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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 2:18:20 GMT
Whilst 'doing the dogs' I was considering William and the Mayor. William believes his reputation stands for something but it would seem that the Mayor only thinks of him as 'the Catholic detective'. I wonder if he realizes that 'the Catholic detective' is the one that saved his life and the city. If he does then it's obvious that William's reputation actually stands for nothing. Very sad for the Greatest Detective in the King's Realm. And did this realization gut Brackenreid, who responded in a heavy-handed manner to save William. TBH, if someone I was close to was being disrespected like that, I'd be depressed too. I want to hit and hug Brax at the same time. That just sucks. I will wish you best regards anyway! Getting one year older should be viewed as an accomplishment. As for the paper, think of the end game. That bubbly and your imagination waits!!
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 3, 2014 2:22:42 GMT
Observation: After watching the episode again, I think one of the reasons Emily was so bittier, was the fact that she idolizes Julia, and in a way her idol disappointed her and let her down.
Another point, the unmarried Julia with only her reputation at stake would have run hands down, but both Brackenreid and (Murdoch-in a way) pointed out that what they do effects the reputaion of the other, and Julia realized this, and I dont think she was willing to stake his reputation as well as her own. That thing I mentioned eariler of society seeing them as one. Anyway i think im going over well trodden ground now.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 2:23:07 GMT
The angst-o-rama meter just burst!! Oh dear - do we need to call in a trauma crew for you? Getting close! I seem to be fine with the episodes...it's all the speculation that's killing me, lol!
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 3, 2014 2:30:43 GMT
We also need to give Miss Moss some credit for not balking at Emily holding a human heart.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 2:31:36 GMT
Oh dear - do we need to call in a trauma crew for you? Getting close! I seem to be fine with the episodes...it's all the speculation that's killing me, lol! See what speculation gets you!!
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 3, 2014 2:34:20 GMT
Oh dear - do we need to call in a trauma crew for you? Getting close! I seem to be fine with the episodes...it's all the speculation that's killing me, lol! I try and not speculate to far ahead. I've learnt that one. AKA: season 4
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 2:43:00 GMT
Observation: After watching the episode again, I think one of the reasons Emily was so bittier, was the fact that she idolizes Julia, and in a way her idol disappointed her and let her down. Another point, the unmarried Julia with only her reputation at stake would have run hands down, but both Brackenreid and (Murdoch-in a way) pointed out that what they do effects the reputaion of the other, and Julia realized this, and I dont think she was willing to stake his reputation as well as her own. That thing I mentioned eariler of society seeing them as one. Anyway i think im going over well trodden ground now. I've been thinking about this a fair bit. Julia backed down from her stance on women's reproductive rights when Darcy made a fuss. She gave in to her man's ambitions and needs at the time. In some respects she's done the same thing for William, only at Brax's behest. William is still with her 100% (awww, love it!) but she is backing down again for the sake of her man. I understand Emily's frustration...STICK WITH THE PROGRAM WOMAN!! This is another instance of Julia making a unilateral decision that affects both of them, without reaching a consensus with William! She's protecting him even though he has agreed to deal with whatever repercussions come his way. Talk about emasculating our hero! Grrrrr. I am probably going over 'well trodden ground' as well, but you crazy people have posted over 8 pages in less than 24 hours so there is no hope of keeping up!!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 3, 2014 2:44:22 GMT
Observation: After watching the episode again, I think one of the reasons Emily was so bittier, was the fact that she idolizes Julia, and in a way her idol disappointed her and let her down. Another point, the unmarried Julia with only her reputation at stake would have run hands down, but both Brackenreid and (Murdoch-in a way) pointed out that what they do effects the reputaion of the other, and Julia realized this, and I dont think she was willing to stake his reputation as well as her own. That thing I mentioned eariler of society seeing them as one. Anyway i think im going over well trodden ground now. She's just reminded of the last time they had a scandalous scheme together and Julia suddenly backed out. Hence her comment, "Let me guess, the detective does not approve." The real reason Emily didn't get married to Jerome was cuz she didn't want to be bossed around...and he probably wouldn't have approved of her cutting up dead naked men all day.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 2:45:40 GMT
And did this realization gut Brackenreid, who responded in a heavy-handed manner to save William. TBH, if someone I was close to was being disrespected like that, I'd be depressed too. I want to hit and hug Brax at the same time. That just sucks. I will wish you best regards anyway! Getting one year older should be viewed as an accomplishment. As for the paper, think of the end game. That bubbly and your imagination waits!! Huh? Whadimiss???
