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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 16:00:30 GMT
You're not in the minority. I'm in the minority (and a killjoy) for being extremely worried about that. Most people here think marriage is long overdue and MM will thrive after. There are a couple of ominous opinions to the effect that it's time for the marriage to occur and then it's time for MM to run its course. I'm for as much MM as possible! I don't usually *want* to see Emily...but I think it's because the writers haven't given me a good enough hook for her yet. She's been given conflicting backstories, mostly faded copies of other characters, and the stakes are not very high with her yet. But I don't dislike her, and I probably would want to see more of her if the writers dangled some serious bait. I do worry somewhat that MM has run it's course but if they get back to basics and have the relationship as a background story rather than a B plot I think it could go on for years. I haven't really been a fan of Emily. I see why they brought her in, they needed someone else to be the pathologist when Julia left then became a psychiatrist. She's done her job and I have to admit that I am liking her more in season 7 (despite Leslie Garland). I especially like the fact that she and Julia have become friends and confidants. I loved her in Friday the 13th, 1901, she gave Julia some wonderful advice and I really liked the line that if Julia didn't tell William Gillies had already won. Best piece of advice in the show. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 16:01:43 GMT
As to them getting married, yeah I'm a bit anxious there too if I'm being completely honest. The truth is they were boring in S3 for the most part. At least I found them boring. There was little passion. No real drama or conflict except for the beginning and end of the season. But I guess it was kind of a stop gap point in time. Murdoch was stalling indefinitely... Season 3 could be representative of what it will be like for them to be already married. They kiss every three episodes to keep the shippers happy: no drama or conflict. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 16:07:37 GMT
I especially like the fact that she and Julia have become friends and confidants. I loved her in Friday the 13th, 1901, she gave Julia some wonderful advice and I really liked the line that if Julia didn't tell William Gillies had already won. Best piece of advice in the show. I like Emily's potential to be even more radical than Julia: she represents a younger generation that can shock what was supposed to be "modern" in Julia's day. I also think they should bring some of her "weird science" exploration back. Perhaps she should attempt to participate in the actual scientific community. Women were physically excluded from the room most of the time - so how could they read papers, network, join in the conversation? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 16:11:17 GMT
Murdoch would be ruined if he ever found out. Didn't we see it in William's memory? He already knows.  |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 16:13:29 GMT
Murdoch would be ruined if he ever found out. Didn't we see it in William's memory? He already knows. He didn't know when he was talking to Harry, he clearly blamed him for his mother's death. He probably knows now Harry told him he didn't hit her. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 16:18:39 GMT
I also think they should bring some of her "weird science" exploration back. Perhaps she should attempt to participate in the actual scientific community. Women were physically excluded from the room most of the time - so how could they read papers, network, join in the conversation? Funny you should say that, IN THE BOOK, A Journeyman to Grief, Julia invited Murdoch to accompany her to a lecture so she could sit closer to the stage and not at the back of the room with the women. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 16:25:21 GMT
I also think they should bring some of her "weird science" exploration back. Perhaps she should attempt to participate in the actual scientific community. Women were physically excluded from the room most of the time - so how could they read papers, network, join in the conversation? Funny you should say that, IN THE BOOK, A Journeyman to Grief, Julia invited Murdoch to accompany her to a lecture so she could sit closer to the stage and not at the back of the room with the women. I was reading a book about Lise Meitner and she practically had to do her work from a sterilized bubble. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 18, 2014 16:27:44 GMT
Didn't we see it in William's memory? He already knows. He didn't know when he was talking to Harry, he clearly blamed him for his mother's death. He probably knows now Harry told him he didn't hit her. I think the information was in his subconscious, but his defenses made Harry available to blame. Once he questioned whether Harry was totally to blame, he could examine the whole memory - which would have revealed his mother tripping over the scattered wood. Julia may have some psychoanalyzing to do...  |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 18, 2014 16:33:46 GMT
