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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 17:27:50 GMT
That said, this softer, gentle Julia seems to be giving off signs of fertility as well-I noticed that she's just seemed a bit rounder in various episodes, and others here have picked up on other cues. I don't know if that's deliberate or not, but it shall be interesting to see if it is. Although I don't hope it is. No Cousin Oliver please! Although this is the second time 206 has popped up in the season-I'm like Snacky-I'm starting to think that has significance-such as episode 206-an episode that dealt with Julia's abortion. Might it be that someone threatened to expose it-ruining her and William? Sorry DeskSgtHodge-I know how you hate speculation. Can I just say that I loved George the Man in this ep? I don't know that I'm hard core into Edna, but I really like who George is with Edna and Simon. I'm wondering if they're setting up for pregnant Julia either later in this season or next season. Too many hints have been dropped about a S9 to think it's going to end and why would CBC drop their most popular programme? However I think a kid would ruin the programme so I'm hoping for problems and no baby. Though we do have canon in ROD for a child at some point. I'll repeat my first thought on this, I'm fine with a baby as long as it's in the final 2 minutes of the final episode of the series however I don't want that to happen any time soon. Perhaps it will come to a natural end in the tenth season.... Hope not though! I do hate speculation but I can take some, just not all speculation all the time. I do it myself sometimes, see above paragraph! I'm liking Edna and George more and more and even the kid isn't so bad as long as we don't see too much of him.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 17:31:08 GMT
After all he's done, would they really fire him? Would they be that stupid? And, is this the last we've heard of this? I don't think they would have actually fired him. But politicians are notoriously dumb. I feel like it isn't. I feel like Julia rolled over too soon-I was thinking this arc was going to play out for another episode or two before she decides not to run. IDK I feel like there was this big build up and then it just kind of fizzled. Here's more speculation on my part but perhaps William persuades her not to stand down. Now I'll go and self flagelate.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 17:36:38 GMT
That said, this softer, gentle Julia seems to be giving off signs of fertility as well-I noticed that she's just seemed a bit rounder in various episodes, and others here have picked up on other cues. I don't know if that's deliberate or not, but it shall be interesting to see if it is. Although I don't hope it is. No Cousin Oliver please! Although this is the second time 206 has popped up in the season-I'm like Snacky-I'm starting to think that has significance-such as episode 206-an episode that dealt with Julia's abortion. Might it be that someone threatened to expose it-ruining her and William? Sorry DeskSgtHodge-I know how you hate speculation. Can I just say that I loved George the Man in this ep? I don't know that I'm hard core into Edna, but I really like who George is with Edna and Simon. I'm wondering if they're setting up for pregnant Julia either later in this season or next season. Too many hints have been dropped about a S9 to think it's going to end and why would CBC drop their most popular programme? However I think a kid would ruin the programme so I'm hoping for problems and no baby. Though we do have canon in ROD for a child at some point. I'll repeat my first thought on this, I'm fine with a baby as long as it's in the final 2 minutes of the final episode of the series however I don't want that to happen any time soon. Perhaps it will come to a natural end in the tenth season.... Hope not though! I do hate speculation but I can take some, just not all speculation all the time. I do it myself sometimes, see above paragraph! I'm liking Edna and George more and more and even the kid isn't so bad as long as we don't see too much of him. I don't mind Simon either-I think because he's in small doses and he's not super cute. As long as they stick to that, it'll be good. Agreed about the baby! I'm fine with a baby being born in the last episode of season??? I just think it was interesting that so many of us are picking up on fertility cues. Foreshadowing? I love George the Man! I want to see more of that, please!
