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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 20:39:06 GMT
Hmm. Well given the past tendency of the hat to come off when William gets wet, he's going to be in danger indeed. I wonder what episode that's for. I agree he probably donated the old hat for the ALS challenge after the new one was on its way. I still wish some of the other ALS challenges had been done a la Time Lord! He only got the last hat at the beginning of S7 and I had the impression he'd had that one since S1, though how it would last that long I don't know. Did anyone notice that he started out (European order) with a different hat which still appears in all the stock scenes. Glad they changed it to the current Homburg, a much more stylish hat. No! Say it isn't so! He had a different hat? What kind of hat was it?
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Post by Hodge on Sept 19, 2014 21:16:15 GMT
He only got the last hat at the beginning of S7 and I had the impression he'd had the previous one since S1, though how it would last that long I don't know. Did anyone notice that he started out (European order) with a different hat which still appears in all the stock scenes. Glad they changed it to the current Homburg, a much more stylish hat. No! Say it isn't so! He had a different hat? What kind of hat was it? Here it is, not saying there's anything wrong with it, it does suit him but it's not the magic Homburg. Attachment DeletedFunny thing is he started out in Glass Ceiling with the classic Homburg and then this hat showed up in, I think, the second episode that was filmed. He was wearing his usual Homburg in Power but that was filmed much later in the season. Anyway, this hat still appears in many of the stock cycling shots.
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Post by snacky on Sept 19, 2014 23:56:23 GMT
No! Say it isn't so! He had a different hat? What kind of hat was it? Here it is, not saying there's anything wrong with it, it does suit him but it's not the magic Homburg. Funny thing is he started out in Glass Ceiling with the classic Homburg and then this hat showed up in, I think, the second episode that was filmed. He was wearing his usual Homburg in Power but that was filmed much later in the season. Anyway, this hat still appears in many of the stock cycling shots. Yeesh, I don't like it. The homburg has much more the look of the Surrealist Salary Man of the Jungian Unconscious. I Googled the new one, and I'm not sure it's the same as the old homburg. I'm going to be looking closely at Yannick's upcoming twitter promo shots.
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Post by Hodge on Sept 20, 2014 0:39:12 GMT
Yeesh, I don't like it. The homburg has much more the look of the Surrealist Salary Man of the Jungian Unconscious. I Googled the new one, and I'm not sure it's the same as the old homburg. I'm going to be looking closely at Yannick's upcoming twitter promo shots. I don't mind the old one, it's just not as classy as the new one. The new one is is a much better quality hat. You don't think the new Homburg is the same as the last one? Why?
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Post by snacky on Sept 20, 2014 0:45:39 GMT
Yeesh, I don't like it. The homburg has much more the look of the Surrealist Salary Man of the Jungian Unconscious. I Googled the new one, and I'm not sure it's the same as the old homburg. I'm going to be looking closely at Yannick's upcoming twitter promo shots. I don't mind the old one, it's just not as classy as the new one. The new one is is a much better quality hat. You don't think the new Homburg is the same as the last one? Why? The pictures on Google made the brim look bigger and the crown a little wider, but it might be the camera angle. I need some reassurance from seeing William wearing it. I doubt Team MM would mess with viewers on the Magic Homburg point though - that's an icon of the character!!!!
