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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 14:54:11 GMT
I'm kinda surprised George hadn't gotten Murdo a present earlier than like the day before the bachelor party...I would've thought he'd have gone out and bought something as soon as he learned they were engaged. But I guess that was supposed to allow for a comedic moment with Henry. Probably. Also, I have no doubt that George will select a very beautiful, tasteful gift that reflects his sensitivities-such a nice clock-or something along those lines. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 14:57:38 GMT
#%#&$@& - Kindle ate a long post earlier (as well as eating all the quotes I was replying to).  Anyway...while I was watching Season 3, I had the passing thought that Julia might have wanted to resign as coroner because she was afraid of seeing William on her slab. She had been traumatized by The Murdoch Identity, and then in The Tesla Effect, William was nearly fried. Perhaps her issues weren't just about wanting to heal children. It's one thing if the one you love has a dangerous job, it's another to have the official duty to perform an autopsy on him! Once again...it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall if Julia was analyzed by Freud... I do think Brackenreid will have to have that conversation with William...  Ooh, fair point. I can't believe I've never thought of that before! Well she managed to cut open her dear old dad but I suppose that was rather difficult even if they weren't that close. I suspect that it wasn't any one thing, but a myriad of things, such as being frustrated that William wasn't making any moves towards a future, career prospects, and possibly even fear at seeing him on the slab all drove her towards that move. But in the Death of Dr. Ogden, doesn't even W ask her somewhat incredulously about her cutting dad open? He thinks she's somewhat crazy, but he humors her because he's that in love with her. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 15:56:45 GMT
I suspect that it wasn't any one thing, but a myriad of things, such as being frustrated that William wasn't making any moves towards a future, career prospects, and possibly even fear at seeing him on the slab all drove her towards that move. During their 'what will happen to us' conversation Julia says "I can't ignore opportunities on the off chance that y...." I'm convinced she was going to say "you propose" but couldn't actually say it to William. If she had I'm sure he'd have proposed the next time he saw her, he does need that time to gather his thoughts. Anyway it's a moot point now and we wouldn't have been in the 8th season if that had happened. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 16:08:51 GMT
I suspect that it wasn't any one thing, but a myriad of things, such as being frustrated that William wasn't making any moves towards a future, career prospects, and possibly even fear at seeing him on the slab all drove her towards that move. During their 'what will happen to us' conversation Julia says "I can't ignore opportunities on the off chance that y...." I'm convinced she was going to say "you propose" but couldn't actually say it to William. If she had I'm sure he'd have proposed the next time he saw her, he does need that time to gather his thoughts. Anyway it's a moot point now and we wouldn't have been in the 8th season if that had happened. I think she was about to say it as well. As Snacky has mentioned before, William has probably never had to pursue a woman-I'm betting Liza more or less dropped hints that it was time, and he complied, and was probably waiting for Julia to do the same. But, for all her confidence, she's terrified of being rejected, and can't bring herself to say it. So, she rejects before she can be rejected. We talk of William's character growth (of which there is much), but I think her showing up in a scarlet dress (very symbolic, IMO) to a proper policeman's ball (and not a swinging society do) to ask him to take her back is monumental! She set herself up for a major fall, there! |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 16:20:15 GMT
I think she was about to say it as well. As Snacky has mentioned before, William has probably never had to pursue a woman-I'm betting Liza more or less dropped hints that it was time, and he complied, and was probably waiting for Julia to do the same. But, for all her confidence, she's terrified of being rejected, and can't bring herself to say it. So, she rejects before she can be rejected. We talk of William's character growth (of which there is much), but I think her showing up in a scarlet dress (very symbolic, IMO) to a proper policeman's ball (and not a swinging society do) to ask him to take her back is monumental! She set herself up for a major fall, there! Julia's mental state seems to be worse than William's in the earlier seasons as you say she really does have major rejection paranoia. Hopefully studying under Freud helped her with that as she seems to be able to put herself out there more in the later seasons. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 16:39:27 GMT