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 17:39:09 GMT
I don't think they would have actually fired him. But politicians are notoriously dumb. I feel like it isn't. I feel like Julia rolled over too soon-I was thinking this arc was going to play out for another episode or two before she decides not to run. IDK I feel like there was this big build up and then it just kind of fizzled. Here's more speculation on my part but perhaps William persuades her not to stand down. Now I'll go and self flagelate. I might agree with that, but we already know Margaret Haile is the one who runs for office, so I doubt it! I kinda hope they compromise that she'll find other ways to stick it to the establishment-for both of them. He's got to want to see that to a point-especially how they've been so ungrateful for all of his service.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 17:56:37 GMT
I think Mr. B might have have gotten a little shock himself during that conversation when he partially realized he was talking about himself, and his own fears of what it meant to be pushed around by Margaret. But I do think until that moment he was genuinely trying to give good advice. I think it was interesting he referred to these pressures coming from William's "political masters" when they were more Brackenreid's political masters. Brackenreid is the one in the Masons. Brackenreid is the one with a career. Maybe this Old Boy chat was really about Brackenreid's career and Brackenreid's ability to control William? One of the way men control each other in all-male hierarchies to tell each other to man up or threaten their masculinity in various ways. The Chief Inspector post is open. Excellent point about Brax trying to move up, and how maybe even William might get a promotion out of it. I doubt it, but still...those political masters are still William's too, and they could make his life hell if they wanted. It would be sheer stupidity, but they could do it. Do we know that Brax realized he was talking about himself? I'm not convinced...it's just interesting that just last week he admitted he arrested Margaret and got turned on her attitude and spunk. Then he tells William he's P-whipped? Anyone seen the preview of next week's ep? What kind of show are we looking at? I'm wondering what the difference is in terms of duties, and location, between Inspector and Chief Inspector. Brackenreid has already turned down a Chief Constables job to stay at SH4, if moving up to CI means leaving I don't think he'd want to do that. No matter where Mr. B's career takes him William will never get a promotion, anything above detective isn't up to Mr. B and he's the only one that would promote him. The only thing they have to hold over William is his job and ultimately I don't think he'd want to lose that. He was close to being fired in Tattered and Torn but at that point he'd lost the one thing he loved and didn't care, he only had himself to worry about. Now he has Julia too and although they're wealthy and maybe don't even need to work neither of them could sit at home doing nothing. Though they could open a detective agency.... Let's face it Mr. B has always thought William was a wet rag where Julia is concerned and has always known who would wear the pants if they married. Perhaps he believes he does wear the pants in his marriage, at least when it's necessary, and he certainly believes it's necessary for William in this case. Next week is the vaudeville episode. May be funny with George and Henry going undercover at the music hall.
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 2, 2014 18:21:55 GMT
Excellent point about Brax trying to move up, and how maybe even William might get a promotion out of it. I doubt it, but still...those political masters are still William's too, and they could make his life hell if they wanted. It would be sheer stupidity, but they could do it. Do we know that Brax realized he was talking about himself? I'm not convinced...it's just interesting that just last week he admitted he arrested Margaret and got turned on her attitude and spunk. Then he tells William he's P-whipped? Anyone seen the preview of next week's ep? What kind of show are we looking at? Next week is the vaudeville episode. May be funny with George and Henry going undercover at the music hall. I think that's going to be the last one until January 12th.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 18:26:15 GMT
Excellent point about Brax trying to move up, and how maybe even William might get a promotion out of it. I doubt it, but still...those political masters are still William's too, and they could make his life hell if they wanted. It would be sheer stupidity, but they could do it. Do we know that Brax realized he was talking about himself? I'm not convinced...it's just interesting that just last week he admitted he arrested Margaret and got turned on her attitude and spunk. Then he tells William he's P-whipped? Anyone seen the preview of next week's ep? What kind of show are we looking at? I'm wondering what the difference is in terms of duties, and location, between Inspector and Chief Inspector. Brackenreid has already turned down a Chief Constables job to stay at SH4, if moving up to CI means leaving I don't think he'd want to do that. No matter where Mr. B's career takes him William will never get a promotion, anything above detective isn't up to Mr. B and he's the only one that would promote him. The only thing they have to hold over William is his job and ultimately I don't think he'd want to lose that. He was close to being fired in Tattered and Torn but at that point he'd lost the one thing he loved and didn't care, he only had himself to worry about. Now he has Julia too and although they're wealthy and maybe don't even need to work neither of them could sit at home doing nothing. Though they could open a detective agency.... Let's face it Mr. B has always thought William was a wet rag where Julia is concerned and has always known who would wear the pants if they married. Perhaps he believes he does wear the pants in his marriage, at least when it's necessary, and he certainly believes it's necessary for William in this case. Next week is the vaudeville episode. May be funny with George and Henry going undercover at the music hall. William leaving the constabulary would be a bold move, do you think the show would do it? I don't think so...but I do think it'll be a bumpy ride. Does Julia actually wear the pants? Have we seen anything that says she does? It seems fairly equal so far... W/J may not need the money, but I agree, I don't think they're the types to spend the days solving puzzles and supping at the rowing club. Talk about conversations of little merit. Can't wait to see the preview-cbc.ca doesn't show previews of next week's episodes.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 18:47:21 GMT
Does Julia actually wear the pants? Have we seen anything that says she does? It seems fairly equal so far... I'm not actually sure Julia does wear the pants, it seems that William has stepped up a bit and is taking the initiative. I think Brackenreid believes she does given what he's seen in the past.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 2, 2014 18:51:56 GMT
Whilst 'doing the dogs' I was considering William and the Mayor. William believes his reputation stands for something but it would seem that the Mayor only thinks of him as 'the Catholic detective'. I wonder if he realizes that 'the Catholic detective' is the one that saved his life and the city. If he does then it's obvious that William's reputation actually stands for nothing. Very sad for the Greatest Detective in the King's Realm.
