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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:10:08 GMT
Just rewatched the scene between Brax and the mayor-Brax does separate Julia and William when he defends William to the mayor-before the mayor makes it clear that William is expected to control his wife. Yeah, Brax was a jerk in how he did it, but he was still coming from a place of concern for William. Wow - colossal ingratitude from the mayor! Next time he's tied to a bomb, William should be busy elsewhere.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 6:10:38 GMT
Dr. Rico who was part of the terrific episode "Murdoch au Naturel Now regarding Brackenreid, I'm sure he meant well in his "advices" to William & Julia however he went too far imo. First it is not of his business what's going on with their marriage unless (and even then) if it interferes directly with Station 4 (which is not the case as it would concern primarily William) and second he was really insulting, his stubbornness to want to keep things the way they used to be is a stark contrast to William & Julia's progressiveness Oooh - I love it when MM makes use of past characters- it gives depth to the whole series. Brackenreid regards William as something like a son - he can't help but give (bad) advice!  Funny you should say that. It's William who tells Julia that Brax's acting like a father figure because she asked him to give her away. |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 6:12:29 GMT
Brax/Julia's relationship confounds me a bit, TBH. I don't know if he likes her all that much, or if she likes him for that matter either, but they have a love for William in common, so maybe they work it out for the most part. And no, Snacky, I'm not talking a slash kind of love, so before you go there... Mr. B is a chauvinist, but rewatching that scene, I think even he was taken aback by the mayor's statement-but goes about solving the problem in the typically chauvinist manner he knows best. Mind you, I'm not condoning what he did, but I think it's more complicated than him being just a chauvinist. It makes sense that he does get his henpecked rage out on Julia-she's a safe target-and William is her achilles heel. She's safe in that she's the wife of his subordinate, and not his own wife-who could make his life a living hell. Still, I'd like to see Mrs. B give him his comeuppance.  Totally agreed about the mayor...what a douche. The mystery didn't leave me spellbound either, but they can't all be like last week. This week was all about character development-which results in episodes like the one we had last week! I agree I find their relationship confounding too. In GC when she comes to tell him about the doctor that did the autopsy on Iyote, he's very offhand with her as if he doesn't take her seriously. I'm thinking he still has some of that attitude towards her however he has toned it down over time. Julia does go off half cocked at times and I think this is what gets to him, he did say be realistic for once and to be honest I think he was right. I did note that he tried to distinguish William from Julia with the mayor but at the same time the mayor was right, what she does reflects on her husband. She never took into consideration what effect standing for office would have on William's career. Whilst we may think it wrong that's the way it was at the time and Mr. B was right, in the eyes of the law she belonged to William regardless of what either of them thought. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:14:11 GMT
Waiting for angst to end the year with. It's inevitable! Angst is inevitable? Woo hoo!  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:15:37 GMT
Also, Happy Birthday!!  Thank you that's very sweet counting the new wrinkles and white hair now Aw, lol! +1 Happy Birthday! |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 6:16:06 GMT
Random collections of my thoughts: Wow...room 206! Wasn't that W/J's room on their wedding night? That room's seen plenty of action-in more ways than one! It was a different hotel, perhaps the Queen's Hotel...? The door opened in the opposite direction. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 6:16:49 GMT
Oooh - I love it when MM makes use of past characters- it gives depth to the whole series. Brackenreid regards William as something like a son - he can't help but give (bad) advice! Funny you should say that. It's William who tells Julia that Brax's acting like a father figure because she asked him to give her away. Clueless boy should know that Brax considered himself William's de facto papa long ago-now that they're married, that advice extends to Julia too. Julia asking him to give her away was just a recognition of that fact. A gesture I'm sure she regrets now since Brax thinks he's her de facto dad now too-all the more so since he transferred control from one man to another-the origin of that gesture. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 6:19:22 GMT
Random collections of my thoughts: Wow...room 206! Wasn't that W/J's room on their wedding night? That room's seen plenty of action-in more ways than one! It was a different hotel, perhaps the Queen's Hotel...? The door opened in the opposite direction. Yeah wouldn't they have gotten the honeymoon suite and not some random room? Pretty sure even the QH had more than two floors though. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 6:22:48 GMT
This ep wasn't nearly as pervy as I was expecting (sorry Barbarama) so before I go to bed I leave you with this parting gift from William:
"How did your fingermarks get on Longfellow's device?"
