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Post by snacky on May 22, 2014 7:39:09 GMT
I just noticed in Friday the 13th, the ring William snaps has a red stone. I thought the ring he originally bought in the Tesla effect had a blue stone. It's actually hard to tell in that episode. Any other opinions on the color of the ring or did William actually replace the "cursed ring" at some point?
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Post by carco on May 22, 2014 19:35:51 GMT
I just noticed in Friday the 13th, the ring William snaps has a red stone. I thought the ring he originally bought in the Tesla effect had a blue stone. It's actually hard to tell in that episode. Any other opinions on the color of the ring or did William actually replace the "cursed ring" at some point? Hi snacky...yes, originally the ring William purchased for Julia was sapphire and diamonds. That episode was supposed to be the series finale as the network cancelled the show after the 5th season. When it was picked up by CBC, they had to carry on with the story of their lives and for whatever reason (continuity slip, I guess) that ring was the one Darcy gave Julia and William's ring was ruby and diamonds. |
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Post by snacky on May 22, 2014 23:19:43 GMT
Hi snacky...yes, originally the ring William purchased for Julia was sapphire and diamonds. That episode was supposed to be the series finale as the network cancelled the show after the 5th season. When it was picked up by CBC, they had to carry on with the story of their lives and for whatever reason (continuity slip, I guess) that ring was the one Darcy gave Julia and William's ring was ruby and diamonds. Oh no, does that mean Julia was wearing the ring William bought for her the whole time she was married to Darcy? How sad? T_T Every time, William looked at here, he must have thought, "I bought her a ring just like that, but Darcy got the credit." Red seems an unusual choice for an engagement ring. At least I think it would be in the US. You would think he'd go for a different pattern if he was going to buy a new ring, too. Also, he was richer after he came back from the Yukon, so he could have afforded an even nicer one.  |
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Post by carco on May 23, 2014 18:10:27 GMT
Oh no, does that mean Julia was wearing the ring William bought for her the whole time she was married to Darcy? How sad? T_T Every time, William looked at here, he must have thought, "I bought her a ring just like that, but Darcy got the credit." Red seems an unusual choice for an engagement ring. At least I think it would be in the US. You would think he'd go for a different pattern if he was going to buy a new ring, too. Also, he was richer after he came back from the Yukon, so he could have afforded an even nicer one. Lol  Well it was sad that Julia was wearing Darcy's ring - period!! I think the props dept got confused, what with all these men buying rings for Julia! Sapphire/diamond engagement rings were common in Britain and the colonies but I imagine any valuable gemstone served the purpose in those days so William's choice of ruby was likely not at all unusual. I'm not a historian and haven't looked up customs regarding rings but I know Queen Victoria started the "white wedding dress" (white signifying purity) and maybe several other wedding customs. |
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Post by snacky on May 23, 2014 20:15:19 GMT
Queen Victoria started the "white wedding dress" (white signifying purity) and maybe several other wedding customs. Wow I didn't know that! Poor Julia. One monarch too late to avoid questions about the color of her wedding dress. Wa, look at this Dearest ring: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dearest_ringI like it better than the confusing Darcy/William one. |
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Post by lovemondays on May 29, 2014 3:43:06 GMT
I am pretty sure the ring Wm bought was a ruby with diamonds. I really wanted it to be a sapphire, to highlight Julia's eyes, but the light hit it briefly showing it to be red. Darcy's ring was a sapphire.
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Post by snacky on May 29, 2014 3:54:53 GMT
I am pretty sure the ring Wm bought was a ruby with diamonds. I really wanted it to be a sapphire, to highlight Julia's eyes, but the light hit it briefly showing it to be red. Darcy's ring was a sapphire. I think both rings are too gaudy. Even though Wikipedia says it's not an engagement ring, I like the Dearest ring, or something more delicate.  |
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Post by lovemondays on May 29, 2014 4:10:07 GMT
I don't know about gaudy, but definitely more than a detective would be expected to afford. I think William sees himself as solidly middle class and that has been a large part of his reluctance to cement his relationship with upper class Julia. Either he isn't good enough for her or he doesn't want to make her 'step down' in class. Marrying out of your class and gasp, out of your faith, were huge deals in those days. I think the more elaborate ring was William's way of leveling things.