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 19:01:42 GMT
Whilst 'doing the dogs' I was considering William and the Mayor. William believes his reputation stands for something but it would seem that the Mayor only thinks of him as 'the Catholic detective'. I wonder if he realizes that 'the Catholic detective' is the one that saved his life and the city. If he does then it's obvious that William's reputation actually stands for nothing. Very sad for the Greatest Detective in the King's Realm. This might just be the way Big Men talk at the club, too - putting everyone down. It could be the mayor knows perfectly well who William is, but he is puffing himself up by pretending he doesn't know who anyone else is. "The Catholic" could be like "Tommy Two Cakes" - the nickname that stuck.
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 19:04:02 GMT
Does Julia actually wear the pants? Have we seen anything that says she does? It seems fairly equal so far... I'm not actually sure Julia does wear the pants, it seems that William has stepped up a bit and is taking the initiative. I think Brackenreid believes she does given what he's seen in the past. I agree - maybe William's way of "handling" Julia is beating her at her own game. He becomes so enthusiastic for whatever she's doing that she becomes the one having second thoughts, lol.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 19:08:37 GMT
Oh it was finally CC's bday today, too, after all the build up? Happy Birthday, CC! Correct me if I'm wrong, but CC's birthday was last week-The Painting was her B-day present! Barbarama's is/was today? **is confused with time zones** Yeah mine was last week. It's Barbarama's today and yours tomorrow. Yes?
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 19:10:37 GMT
William leaving the constabulary would be a bold move, do you think the show would do it? I don't think so...but I do think it'll be a bumpy ride. Does Julia actually wear the pants? Have we seen anything that says she does? It seems fairly equal so far... W/J may not need the money, but I agree, I don't think they're the types to spend the days solving puzzles and supping at the rowing club. Talk about conversations of little merit. Can't wait to see the preview-cbc.ca doesn't show previews of next week's episodes. I think William would only leave the constabulary if the "family" changed - i.e. if Brackenreid did become chief inspector and/or George left to become a Pinkerton, etc. But how William will advance is a mystery since everyone agrees he wouldn't like dealing with the politics of being a chief inspector. Everyone agrees he would do better as a forensics expert - lecturing, writing, doing private consulting, etc. The answer: A PRIVATE FORENSICS LAB! Run by Julia, of course. What's up with the previews? They used to show previews at the end of the show, but not anymore...
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 19:11:37 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but CC's birthday was last week-The Painting was her B-day present! Barbarama's is/was today? **is confused with time zones** Yeah mine was last week. It's Barbarama's today and yours tomorrow. Yes? HAPPY BIRTHDAY! (Said to CC, Barbarama, and FallenBelle in a "Frosty the Snowman" voice.)
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 19:14:08 GMT
I think I know what you mean: she seems a bit reactive - smiling proudly at William's accomplishments, present to twiddle with his tie. But barely there on her own account. I thought the suffrage campaign might change that, but it sounds like she's not going to be running for office long enough for that to matter. Perhaps the 10% darkness of this season is Julia slowly going mad in her room like The Yellow Wallpaper? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_WallpaperI'm voting again for Julia opening up world's first crime lab instead of sinking into some sort of "hysteria" over her general uselessness... It's not even that. Yes, she is reactive but it's more in the way the character's portrayed than in what she does. I'm not sure if it's the way she's being written or the way Helene's portraying her but there's something not right. As I said to Fallenbelle if a character doesn't ring true in fanfic I can't read it. Julia's not ringing true this season and it's disturbing and distracting. I haven't really noticed much difference myself. I mean she's more content than she used to be...with good reason, but nothing else has really jumped out at me as being terribly off. She's been much more 'timid' since like S5 and her marriage to Darcy. But perhaps Helene's in love herself and that's somehow softened her acting ability?
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