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Post by snacky on Apr 20, 2014 5:30:16 GMT
Not technically. You have to read the last book in the series. The lady he ends up with is very forward thinking , like Julia. Glad to hear it. I didn't see much chemistry with Enid. It was like William was anxious to get laid, and the Baptist lady was the only one in the neighborhood. Yikes! |
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Post by shangas on Apr 20, 2014 5:43:57 GMT
I really hope that William's family (his half-brother and maybe his dad) attend the wedding.
Perhaps William's brother joins the Toronto P.D., and becomes a police-detective? Keep it in the family and such.
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Post by snacky on Apr 20, 2014 5:44:06 GMT
Mrs. Brackenreid will want a job. Julia will venture once again into feminist issues like birth control, which will create conflict with the constabulary and with William. Maybe there will even be a musical episode : they talked about that at the Fan Expo last year. At the Canadian Television Festival Q and A session Lachlan Murdoch mentioned a wish for love interest for his character, Henry. That's all I can think of for now. Great thought for Mrs. Brackenreid! I don't like the idea of a completely musical episode - that would just take me out of the "world" of Murdoch Mysteries. Whenever shows resort to that, they end up parodying themselves. However, I don't mind it when the mystery itself is imbued with music - like the Ragtime episode. Shocking Temperance League Toronto (and especially William) with a sexy dance was one of my favorite bits on MM. (Also, Julia buying the tickets and Julia wanting to be liberated from her corset!) I also liked the idea of music advances being pursued through underground speakeasies. William will have to take a different set of dance lessons. (Though I'm sure he will be glad to be rid of the waltz). Are any of the Station 4 guys musically-inclined? I don't believe I've seen anyone playing an instrument. I can see Henry joining a band. I'm not so sure about giving Henry a stable sweetheart. I like how he's been depicted in the past: a not-particularly-serious ladies man who can sometimes score a high class lady - but he's just as likely to be found in a brothel. I think I commented elsewhere that he seems like the type to be leeching off of a wealthy widow. One of his dates will probably turn out to be an evil-doer. I like the idea of Henry/Emily even less than George/Emily. Perhaps Emily can find a date that will be a way to introduce a new semi-regular cast member. I just can't help seeing both Henry and George as comic relief, and that makes it hard for me to ship either of them. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 20, 2014 5:48:32 GMT
- Insp. B. will return. Maybe with a limp and more use of his cane. Or possibly takes more of a desk-job. Maybe William will make him a trick cane.  |
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Post by shangas on Apr 20, 2014 11:50:10 GMT
That could work. One that doubles as a rifle. Or something like that.
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Post by snacky on Apr 20, 2014 23:02:19 GMT
I want William and Julia to go on an ice skating date: so romantic if you have to hold on to each other, or if you end up in a heap! Coincidentally, Madge Syers first woman to compete in the World Figure Skating Championships in 1902. She one a silver medal. Women were banned from the World Championships after that, but then they got their own "Ladies" competitions. Women were allowed into the Olympics (Skating was one of the first "Winter" sports), and Madge won that, too. The ISU (International Skater's Union), founded in 1892, is one of the oldest International sports federations. Canada didn't join it until 1911 (it tried to form an alternative federation in with the US in 1907}. Though it was conceived as "men only" because of the competitive element, they didn't actually ban women until a woman showed up. "Syers' entry into the World Championships prompted the ISU to discuss the subject of women competing against men at their next Congress in 1903. The concerns raised were that "(1) the dress prevents the judges from seeing the feet; (2) a judge might judge a girl to whom he was attached; and (3) it is difficult to compare women with men."[8] The Congress voted six to three in favour of barring women from the championships." However, I wonder if this started a women's skating craze. Wouldn't a woman winning a medal while competing against men be the talk of the town? Also, if there were women actually aspiring to compete, where would they practice? Did they have to fight hockey players for space?    |
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Post by Beckers68 on Apr 26, 2014 16:57:38 GMT
This is off the subject a little but someone mentioned nothing happened in 1902. That may be true in Toronto, but has everyone forgotten that Arthur Conan Doyle was knighted in 1902 after the release of The Hound of the Baskervilles? That would be great if the characters could be there to see it and have a mystery to solve surrounding it.
