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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:13:15 GMT
Any sort of kissing in public would probably be considered crude if not scandalous. That's another reason I'm inclined to think The Green Muse went a little farther in William's imagination than it actually went on the picnic blanket. He's shown himself quite capable of doing things he wouldn't normally when having an 'out of William' experience, such as with Anna in Bristol when he'd lost his memory. In The Green Muse he wasn't just under the influence but under the influence of a very potent drink. I'm sure he wouldn't have done half the things he did if he'd been himself. lol "Out of William" experience. I'm sure Julia is already working on how to bring these on!  |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:14:34 GMT
French kissing might count as an exotic practice - but probably something to be done in a room rather than out on the street. Any sort of kissing in public would probably be considered crude if not scandalous. That's another reason I'm inclined to think The Green Muse went a little farther in William's imagination than it actually went on the picnic blanket. I think the only real time I had them French kissing was after he learned it from future Julia and then went back to his time to try it out on past Julia. This was a fic...not just in my head. Dang you for intimidating me with the size of your opus. Still need to make some inroads into that... Perhaps someone could make a list of order of best approach for me...? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:16:10 GMT
I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere that there would be some episodes dealing with mining strikes. Wouldn't the donkeys be needed for that? but then what's up with the temple of doom? Isn't that the episode that relates to the Freemasons? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:18:07 GMT
that someone was probably me...i was under the impression it was a western...but it could be both as talbotrail pointed out. obviously murdoch used to be a gunfighter...actually...if he DID have some kind of notorious past and then gave it up it could totally explain why he never uses a gun!!!  Well given that William has been anything else...why not? And that would give him a very scandalous secret! He could have started out as a casual bounty hunter and segued into constable work... |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:19:49 GMT
Glory Days isn't a 'western' it takes place after Bat Masterson becomes an insurance ... whatever ... and comes to Canada. I think they may be after someone from his lawman days though. This was one of the eps we saw in the preview at MME. Looks good! ohhh. i haven't seen the preview and i don't intend to but i remember there being publicity shots of the men on horses around a train and then murdoch getting knocked out of a barn or something. so naturally i thought train heist but maybe not. I thought he was being knocked out of a train car...? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 4:20:53 GMT
Glory Days isn't a 'western' it takes place after Bat Masterson becomes an insurance ... whatever ... and comes to Canada. I think they may be after someone from his lawman days though. This was one of the eps we saw in the preview at MME. Looks good! I've just been reading up on Bat Masterson and I didn't find anything about insurance, I was sure I'd read that he went into insurance after his other exploits. Oh well it isn't really important. I thought he went into journalism...? |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 19, 2014 4:41:39 GMT
I've just been reading up on Bat Masterson and I didn't find anything about insurance, I was sure I'd read that he went into insurance after his other exploits. Oh well it isn't really important. I thought he went into journalism...? He did but I thought I'd seen somewhere that he did something in the insurance industry. It caught my attention as my husband is in insurance. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 19, 2014 4:53:32 GMT
ohhh. i haven't seen the preview and i don't intend to but i remember there being publicity shots of the men on horses around a train and then murdoch getting knocked out of a barn or something. so naturally i thought train heist but maybe not. I thought he was being knocked out of a train car...? Wait, there's pics of Murdo getting knocked out of a train car? Where? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 5:19:35 GMT
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Post by bloodyfruitfly on Sept 19, 2014 7:44:12 GMT
I too want to get the marriage over and done with, it's time, it can't be dragged on forever. It doesn't have to kill the show but I am still a little worried about what they'll do with it. What we're forgetting here is not everyone that watches the show is a shipper. There's a large male following, as evidenced by the number of men at the MME, and not all the female fans are invested in the Jilliam relationship. That's just one part of the show. This show works on so many levels for different people, that's the beauty of it and why I think it's so successful. Murdoch's past will be dealt with in season 8 as per Christina Jennings. Talking of his past it seems to me that no one has mentioned that Murdoch is ultimately responsible for his mother's death. She slipped on a log from the woodpile, young Murdoch was playing in the woodpile and spread it all over. Hence it was his fault that the log was in a position for her to slip on it and hit her head on the hearth and from there get a concussion which lead to her falling in the water and drowning. I agree that there are plenty of combinations of characters to work with but you have to be careful, it is MURDOCH Mysteries so you can't go off on too much of a tangent with other characters. I wouldn't put all the blame on poor little Willie. In the books his mother was hit by Harry and she smacked her head into the hearth. Then he demanded she go down to the river to get him some kind of clams? for dinner. So if she drowned in the show as well, I'm guessing she went to do the same thing. If she had just been allowed to rest a bit, she probably wouldn't have died. So I think they are both to blame in the show's scenario, whether Harry hit her or not. I am from the states and lucky for me I came across Murdoch Mysteries early in the year on Ovation and was instantly hooked. I confess I have never seen the movies or read the books and so my perspective is only based on what the show shows me. It would be a dramatic episode if they indeed have poor William realizing he contributed in his mothers death. Even if it's an accident and Harry is partially to blame, as an eight year old young William will take the full blame, definitely a guilt ahoy episode. Good thing Julia became a psychiatrist. I do have to say I prefer William with Julia the psychiatrist, then Julia the coroner. I am not sure why, maybe it puts them on a more equal playing field professionally and intellectually. On a side note, my husband is a fan, he loves Brackenreid and the humor with Crabtree and Murdoch. He isn't for or against the relationship, but he keeps grumbling that they should just marry them off already. Maybe he's a romantic at heart. My 85 year mother is hooked as well, she watches the show over and over.  |
