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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 4:50:59 GMT
So far I'm not so late reading your comments that I have 12 pages to catch up on  I really liked this episode, a necessary tension's reliever after what we saw last week (and just for the fact that Julia is back with a lot of interesting and conflicted scenes I give it 2 thumbs up). The case was very solid indeed because I couldn't figure out who did it until the 37min or so when they talked about the suicide of Gorgio and I screamed "It's the father!!!". What is it with the show lately finding murderers in loving and interesting characters (first Hodge last week and this episode Dr. Rico who was part of the terrific episode "Murdoch au Naturel"). The invention itself was titillating for sure but what got me to laugh away was George's idea of "Electric Hair", this one is a keeper for sure!!! Now regarding Brackenreid, I'm sure he meant well in his "advices" to William & Julia however he went too far imo. First it is not of his business what's going on with their marriage unless (and even then) if it interferes directly with Station 4 (which is not the case as it would concern primarily William) and second he was really insulting, his stubbornness to want to keep things the way they used to be is a stark contrast to William & Julia's progressiveness (I actually wonder what William will think about Julia dropping out her candidacy, I hope it will be at least mentioned and hopefully dealt with in next week's episode). And as Fallenbelle mentioned it is rich for Brackenreid to advise William on "wearing the pants" when we all know who does that in his marriage  Overall good episode I very much enjoyed it!!! OMG! I didn't catch that he was from MAN. Good eye! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 4:57:22 GMT
Longfellow had a key for 209 in his pocket-I'm assuming that was his room? But kinda freaky that he was gonna get it on in another man's hotel room... He also tipped the clerk to look the other way, so he couldn't have been that cheap...maybe he didn't like prostitutes, or liked the challenge of getting it for free! But did he get Edison drunk and lift the key? Maybe the girl gave him the money to tip the clerk? She did after all want to make sure her family could frame Edison. Well, the other inventor guy said he took him out to drink...but I suppose Longfellow could have taken it then...or the girl did. Why was the machine in Edison's room again? I was wondering why it was in his room as well...maybe Edison Jr. was getting freaky with it as well? Is this the same chair from Invention Convention? Just rewatched the scene between Brax and the mayor-Brax does separate Julia and William when he defends William to the mayor-before the mayor makes it clear that William is expected to control his wife. Yeah, Brax was a jerk in how he did it, but he was still coming from a place of concern for William. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 5:00:20 GMT
So far I'm not so late reading your comments that I have 12 pages to catch up on I really liked this episode, a necessary tension's reliever after what we saw last week (and just for the fact that Julia is back with a lot of interesting and conflicted scenes I give it 2 thumbs up). The case was very solid indeed because I couldn't figure out who did it until the 37min or so when they talked about the suicide of Gorgio and I screamed "It's the father!!!". What is it with the show lately finding murderers in loving and interesting characters (first Hodge last week and this episode Dr. Rico who was part of the terrific episode "Murdoch au Naturel"). The invention itself was titillating for sure but what got me to laugh away was George's idea of "Electric Hair", this one is a keeper for sure!!! Now regarding Brackenreid, I'm sure he meant well in his "advices" to William & Julia however he went too far imo. First it is not of his business what's going on with their marriage unless (and even then) if it interferes directly with Station 4 (which is not the case as it would concern primarily William) and second he was really insulting, his stubbornness to want to keep things the way they used to be is a stark contrast to William & Julia's progressiveness (I actually wonder what William will think about Julia dropping out her candidacy, I hope it will be at least mentioned and hopefully dealt with in next week's episode). And as Fallenbelle mentioned it is rich for Brackenreid to advise William on "wearing the pants" when we all know who does that in his marriage Overall good episode I very much enjoyed it!!! When they talked about the electrical marvel of the hand I started to get suspicious of him and when he turned out to be the father of the girl I knew for sure, but I wasn't sure of the motive. I thought maybe Longfellow had taken advantage of his daughter in the past and had simply forgotten. Didn't see the whole suicide thing coming. I guess they're just trying to show that everyone is capable of murder given the right circumstances...or it's playing to their tagline of 'everyone has a secret'. I think they got rid of Rico because otherwise the bionic man would have been invented waaaay too soon. Electric Hair + Automatic Lights = Laziness Level Expert, ergo he's going to make a fortune. First time I've wanted to slap Brax in awhile. The last was probably Victor Victorian. Murdoch's too big a man to point that out to him...also Brax is the boss. Waiting for angst to end the year with. It's inevitable! Also, Happy Birthday!!  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 5:03:33 GMT
Have to admit I wasn't sure what to think of this episode, guess I haven't got over the last one yet and it will take quite the storyline to surpass that. I was surprised that Julia opted out of the campaign so quickly but I suppose best to do it before it really gets off the ground. I wasn't really surprised by Mr. B's comments to her, he's a bit of a chauvinist even if he is henpecked, guess he has to stand up to a woman somehow so he chooses Julia?? It's not the first time he's had a run in with her though, I'm not sure he likes her on the quiet. It seems she didn't think through the consequences of her actions before proceeding or she didn't think the establishment would take it out on her husband, a little naive if you ask me. I was a bit taken aback when the mayor said it was illegal for a woman to run for office, if it's not the letter it's the intent?? If the intent was to bar a woman from running then it should have said that. Was a little upset by his view of William too, so he's just the Catholic even after saving his life. I hope William doesn't come running next time. The other storyline didn't do much for me....