He didn't know when he was talking to Harry, he clearly blamed him for his mother's death. He probably knows now Harry told him he didn't hit her. I think the information was in his subconscious, but his defenses made Harry available to blame. Once he questioned whether Harry was totally to blame, he could examine the whole memory - which would have revealed his mother tripping over the scattered wood. Julia may have some psychoanalyzing to do... It seems to me that he's still blocking it out as he didn't remember it when he was talking of being afraid uneasy of butterflies. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 18, 2014 16:39:56 GMT
I think the information was in his subconscious, but his defenses made Harry available to blame. Once he questioned whether Harry was totally to blame, he could examine the whole memory - which would have revealed his mother tripping over the scattered wood. Julia may have some psychoanalyzing to do... It seems to me that he's still blocking it out as he didn't remember it when he was talking of being afraid uneasy of butterflies. Ooh, good point. Uh, oh. It's starting to sound like "Guilt Ahoy" is coming into port. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Sept 18, 2014 16:49:22 GMT
It seems to me that he's still blocking it out as he didn't remember it when he was talking of being afraid uneasy of butterflies. Ooh, good point. Uh, oh. It's starting to sound like "Guilt Ahoy" is coming into port. Yeah I was always under the impression that the flashback wasn't in Murdoch's 'head' but rather just a way to show the viewers a possible alternate scenario. And then he had a lot of thinking to do but Julia was with him distracting him no doubt, so he probably didn't delve as deep as he should have to get down to the bottom of his repressed memories. Could this guilt ahoy ep be the Murdoch's past one? I was hopping for stud muffin's up in a logging camp.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 18, 2014 16:49:35 GMT
It's funny that you mention Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman because that's my husband's nickname for Julia. He also refers to it as the "ye olde crossdressing show" because out of the episodes he's seen, most have featured some crossdressing. Haven't seen enough eps to appreciate it, though Sully is kind of hot. I'm not curious what the timeline was between when the marriage occurred, when the show ended, and the apparent "Sully in hiding" period. I don't think I've ever seen it either. My brother and his teenaged buddies watched way back in the day (something I endlessly gave them crap for) and now my husband has told me that he watched it. My husband's asleep now, or I'd ask what was so appealing about the show. I don't get it. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 18, 2014 16:51:35 GMT
Ooh, good point. Uh, oh. It's starting to sound like "Guilt Ahoy" is coming into port. Yeah I was always under the impression that the flashback wasn't in Murdoch's 'head' but rather just a way to show the viewers a possible alternate scenario. And then he had a lot of thinking to do but Julia was with him distracting him no doubt, so he probably didn't delve as deep as he should have to get down to the bottom of his repressed memories. Could this guilt ahoy ep be the Murdoch's past one? I was hopping for stud muffin's up in a logging camp. Is it too late to vote for stud muffins up in a logging camp? |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Sept 18, 2014 16:53:52 GMT
As to them getting married, yeah I'm a bit anxious there too if I'm being completely honest. The truth is they were boring in S3 for the most part. At least I found them boring. There was little passion. No real drama or conflict except for the beginning and end of the season. But I guess it was kind of a stop gap point in time. Murdoch was stalling indefinitely... Season 3 could be representative of what it will be like for them to be already married. They kiss every three episodes to keep the shippers happy: no drama or conflict. I think there'd be a little more sauce than that. He wouldn't have to hold back. Neither of them would. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 18, 2014 16:55:34 GMT
Ooh, good point. Uh, oh. It's starting to sound like "Guilt Ahoy" is coming into port. Yeah I was always under the impression that the flashback wasn't in Murdoch's 'head' but rather just a way to show the viewers a possible alternate scenario. And then he had a lot of thinking to do but Julia was with him distracting him no doubt, so he probably didn't delve as deep as he should have to get down to the bottom of his repressed memories. Could this guilt ahoy ep be the Murdoch's past one? I was hopping for stud muffin's up in a logging camp. I hope it's not the "Glory Days" ep? I want salacious secrets to come out, but nothing that will gut or destroy our boy. However, easily resolved angst is acceptable. |
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