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Post by bloodyfruitfly on Sept 19, 2014 7:46:10 GMT
Oops I am sorry I don't quite have the quotes option down, the first paragraph in my post was a quote by someone else.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 19, 2014 8:27:47 GMT
I too want to get the marriage over and done with, it's time, it can't be dragged on forever. It doesn't have to kill the show but I am still a little worried about what they'll do with it. What we're forgetting here is not everyone that watches the show is a shipper. There's a large male following, as evidenced by the number of men at the MME, and not all the female fans are invested in the Jilliam relationship. That's just one part of the show. This show works on so many levels for different people, that's the beauty of it and why I think it's so successful. Murdoch's past will be dealt with in season 8 as per Christina Jennings. Talking of his past it seems to me that no one has mentioned that Murdoch is ultimately responsible for his mother's death. She slipped on a log from the woodpile, young Murdoch was playing in the woodpile and spread it all over. Hence it was his fault that the log was in a position for her to slip on it and hit her head on the hearth and from there get a concussion which lead to her falling in the water and drowning. I agree that there are plenty of combinations of characters to work with but you have to be careful, it is MURDOCH Mysteries so you can't go off on too much of a tangent with other characters. I wouldn't put all the blame on poor little Willie. In the books his mother was hit by Harry and she smacked her head into the hearth. Then he demanded she go down to the river to get him some kind of clams? for dinner. So if she drowned in the show as well, I'm guessing she went to do the same thing. If she had just been allowed to rest a bit, she probably wouldn't have died. So I think they are both to blame in the show's scenario, whether Harry hit her or not. I always enjoy George and Julia. They're either super sweet like big sister and little brother, or they're hysterical because she eggs him on with his wild theories. As to them getting married, yeah I'm a bit anxious there too if I'm being completely honest. The truth is they were boring in S3 for the most part. At least I found them boring. There was little passion. No real drama or conflict except for the beginning and end of the season. But I guess it was kind of a stop gap point in time. Murdoch was stalling indefinitely... I think he was stalling as well. He goes to all that effort to get her back and makes the grand gesture of jumping into the balloon with her to get her back, and then...settles right back into complacency. I could see how Julia got frustrated with him by the end of the season, but I don't agree with how she handled it. But, we've had that discussion before. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 19, 2014 8:30:22 GMT
What we're forgetting here is not everyone that watches the show is a shipper. There's a large male following, as evidenced by the number of men at the MME, and not all the female fans are invested in the Jilliam relationship. The free iTunes ep really should have been posted on Reddit and other places Americans might find it. But I didn't do it precisely because of this: the Season 7 finally was obviously a "shipper" ep, and I thought it would actually turn new (male) views off from the show. For promotional purposes, I wish the free episode had been a different one. MM isn't showing up at all in my iTunes, and yes, I'm using the US version. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 19, 2014 8:32:41 GMT
You're not in the minority. I'm in the minority (and a killjoy) for being extremely worried about that. Most people here think marriage is long overdue and MM will thrive after. There are a couple of ominous opinions to the effect that it's time for the marriage to occur and then it's time for MM to run its course. I'm for as much MM as possible! I don't usually *want* to see Emily...but I think it's because the writers haven't given me a good enough hook for her yet. She's been given conflicting backstories, mostly faded copies of other characters, and the stakes are not very high with her yet. But I don't dislike her, and I probably would want to see more of her if the writers dangled some serious bait. I do worry somewhat that MM has run it's course but if they get back to basics and have the relationship as a background story rather than a B plot I think it could go on for years. I haven't really been a fan of Emily. I see why they brought her in, they needed someone else to be the pathologist when Julia left then became a psychiatrist. She's done her job and I have to admit that I am liking her more in season 7 (despite Leslie Garland). I especially like the fact that she and Julia have become friends and confidants. I loved her in Friday the 13th, 1901, she gave Julia some wonderful advice and I really liked the line that if Julia didn't tell William Gillies had already won. Best piece of advice in the show. I like the idea of Emily and think she's cute and fun-but you're right. They've got to get a handle on who she is and give her a backstory that sticks as opposed to one that's constantly changing. Myself, I like the bubbly Emily with a ghoulish streak. She's fun, and there needs to be more of that. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 19, 2014 8:43:28 GMT
I just don't want either of them looking like it's starting to become a chore. I felt William was getting to the verge of that at the end of Ragtime. On the S1 DVD there's a commentary for Power featuring YB, JH, Cal Coons and someone who's name escapes me. YB commented on the kissing saying something to the effect that open mouthed kissing hadn't come to Victorian Toronto. I've always taken that to be why the kissing is so chaste. In Ragtime, I thought William has a "you're killing me here" look in on his face. But I thought it was more from sexual frustration than boredom. As for the openmouthed kissing, or even French-kissing, I refuse to believe that it was never done before WWI. For thousands of years, people have been kissing and it was only the 1910's before someone thought to slip in a little tongue? Nonsense.  It may have not been discussed publicly or even written, but I think it was happening.  |
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