I would also love to see the wedding happen quickly, so maybe they could work on the issue of her infertility. Maybe she could suddenly get pregnant, both surprised thinking it would be impossible. Then as a twist she might lose the baby.(I know that sounds cruel.) But that would set Julia up to figure out the medical mystery of infertility, or why she got pregnant in the first place. She would be the brilliant doctor, setting infertility recovery methods ahead of their time. Kind of pulling a Murdoch! They would get pregnant again, maybe in season 9 and have a little Murdoch!
I certainly hope Brakenreid with be okay and his recovery swift. I would hate to lose him!
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Post by snacky on Apr 26, 2014 19:45:16 GMT
I would also love to see the wedding happen quickly, so maybe they could work on the issue of her infertility. Maybe she could suddenly get pregnant, both surprised thinking it would be impossible. Then as a twist she might lose the baby.(I know that sounds cruel.) I think infertility research is a good direction for Julia to go in. I found out somewhere that the first artificial insemination was done in the 19th century, so I'm sure there were other advances. I definitely like my MM with a side of angst, so losing the baby is possible. I've been contemplating what MM can get away with in terms of level of darkness. One the best things about MM is it doesn't degrade people, and I wouldn't want that to change. Yet when I think on it, MM has touched upon some pretty awful situations - a woman that was gang-raped, a guy who immolated himself, a guy who was blown up, a woman that was beheaded, Brackenreid being beaten in the street. So it's not necessarily the subject matter, but rather the treatment of the subject matter. I read an offhand comment a few days ago that illuminated this problem for me. In discussing the evolution of the Stargate franchise, someone complained that Stargate Universe had a different "style and mood" than the original Stargate television series. There is something similar about the original Stargate and MM that I've been trying to put my finger on, and I thought it came down to how they presented the human spirit - i.e., not degrading. But that raises the question of how shows manifest that quality. What is the "style and mood" that achieves that effect? The original Stargate also had some pretty dark subjects - a woman who was enslaved and raped, lizards that took over your brain, imprisonment and torture, character deaths (including a rather horrible one by radiation). Yet when Stargate told that story it somehow and a mythological feel that focused on heroic actions. If you told that same story on Spartacus (Starz channel), there would be graphic rape, close-ups of torture, all served up with "realistic" foul language - stuff that makes you feel like a dirty perv just for watching it. I'm still trying to figure out how "mood and style" is achieved: it also involves subconscious elements like color palette and music. But, in short, I think MM could explore the darkest subject matter as long as they could tell the story within the "mood and style" that the audience expects. By the way - "mood and style" can also be ruined on the "light" extreme. I wouldn't want to see MM turn into a sitcom, and I object to a musical episode. Those would totally break suspension-of-disbelief/world-continuity for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 13:34:44 GMT
I only mentioned a musical episode because the cast actually brought this up last year at a panel discussion. I certainly see how this would be difficult to do without becoming an embarrassing parody. But I have lots of trust in the writers of this series. If they decide to do it they will figure out how to make it work.
If they don't I won't be disappointed either.