I think she was about to say it as well. As Snacky has mentioned before, William has probably never had to pursue a woman-I'm betting Liza more or less dropped hints that it was time, and he complied, and was probably waiting for Julia to do the same. But, for all her confidence, she's terrified of being rejected, and can't bring herself to say it. So, she rejects before she can be rejected. We talk of William's character growth (of which there is much), but I think her showing up in a scarlet dress (very symbolic, IMO) to a proper policeman's ball (and not a swinging society do) to ask him to take her back is monumental! She set herself up for a major fall, there! Julia's mental state seems to be worse than William's in the earlier seasons as you say she really does have major rejection paranoia. Hopefully studying under Freud helped her with that as she seems to be able to put herself out there more in the later seasons. I think her seeing Dr. Roberts after MiT was big in getting her to begin exploring her shortcomings, and eventually led to her studying with Freud and addressing some of her issues. Julia is now more confident in regards to William, and has learned how to read between the lines with him. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 16:51:32 GMT
She probably would have cut open William if he was in her morgue and that drove her need to find out what happened to him. But perhaps another part of her wanted to avoid that circumstance...? Now that William is getting all "jungle justice" it could be even worse... |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 16:57:02 GMT
Julia's mental state seems to be worse than William's in the earlier seasons as you say she really does have major rejection paranoia. Hopefully studying under Freud helped her with that as she seems to be able to put herself out there more in the later seasons. I'm really hoping there's a flashback of this, but the timing is exactly right, and Freud would be a great "historical figure" to bring into the mix. Maybe he will visit Canada at some point, hahahaha! |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 17:24:49 GMT
She probably would have cut open William if he was in her morgue and that drove her need to find out what happened to him. But perhaps another part of her wanted to avoid that circumstance...? Now that William is getting all "jungle justice" it could be even worse... In the Peter Mitchell interview I listened to yesterday he said Freud never visited Canada and therefore wouldn't be in the show. They only have characters that were in Canada around the time period in the season. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 17:28:01 GMT
I suspect that it wasn't any one thing, but a myriad of things, such as being frustrated that William wasn't making any moves towards a future, career prospects, and possibly even fear at seeing him on the slab all drove her towards that move. During their 'what will happen to us' conversation Julia says "I can't ignore opportunities on the off chance that y...." I'm convinced she was going to say "you propose" but couldn't actually say it to William. If she had I'm sure he'd have proposed the next time he saw her, he does need that time to gather his thoughts. Anyway it's a moot point now and we wouldn't have been in the 8th season if that had happened. I agree the primary driver was Julia was afraid William wouldn't propose - especially once he found out she couldn't have children. But there might have been a lot of other issues roiling about in her subconscious - that's what I'd like to see Freud draw out. Perhaps instead of flashbacks: Freud visits Canada and drops little hints about their sessions that drive William crazy with curiousity! |
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Post by snacky on Oct 29, 2014 17:29:13 GMT
She probably would have cut open William if he was in her morgue and that drove her need to find out what happened to him. But perhaps another part of her wanted to avoid that circumstance...? Now that William is getting all "jungle justice" it could be even worse... In the Peter Mitchell interview I listened to yesterday he said Freud never visited Canada and therefore wouldn't be in the show. They only have characters that were in Canada around the time period in the season. Awwwwwwwwwww.  Did he say anything about Julia being analyzed by Freud while in Vienna? |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 29, 2014 17:36:33 GMT
In the Peter Mitchell interview I listened to yesterday he said Freud never visited Canada and therefore wouldn't be in the show. They only have characters that were in Canada around the time period in the season. Awwwwwwwwwww. Did he say anything about Julia being analyzed by Freud while in Vienna? Maybe Freud could be consulted via telegram or telephone? **is hopeful** But yeah, not likely.  |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 17:41:18 GMT
In the Peter Mitchell interview I listened to yesterday he said Freud never visited Canada and therefore wouldn't be in the show. They only have characters that were in Canada around the time period in the season. Awwwwwwwwwww. Did he say anything about Julia being analyzed by Freud while in Vienna? No, the conversation wasn't specifically about Freud rather the characters and how they decide who to incorporate in the show. Freud was an example of who couldn't be in Toronto at that time, even though they'd love him to be, because he was never in Canada. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Oct 29, 2014 21:00:00 GMT
I think Einstein lived in North America...but not till much much later on in life...so he'll never be a part of the show either. :/ However, he was mentioned in S5's finale in relation to the time machine. It took me like 5 watches to realize this.  |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 29, 2014 21:51:19 GMT
I think Einstein lived in North America...but not till much much later on in life...so he'll never be a part of the show either. :/ However, he was mentioned in S5's finale in relation to the time machine. It took me like 5 watches to realize this. Yes, I picked up on that the second time I saw it, so Einstein studied under Prof. Harms.  |
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