice? It's also true that Ruby told Julia that their father could be against their marriage but I think he couldn't prevent it even if he wanted to. Remember what William said to Julia: "Together, we are stronger than anyone". Moreover, Julia is very stubborn. A last thing: perharps Inspector BRACKENREID still has some scotch! If you count William having the ring in his hand during Buffalo Shuffle, I count three attempts! I think his advice to George was partly the argument he was using to convince himself, but he's not so sure about it: it's manly to be confident, though. I can't remember when Ruby told Julia that their father would be against her marrying William, but I do see that as a concern lurking in the background - as much because William is Catholic as because he's an upstart from the vulgar classes.
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