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 5:06:05 GMT
Maybe the girl gave him the money to tip the clerk? She did after all want to make sure her family could frame Edison. Well, the other inventor guy said he took him out to drink...but I suppose Longfellow could have taken it then...or the girl did. Why was the machine in Edison's room again? I was wondering why it was in his room as well...maybe Edison Jr. was getting freaky with it as well? Is this the same chair from Invention Convention? Just rewatched the scene between Brax and the mayor-Brax does separate Julia and William when he defends William to the mayor-before the mayor makes it clear that William is expected to control his wife. Yeah, Brax was a jerk in how he did it, but he was still coming from a place of concern for William. I'm recalling something about 'juicing' it up a bit. But I don't know why Edison Jr. would have suggested this seeing as he didn't even know the basics of electricity! What chair in IC? I don't remember there being one. Yeah I know but I still wanna slap him. |
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Post by barbarama on Dec 2, 2014 5:17:19 GMT
I guess they're just trying to show that everyone is capable of murder given the right circumstances...or it's playing to their tagline of 'everyone has a secret'. I think they got rid of Rico because otherwise the bionic man would have been invented waaaay too soon. Electric Hair + Automatic Lights = Laziness Level Expert, ergo he's going to make a fortune. First time I've wanted to slap Brax in awhile. The last was probably Victor Victorian. Murdoch's too big a man to point that out to him...also Brax is the boss. Waiting for angst to end the year with. It's inevitable! Also, Happy Birthday!! That could be one of their thing indeed, "everyone is capable of murder".. Brackenreid has always been the more conservative type but even if he means well, he was way over the line talking to them the way he did!! Thank you that's very sweet counting the new wrinkles and white hair now  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 5:27:31 GMT
Five minutes into Xena and I'm crying. This is amazingly bad!! It's awesome!!
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 5:47:19 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers. My daughter was a big fan of Xena, when she was about 6 years old! I used to watch it with her, and found that the relationship between Xena and Gabriel was warm and loving, but not overtly physical. I can see how many would construe it as lesbian, however, but we, in our innocence, did not catch it. It was a fun show. The kid used to like jumping off the couch and yelling like Xena. Girl power!! I remember how cool it was when the US Secretary of State, Madelaine Albright, said her hero was Xena, lol. Lesbian or not, it was great just to have a show that presented dedicated female "buddy" friendship. Not so many shows do that. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 5:49:55 GMT
Re: Xena - I think it might have been expressed on the show but not depicted in an explicit way. It aired early in the evening. Same "viewing constraints" as MM. If there is a built-in audience waiting for the next lesbian couple, MM might be fishing for it. How do such things get around? Yeah some of those gifs made me look twice...  I agree, that one is suggestive! Can't imagine Lillian and Emily going there!  |
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Post by barbarama on Dec 2, 2014 5:55:21 GMT
OMG! I didn't catch that he was from MAN. Good eye! Well I did watch this particular episode over and over again |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 5:56:36 GMT
Have to admit I wasn't sure what to think of this episode, guess I haven't got over the last one yet and it will take quite the storyline to surpass that. I was surprised that Julia opted out of the campaign so quickly but I suppose best to do it before it really gets off the ground. I wasn't really surprised by Mr. B's comments to her, he's a bit of a chauvinist even if he is henpecked, guess he has to stand up to a woman somehow so he chooses Julia?? It's not the first time he's had a run in with her though, I'm not sure he likes her on the quiet. It seems she didn't think through the consequences of her actions before proceeding or she didn't think the establishment would take it out on her husband, a little naive if you ask me. I was a bit taken aback when the mayor said it was illegal for a woman to run for office, if it's not the letter it's the intent?? If the intent was to bar a woman from running then it should have said that. Was a little upset by his view of William too, so he's just the Catholic even after saving his life. I hope William doesn't come running next time. The other storyline didn't do much for me.... Brax/Julia's relationship confounds me a bit, TBH. I don't know if he likes her all that much, or if she likes him for that matter either, but they have a love for William in common, so maybe they work it out for the most part. And no, Snacky, I'm not talking a slash kind of love, so before you go there... Mr. B is a chauvinist, but rewatching that scene, I think even he was taken aback by the mayor's statement-but goes about solving the problem in the typically chauvinist manner he knows best. Mind you, I'm not condoning what he did, but I think it's more complicated than him being just a chauvinist. It makes sense that he does get his henpecked rage out on Julia-she's a safe target-and William is her achilles heel. She's safe in that she's the wife of his subordinate, and not his own wife-who could make his life a living hell. Still, I'd like to see Mrs. B give him his comeuppance. Totally agreed about the mayor...what a douche. The mystery didn't leave me spellbound either, but they can't all be like last week. This week was all about character development-which results in episodes like the one we had last week! |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:01:03 GMT