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Post by Hodge on Sept 20, 2014 0:58:18 GMT
I don't mind the old one, it's just not as classy as the new one. The new one is is a much better quality hat. You don't think the new Homburg is the same as the last one? Why? The pictures on Google made the brim look bigger and the crown a little wider, but it might be the camera angle. I need some reassurance from seeing William wearing it. I doubt Team MM would mess with viewers on the Magic Homburg point though - that's an icon of the character!!!! I just checked out YB's ALS challenge but you can't see the label inside, too much pommade. It may not have been bought from the same store so wouldn't have The Hatter's stamp on the sweatband. I can't see them changing it too much.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 15:45:10 GMT
It didn't anger me, (that was 6.12 and 6.13) but it definitely threw me for a loop. I was practically yelling at the tv being like what are you TALKING about you big dumb dumb!! How many (non-alcoholic) spruce beers did you drink?! Yeah, if he'd said something "I always thought she was the one for me" I probably would have said "awwww, bless!" But, he had to add that ever since he met her part. Grrrr.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 15:49:16 GMT
OH please, when is the next meeting of the Cult of he Logging Camp Sisterhood? I believe FallenBelle is the Eternal President of that cult? I lead the Cult of the Magic Homburg. Eternal president? Ooh! But yes, the logging camp sisterhood (or fellowship-men are welcome too) theorizes on what William got up to at the logging camp. Which may or may not have involved whoring.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 15:53:04 GMT
Yeah, as much as I love my duality theory (and I'm not yet ready to abandon it ) I'm starting to come around to the idea that William's been with other women, if not Julia. As recently as season 5-with Anna Fulford. OH please, when is the next meeting of the Cult of he Logging Camp Sisterhood? Whenever you'd like. You bring the popcorn and I'll bring the wine?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 15:55:01 GMT
Their relationship evolved over the course of the series, but when he's drinking with George he makes it sound like he's been kneeling at her altar the whole time - definitely fan service. I agree definitely fan service that's why I'm in the writer's flub camp but I do like the other theory. Sometimes we have to fit our theories around the canon. Continuity or not, it's now canon, so we have to work with it. However strange it is.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 15:56:20 GMT
Also, so, I just finished rewatching Murdoch Identity, and I agree, he's "brash" and forward and yes, there was no hesitation in making the moves on her. He knew what he was doing. I too, would have liked that scene to go on a bit longer. Stupid villains! This is still one of my favorite episodes because the "Outside of Murdoch" experience says so much about William's regular identity at the same time. And plus there's angst, romance, and he get's to do a little heroic ass-kicking, too. And there's a bicycle chase! And, as Murdochic likes to point out, William remembers Julia in lingerie... Or was William remembering fantasizing about Julia in lingerie?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 16:03:27 GMT
But it didn't have to be a way to woo your sweetheart-it could have been done when you were in the throes of passion. Such as being a sexually frustrated William or Julia. I would say William was probably wooing during the first 4 seasons. But perhaps they were getting adventurous with some French kissing in season 7... That scene in Ragtime screams sexual frustration! I'm thinking just chaste kisses weren't cutting it by season 7. Especially the end.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 20, 2014 16:08:39 GMT
I wasn't necessarily just talking of wooing, I was including everything in courting. Perhaps a proper lady wouldn't want her gentleman friend sticking his tongue in her mouth. To be honest it doesn't really sound particularly delightful and as Snacky said not many men are skilled in the art. I'm interested in what Mrs. Brisby's copy of the Kama Sutra has to say, because I'm sure William has a much dog-eared copy, and at some point will want to try out some stuff. I've seen some other references, but here's one: hotspits.blogspot.jp/2008/04/kissing-techniques-of-kama-sutra.html
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Post by mrsbrisby on Sept 20, 2014 16:21:09 GMT
OH please, when is the next meeting of the Cult of he Logging Camp Sisterhood? Whenever you'd like. You bring the popcorn and I'll bring the wine? Sounds good, but give me a day to drive up.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Sept 20, 2014 16:58:52 GMT
Which ep is this "memories" ep anyway? I thought it was "Glory Days", but then someone said that was the one with the gunfighters. that someone was probably me...i was under the impression it was a western...but it could be both as talbotrail pointed out. obviously murdoch used to be a gunfighter...actually...if he DID have some kind of notorious past and then gave it up it could totally explain why he never uses a gun!!! There are several years that need to be accounted for in William's past. He left school at 17 or 18 to go to the lumber camps. They only did lumbering for about eight months of the year, so what did he do the other four months of the years he was a lumberjack? If he stayed with lumbering for ten years he would have been 28 when he came to Toronto and if he joined the Constabulary immediately (and I assume WM is about 44) that means he has been on the force for sixteen years. That tracks more or less, with what I have been able to pick up. Please let me know if there is a definitive take on this. If however, he only spent five or six years as a lumberjack that means he joined the force twenty-one years ago, or found some other way to occupy his time for those five years. I have some doubts about him being a gunfighter only because in "A Walk on the Wild Side" he said that it was the first time he had killed a man when he shot Anna's would-be assassin. There are a couple of possibilities: It was the first time ever in his life he killed someone or it was the first time since he has been a policeman that he killed someone, which implies he may have killed before. It seems to me the writers dropped the ball again in that scene. William was genuinely upset that he had killed the man, but Brackenreid brushed it off and William did not discuss it with Anna. Exploring his emotions about killing the man might have provided some insight into WM's past. I thought the way the writer's brought up the subject and then dropped it was poorly done.
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