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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 8, 2014 12:12:43 GMT
I still think your Asperger's (or something similar) theory still holds a lot of merit as well. Autism spectrum disorders mean that a person is more likely to have more trouble with certain tasks/concepts, but not that they can't be overcome. But, the show would probably just call it character development. Is Asperger's considered significantly "curable"? You could say William was held off the marriage market by Asperger's until his mid-30s (Liza aside). But then there's also the curious fact that William seems to have enjoyed a late recovery. (Julia has miraculous healing powers!) I would say Yannick played Aspergers in Season 1, and perhaps with a lighter touch in Season 2. The Season 4 autism episode Dead End Street indicated William at least had leanings in that direction. But in Season 5 he's "coming out of his shell", and in the seasons after that he's both holding up his end of communications with Julia and really asserting himself on the job as well. So are the writers now arguing in hindsight he was just a "shy nerd" before? Because I think Yannick was playing it a bit more extreme than that. Not curable per se, but in high functioning autism (aka Asperger's) one typically learns how to appropriately behave in various social situations. You could argue that William has learned just that. Julia was a good teacher I think-or she certainly motivated him to improve his skills. It helps that she "speaks his language". I think he was playing extreme, socially awkward nerd, and not someone with Asperger's per se, but, I suppose anything's possible.
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 14:02:46 GMT
Salacious revelations! Perhaps Julia's hesitation in The Green Muse had something to do with evaluating for STDs after all... Such as William fathered a child with his favorite logging camp prostitute and she had an abortion-and he didn't learn of it until after the fact? Or, he almost killed (or maybe actually did) someone in a drunken brawl? Nah! Something like William fathering a child with a married woman (he very nearly fell over with Sally Pendrick even as a fully grown man). As a less experienced youngster, he might have eaten the whole apple before he realized it was poisonous.
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Post by snacky on Sept 8, 2014 15:39:21 GMT
Not curable per se, but in high functioning autism (aka Asperger's) one typically learns how to appropriately behave in various social situations. You could argue that William has learned just that. Julia was a good teacher I think-or she certainly motivated him to improve his skills. It helps that she "speaks his language". I think he was playing extreme, socially awkward nerd, and not someone with Asperger's per se, but, I suppose anything's possible. I would only say Asperger's for the first season. I'd be bummed to think William was mimicking any behavior around Julia, but the idea of her teaching/motivating him is a cozy one!
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Post by snacky on Sept 8, 2014 15:41:17 GMT
Nah! Something like William fathering a child with a married woman (he very nearly fell over with Sally Pendrick even as a fully grown man). As a less experienced youngster, he might have eaten the whole apple before he realized it was poisonous. lol! I agree William might have had a thing for older women, but I also think he might have been more prudent than that.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 8, 2014 16:17:03 GMT
Such as William fathered a child with his favorite logging camp prostitute and she had an abortion-and he didn't learn of it until after the fact? Or, he almost killed (or maybe actually did) someone in a drunken brawl? Nah! Something like William fathering a child with a married woman (he very nearly fell over with Sally Pendrick even as a fully grown man). As a less experienced youngster, he might have eaten the whole apple before he realized it was poisonous. Ooh, that's nice and salacious as well. What else could it be? Whatever it is, it's got to be a doozy!
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 16:33:55 GMT
lol! I agree William might have had a thing for older women, but I also think he might have been more prudent than that. Haha, got you there, snacky. I couldn’t resist getting outrageous about things . I was just having a laugh. I don’t think any of these theories will happen at all. Honestly though, I think these secrets are results of things we’ve already seen on the show, like William finally telling the Inspector that he faked Anna’s death. I don’t think he’s told him yet, or what really happened between him and Falcone. Since "Everyone's got something to hide", I suppose some other characters may have a few confessions as well.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 8, 2014 16:46:06 GMT
lol! I agree William might have had a thing for older women, but I also think he might have been more prudent than that. Haha, got you there, snacky. I couldn’t resist getting outrageous about things . I was just having a laugh. I don’t think any of these theories will happen at all. Honestly though, I think these secrets are results of things we’ve already seen on the show, like William finally telling the Inspector that he faked Anna’s death. I don’t think he’s told him yet, or what really happened between him and Falcone. Since "Everyone's got something to hide", I suppose some other characters may have a few confessions as well. I don't know-for it to really be of interest to the viewer, it's got to be something we don't already know. It could be wishful thinking, but I think William needs some sort of skeleton to come out of his closet. Regarding your theory about his dalliance with a married woman, I like it because at least the child would be an adult by this point, and wouldn't the cute kid that wrecks things. I hate when long running shows all of sudden inherit a kid-worst plot device ever! Not, that I think MM would do that, but still.....