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Post by snacky on May 29, 2014 4:17:34 GMT
I don't know about gaudy, but definitely more than a detective would be expected to afford. I think William sees himself as solidly middle class and that has been a large part of his reluctance to cement his relationship with upper class Julia. Either he isn't good enough for her or he doesn't want to make her 'step down' in class. Marrying out of your class and gasp, out of your faith, were huge deals in those days. I think the more elaborate ring was William's way of leveling things. I agree with your reasoning for why William would want to purchase an expensive ring. I guess he would want her to be able to show off the ring to her peers, male and female, too. I can't imagine wearing something like that personally, though. Especially if you have small, delicate hands! |
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Post by mrsbrisby on Jul 19, 2014 8:42:54 GMT
At the end of The Tesla Effect, the ring William gets from the jeweler has a sapphire surrounded by diamonds, and I regret the change to a ruby ring. |
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Post by carco on Jul 19, 2014 19:01:03 GMT
At the end of The Tesla Effect, the ring William gets from the jeweler has a sapphire surrounded by diamonds, and I regret the change to a ruby ring. Yes, there was a switch. William originally bought the sapphire ring for Julia, then she became engaged to Darcy and her engagement ring was the sapphire one. This was apparently a background, 'props' thing and was not meant to be part of the story line in any way. So, the ring left sitting in William's drawer became a ruby surrounded by diamonds. We have dubbed it the "cursed ring" due to it's unexplained transformation to a ruby while sitting in William's desk drawer, it's inclusion in a couple of sad, frustrating scenes when Ruby and Julia find it and the key role it played in William's 2nd proposal 'fail'. Hopefully, it will turn out to be the "blessed" ring.  |
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Post by mrsbrisby on Jul 20, 2014 6:12:17 GMT
Yes, I hope so carco. A general observation--the crew of MM goes to a lot of trouble to get the period details right and I think they go a marvelous job, but they slip up every once in a while like the ring going from a sapphire to a ruby.
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Post by snacky on Jul 20, 2014 16:51:42 GMT
At the end of The Tesla Effect, the ring William gets from the jeweler has a sapphire surrounded by diamonds, and I regret the change to a ruby ring. Hopefully, it will turn out to be the "blessed" ring. Just watched Murdoch in Ragtime with my Mom last night, with William pulling out the Cursed Ring yet again! To me there's an extra frisson in thought that William was watching Julia wearing "his" original ring throughout the Darcy marriage!  |
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Post by lovemondays on Jul 21, 2014 21:42:58 GMT
I just noticed in Friday the 13th, the ring William snaps has a red stone. I thought the ring he originally bought in the Tesla effect had a blue stone. It's actually hard to tell in that episode. Any other opinions on the color of the ring or did William actually replace the "cursed ring" at some point? I've been playing with my new found screen cap abilities...hehehe. So to answer the question, here is the video progression of the rings. The ring William bought, first seen in his proposal fanstasy in "The Tesla Effect". A round sapphire with diamonds.  This is the ring he pulls out of his desk drawer during "Tattered and Torn". A marquise cut ruby.  Here is "Darcy's" ring, at a most inopportune moment...the ring isn't as clear but it is a round sapphire surrounded by diamonds.  I think the props and continuity departments really screwed up!! So now we have a cursed ring in an already angst-filled shipper arc. Just what the need. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jul 21, 2014 21:57:57 GMT
There's more....
The ring George and Ruby found in William's desk in "Murdoch in Wonderland".
Finally, the only glimpse of William's ring at the end of "The Death of Dr. Ogden".
It's such a quick peek and poorly lit so you can`t really tell the shape, let alone the stone. It`s anybody`s guess which ring will end up on Julia`s finger in season 8!
I hope this clears things up...or NOT! 
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Well it was sad that Julia was wearing Darcy's ring - period!! I think the props dept got confused, what with all these men buying rings for Julia! 