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Post by snacky on Apr 27, 2014 19:07:02 GMT
I only mentioned a musical episode because the cast actually brought this up last year at a panel discussion. I certainly see how this would be difficult to do without becoming an embarrassing parody. But I have lots of trust in the writers of this series. If they decide to do it they will figure out how to make it work. If they don't I won't be disappointed either. Maybe they should try it as a webisode? Carco's post about annoying things about Julia brought to mind the word "Shrew" which brought to mind "The Taming of the Shrew" which brought to mind "Kiss Me Kate" which brought to mind the musical episode of Moonlighting. If I remember correctly, didn't that start the whole wave of "musical episodes" in the early 90s? Anyway, still hope MM doesn't go there. Julia doesn't need any taming! |
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Post by carco on Apr 27, 2014 22:24:56 GMT
I only mentioned a musical episode because the cast actually brought this up last year at a panel discussion. I certainly see how this would be difficult to do without becoming an embarrassing parody. But I have lots of trust in the writers of this series. If they decide to do it they will figure out how to make it work. If they don't I won't be disappointed either. Maybe they should try it as a webisode? Carco's post about annoying things about Julia brought to mind the word "Shrew" which brought to mind "The Taming of the Shrew" which brought to mind "Kiss Me Kate" which brought to mind the musical episode of Moonlighting. If I remember correctly, didn't that start the whole wave of "musical episodes" in the early 90s? Anyway, still hope MM doesn't go there. Julia doesn't need any taming! I really hope they don't do the musical thing  . I was fine with all the boundaries they pushed in S7, but musical ?? Nope. Not interested. If someone insists that it has to be done then I agree that webisode is where it should play. No, no don't "tame" Julia!! I love it when she messes with Murdoch's head and life. |
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Post by carco on Apr 27, 2014 23:06:16 GMT
This isn't a S8 discussion point but wasn't sure where else to post it. I didn't realize until this week that the Royal York Hotel was built in 1927 on the site of the old Queens Hotel. If you are not familiar with Toronto; until relatively recent years, the Royal York was the centre of the Toronto skyline and is still a landmark hotel. Union Station is right across the street. This website has some info and pics, if interested: heritagetoronto.org/the-queens-hotel/So, just to show how Murdoch Mysteries has played havoc with my brain, one of the first things that came to mind was "I wonder if they found a domino when they were excavating the site?" |
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Post by snacky on Apr 28, 2014 0:27:50 GMT
So, just to show how Murdoch Mysteries has played havoc with my brain, one of the first things that came to mind was "I wonder if they found a domino when they were excavating the site?" From Wikipedia: "Ivory Dominoes were routinely used in 19th century rural England in the settling of disputes over traditional grazing boundaries, and were commonly referred to as "bonesticks" " I've never actually played dominoes. Is it as mentally challenging as chess? Was it a ritzy club game like backgammon? Are "puzzlers" into it? Can you make secret codes out of them? Since they were used in Rube Goldberg machines, did they hold a special fascination for inventors and gadget-lovers? When William brought the dominoes to the Queens Hotel, it made me curious about the old games that have gone out of fashion. I'm not even sure I've ever seen real dominoes, though I think I've seen comic bits on TV where someone trips over and ruins an elaborate domino construction. I hope we see more dominoes in Season 8, even if they are just a cute love code between William and Julia. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 4:01:22 GMT
Maybe they should try it as a webisode? Carco's post about annoying things about Julia brought to mind the word "Shrew" which brought to mind "The Taming of the Shrew" which brought to mind "Kiss Me Kate" which brought to mind the musical episode of Moonlighting. If I remember correctly, didn't that start the whole wave of "musical episodes" in the early 90s? Anyway, still hope MM doesn't go there. Julia doesn't need any taming! I really hope they don't do the musical thing . I was fine with all the boundaries they pushed in S7, but musical ?? Nope. Not interested. If someone insists that it has to be done then I agree that webisode is where it should play. No, no don't "tame" Julia!! I love it when she messes with Murdoch's head and life. Absolutely! I think that's why he loves her: she constantly challenges him to push his boundaries. And she does it with class. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2014 4:05:40 GMT
I really hope that William's family (his half-brother and maybe his dad) attend the wedding. Perhaps William's brother joins the Toronto P.D., and becomes a police-detective? Keep it in the family and such. A reappearance of Jasper Linney is also on my wish list. However, I have a thing for that Mountie uniform so I wouldn't want home to give that up' |
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. I was fine with all the boundaries they pushed in S7, but musical ?? Nope. Not interested. If someone insists that it has to be done then I agree that webisode is where it should play.