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 2:50:59 GMT
I've been thinking about this a fair bit. Julia backed down from her stance on women's reproductive rights when Darcy made a fuss. She gave in to her man's ambitions and needs at the time. In some respects she's done the same thing for William, only at Brax's behest. William is still with her 100% (awww, love it!) but she is backing down again for the sake of her man. I understand Emily's frustration...STICK WITH THE PROGRAM WOMAN!! This is another instance of Julia making a unilateral decision that affects both of them, without reaching a consensus with William! She's protecting him even though he has agreed to deal with whatever repercussions come his way. Talk about emasculating our hero! Grrrrr. I am probably going over 'well trodden ground' as well, but you crazy people have posted over 8 pages in less than 24 hours so there is no hope of keeping up!! I'm not sure Julia's emasculated William. Yes he was prepared to face up to the consequences of her decision but I see her pulling out as a gesture of respect for his situation. Remember she wasn't anticipating being the candidate in the first place and I wonder if ulitimately she really wasn't that bothered about running however she was quite prepared to support whoever did run.
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 3, 2014 2:52:34 GMT
I will wish you best regards anyway! Getting one year older should be viewed as an accomplishment. As for the paper, think of the end game. That bubbly and your imagination waits!! Huh? Whadimiss??? About three pages of determining where peoples birthdays fell.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 2:54:07 GMT
Observation: After watching the episode again, I think one of the reasons Emily was so bittier, was the fact that she idolizes Julia, and in a way her idol disappointed her and let her down. Another point, the unmarried Julia with only her reputation at stake would have run hands down, but both Brackenreid and (Murdoch-in a way) pointed out that what they do effects the reputaion of the other, and Julia realized this, and I dont think she was willing to stake his reputation as well as her own. That thing I mentioned eariler of society seeing them as one. Anyway i think im going over well trodden ground now. She's just reminded of the last time they had a scandalous scheme together and Julia suddenly backed out. Hence her comment, "Let me guess, the detective does not approve." The real reason Emily didn't get married to Jerome was cuz she didn't want to be bossed around...and he probably wouldn't have approved of her cutting up dead naked men all day. I am happily projecting Emily's foray into the world of saphism with Lillian Moss which predisposes her to hate most prejudical-male-chest-thumping stereotypes. Even though Emily likes and respects William and a detective, she can still have issues with how he represses her 'hero', Julia, as a husband. This is twice in a row that Julia has let Emily down her commitment to a cause. That can put even a heroine on thin ice with her protege.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 3:18:49 GMT
I've been thinking about this a fair bit. Julia backed down from her stance on women's reproductive rights when Darcy made a fuss. She gave in to her man's ambitions and needs at the time. In some respects she's done the same thing for William, only at Brax's behest. William is still with her 100% (awww, love it!) but she is backing down again for the sake of her man. I understand Emily's frustration...STICK WITH THE PROGRAM WOMAN!! This is another instance of Julia making a unilateral decision that affects both of them, without reaching a consensus with William! She's protecting him even though he has agreed to deal with whatever repercussions come his way. Talk about emasculating our hero! Grrrrr. I am probably going over 'well trodden ground' as well, but you crazy people have posted over 8 pages in less than 24 hours so there is no hope of keeping up!! I'm not sure Julia's emasculated William. Yes he was prepared to face up to the consequences of her decision but I see her pulling out as a gesture of respect for his situation. Remember she wasn't anticipating being the candidate in the first place and I wonder if ulitimately she really wasn't that bothered about running however she was quite prepared to support whoever did run. I wouldn't characterize it as emasculating William either. I understand the dynamics of he-supports-her/she-supports-him in this VERY modern marriage. My point is more that she decided to withdraw without discussing it further with William. I actually think Julia's reasons for withdrawing have some merit. It's not like she has shied away from controversy before. I think what intrigues me is her selflessness in favour of the consequences to William's career. She has no fear whatsoever about her own status but I this she is very aware of, and concerned with, his.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 3, 2014 3:20:49 GMT
About three pages of determining where peoples birthdays fell. Oh, right. So HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY to CC, barbarama and Fallenbelle!
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 3:53:01 GMT
I'm not sure Julia's emasculated William. Yes he was prepared to face up to the consequences of her decision but I see her pulling out as a gesture of respect for his situation. Remember she wasn't anticipating being the candidate in the first place and I wonder if ulitimately she really wasn't that bothered about running however she was quite prepared to support whoever did run. I wouldn't characterize it as emasculating William either. I understand the dynamics of he-supports-her/she-supports-him in this VERY modern marriage. My point is more that she decided to withdraw without discussing it further with William. I actually think Julia's reasons for withdrawing have some merit. It's not like she has shied away from controversy before. I think what intrigues me is her selflessness in favour of the consequences to William's career. She has no fear whatsoever about her own status but I this she is very aware of, and concerned with, his. Perhaps because all William has ever really had is his career and she doesn't want to be the one to put an end to it. I know he doesn't need it now to live but I'm sure she would rather he not be fired.
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