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 17:17:49 GMT
Haha, got you there, snacky. I couldn’t resist getting outrageous about things . I was just having a laugh. I don’t think any of these theories will happen at all. Honestly though, I think these secrets are results of things we’ve already seen on the show, like William finally telling the Inspector that he faked Anna’s death. I don’t think he’s told him yet, or what really happened between him and Falcone. Since "Everyone's got something to hide", I suppose some other characters may have a few confessions as well. I don't know-for it to really be of interest to the viewer, it's got to be something we don't already know. It could be wishful thinking, but I think William needs some sort of skeleton to come out of his closet. Regarding your theory about his dalliance with a married woman, I like it because at least the child would be an adult by this point, and wouldn't the cute kid that wrecks things. I hate when long running shows all of sudden inherit a kid-worst plot device ever! Not, that I think MM would do that, but still..... My original theory is the type of juicy stuff I expect to see but knowing TV shows and the way they hype things up before hand only to come to nothing afterwards, I don’t think MM will go there. Besides, if it is to be William’s secret, he should be aware of it by now. He doesn’t seem to have been hiding anything of the sort so far. If he is only just finding out then it is not a secret for him, it is news. Still juicy all the same. If William has something in his closet, I want it to be a real biggie like that.
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Post by snacky on Sept 9, 2014 4:23:17 GMT
lol! I agree William might have had a thing for older women, but I also think he might have been more prudent than that. Haha, got you there, snacky. I couldn’t resist getting outrageous about things . I was just having a laugh. I don’t think any of these theories will happen at all. Honestly though, I think these secrets are results of things we’ve already seen on the show, like William finally telling the Inspector that he faked Anna’s death. I don’t think he’s told him yet, or what really happened between him and Falcone. Since "Everyone's got something to hide", I suppose some other characters may have a few confessions as well. hmm, that's true - William has a few skeleton's in the closet that we've seen: namely making decisions of conscience that involved circumventing the law. This could be an allusion to Anna's return as well!
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Post by snacky on Sept 9, 2014 4:27:59 GMT
but I think William needs some sort of skeleton to come out of his closet. Regarding your theory about his dalliance with a married woman, I like it because at least the child would be an adult by this point, and wouldn't the cute kid that wrecks things. I hate when long running shows all of sudden inherit a kid-worst plot device ever! Not, that I think MM would do that, but still..... ITA about sudden kids being the worst plot device - and MM writers may be tempted to provide William with a child that way at some point given Julia's infertility. I do hope they let Julia pursue some medical solutions first, though!!! What other secrets might result from a dalliance with an older/married woman? Perhaps he didn't know she was married? Perhaps he helped her cover up a crime...(such as the murder of an abusive husband?). Perhaps he was tricked?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 10, 2014 2:39:04 GMT
but I think William needs some sort of skeleton to come out of his closet. Regarding your theory about his dalliance with a married woman, I like it because at least the child would be an adult by this point, and wouldn't the cute kid that wrecks things. I hate when long running shows all of sudden inherit a kid-worst plot device ever! Not, that I think MM would do that, but still..... ITA about sudden kids being the worst plot device - and MM writers may be tempted to provide William with a child that way at some point given Julia's infertility. I do hope they let Julia pursue some medical solutions first, though!!! What other secrets might result from a dalliance with an older/married woman? Perhaps he didn't know she was married? Perhaps he helped her cover up a crime...(such as the murder of an abusive husband?). Perhaps he was tricked? By all means, let the infertility be an issue and dealt with on the show-it's a germane and relevant topic, IMO; but please, don't let the storyline turn into a bad fanfic. *shudders* But, yes, I'm intrigued at the thought of William having a dalliance with an older woman/widow. Whatever the show decides to do, William needs a most unWilliamlike skeleton in his closet.
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Post by snacky on Sept 10, 2014 7:14:12 GMT
But, yes, I'm intrigued at the thought of William having a dalliance with an older woman/widow. Whatever the show decides to do, William needs a most unWilliamlike skeleton in his closet. I think William needs a Mrs. Robinson in his closet.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 1:47:14 GMT
Or maybe it's Ettie! (Refers back to my thread about the movies )
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Post by snacky on Sept 15, 2014 4:42:57 GMT
OMG, maybe the secret son theory, hahahaha.
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Post by snacky on Sept 15, 2014 6:09:03 GMT
Or maybe it's Ettie! (Refers back to my thread about the movies ) Did you see the new promo and the spoilers thread?
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