Random collections of my thoughts: Wow...room 206! Wasn't that W/J's room on their wedding night? That room's seen plenty of action-in more ways than one! Ouch, so Brax views Julia as William's property now? And he has less than favorable views on women's rights? And this is the man married to Margaret? Such delicious contradictions!. Love William's speech about their modern marriage, "Let's not let society constrain us, Julia. We're a modern couple, living in a modern world." It almost makes up for the marginalization of her character. Love how William almost exactly parrots back very similar words as the Inspector, but with a different sentiment. "We're husband and wife. We stand together no matter what comes our way" but with a positive sentiment. Nice work, MM writers. William seems to have already considered the consequences of her run and is okay with it. He knows who he married! However much it sucks that this became the reason for Julia dropping out, I like this detail-it's a very accurate sentiment for the period. As much as Brax was being a jerk, he was still acting out of a place of concern for William. Still, Brax-insulting his manhood? "You're the husband-what you say goes. Wear the trousers for once, man." That's rich considering how your wife owns you! Can we see Mrs. B become a suffragette now, please?The repeat of the room number makes me ask whether the number 206 has special meaning to the MM writers and whether we should be looking for it throughout the series...? Sounds like Brackenreid needs a little righteous putting in his place by Margaret! I'm sure it's coming soon!  lol about Margaret owning Brackenreid - true! Hope to see it tonight, but not much hope given the fact it hasn't been up the same evening since the wedding...  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 6:02:04 GMT
I was wondering why it was in his room as well...maybe Edison Jr. was getting freaky with it as well? Is this the same chair from Invention Convention? Just rewatched the scene between Brax and the mayor-Brax does separate Julia and William when he defends William to the mayor-before the mayor makes it clear that William is expected to control his wife. Yeah, Brax was a jerk in how he did it, but he was still coming from a place of concern for William. I'm recalling something about 'juicing' it up a bit. But I don't know why Edison Jr. would have suggested this seeing as he didn't even know the basics of electricity! What chair in IC? I don't remember there being one. Yeah I know but I still wanna slap him. Watching it again-Rico and murdered dude (can't remember his name) went out drinking with Edison. They don't clarify which Rico it was however, it could have been the daughter or the father. But that doesn't explain why the chair was in Edison's room. There's a scene in IC-almost a throwaway background scene where a lady is quite enjoying herself. I think it was a chair, but I guess I'm going to have to watch it again and know for sure.  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 6:06:44 GMT
Dr. Rico who was part of the terrific episode "Murdoch au Naturel Now regarding Brackenreid, I'm sure he meant well in his "advices" to William & Julia however he went too far imo. First it is not of his business what's going on with their marriage unless (and even then) if it interferes directly with Station 4 (which is not the case as it would concern primarily William) and second he was really insulting, his stubbornness to want to keep things the way they used to be is a stark contrast to William & Julia's progressiveness Oooh - I love it when MM makes use of past characters- it gives depth to the whole series. Brackenreid regards William as something like a son - he can't help but give (bad) advice!  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 6:09:02 GMT
Random collections of my thoughts: Wow...room 206! Wasn't that W/J's room on their wedding night? That room's seen plenty of action-in more ways than one! Ouch, so Brax views Julia as William's property now? And he has less than favorable views on women's rights? And this is the man married to Margaret? Such delicious contradictions!. Love William's speech about their modern marriage, "Let's not let society constrain us, Julia. We're a modern couple, living in a modern world." It almost makes up for the marginalization of her character. Love how William almost exactly parrots back very similar words as the Inspector, but with a different sentiment. "We're husband and wife. We stand together no matter what comes our way" but with a positive sentiment. Nice work, MM writers. William seems to have already considered the consequences of her run and is okay with it. He knows who he married! However much it sucks that this became the reason for Julia dropping out, I like this detail-it's a very accurate sentiment for the period. As much as Brax was being a jerk, he was still acting out of a place of concern for William. Still, Brax-insulting his manhood? "You're the husband-what you say goes. Wear the trousers for once, man." That's rich considering how your wife owns you! Can we see Mrs. B become a suffragette now, please?The repeat of the room number makes me ask whether the number 206 has special meaning to the MM writers and whether we should be looking for it throughout the series...? Sounds like Brackenreid needs a little righteous putting in his place by Margaret! I'm sure it's coming soon! lol about Margaret owning Brackenreid - true! Hope to see it tonight, but not much hope given the fact it hasn't been up the same evening since the wedding... 206 = Shades of Grey. Hmmm.... |
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