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:23:28 GMT
I wasn't really surprised by Mr. B's comments to her, he's a bit of a chauvinist even if he is henpecked, guess he has to stand up to a woman somehow so he chooses Julia?? It's not the first time he's had a run in with her though, I'm not sure he likes her on the quiet. It seems she didn't think through the consequences of her actions before proceeding or she didn't think the establishment would take it out on her husband, a little naive if you ask me. I was a bit taken aback when the mayor said it was illegal for a woman to run for office, if it's not the letter it's the intent?? If the intent was to bar a woman from running then it should have said that. Was a little upset by his view of William too, so he's just the Catholic even after saving his life. I hope William doesn't come running next time. Brackenreid had a bit of a wrangle over women's progress with Emily as well. But if you think about it, he also probably had a hand in hiring Julia - and he probably had to approve Emily as well. So he is someone who can look past his own generalizations about women and see the value and qualifications of specific people. But once he allows women into his "man's world", he doesn't want them to upset the status quo - which just makes him regret "letting them in" in the first place. Regarding the mayor - WHAT A DICK!!!!  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 6:24:23 GMT
This ep wasn't nearly as pervy as I was expecting (sorry Barbarama) so before I go to bed I leave you with this parting gift from William: "How did your fingermarks get on Longfellow's device?" Before you're off to be let me wish you a happy birthday before it's over, though I guess technically it already is.... |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:25:03 GMT
Five minutes into Xena and I'm crying. This is amazingly bad!! It's awesome!! LOL!!! Hey, it was good sometimes, too. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:31:24 GMT
And no, Snacky, I'm not talking a slash kind of love, so before you go there... Mr. B is a chauvinist, but rewatching that scene, I think even he was taken aback by the mayor's statement-but goes about solving the problem in the typically chauvinist manner he knows best. Mind you, I'm not condoning what he did, but I think it's more complicated than him being just a chauvinist. It makes sense that he does get his henpecked rage out on Julia-she's a safe target-and William is her achilles heel. She's safe in that she's the wife of his subordinate, and not his own wife-who could make his life a living hell. Still, I'd like to see Mrs. B give him his comeuppance. LOL - I would never slash Mr. B and William! Mr. B is like his father, that would be incest! Love your analysis of why Mr. B feels at liberty to be more of a chauvinist around Julia. In this scenario, he's probably more able to bully Julia now that she's married to William than he was when she was an independent female coroner.  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 6:31:30 GMT
Brackenreid had a bit of a wrangle over women's progress with Emily as well. But if you think about it, he also probably had a hand in hiring Julia - and he probably had to approve Emily as well. So he is someone who can look past his own generalizations about women and see the value and qualifications of specific people. But once he allows women into his "man's world", he doesn't want them to upset the status quo - which just makes him regret "letting them in" in the first place. Regarding the mayor - WHAT A DICK!!!! I think over the years Mr. B has come to terms with women in the morgue and Julia in particular as she's helped with many cases but he's still not entirely comfortable with them. Perhaps because Margaret keeps him on his toes and I'm not sure he really knows how to deal with strong women. He also puts up with Julia because of William, when Julia's in his life William does good work. I agree re the mayor. William saves the city then saves his life and he still can't see the man behind the faith. He doesn't deserve him. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:33:36 GMT
206 = Shades of Grey. Hmmm.... Ouch! And/or good point...? Lets keep thinking about it... |
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