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Post by Brackenfan on Dec 9, 2014 22:17:58 GMT
There is a podcast post about Murdoch on a site called TV-eh
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Post by Hodge on Dec 9, 2014 23:20:31 GMT
Aw - the poor guy couldn't act either.   Also didn't Inspector B recently get tripped up when William unexpectedly made a joke...?  703 bothers me because we know from S5 that he CAN in fact act quite convincingly! I thought Anna really was dead the first time I saw it because of his reaction. Julia knew he was pretending too...so her laughing at him in 703 really bothers me. But I suppose as is the case with this ep, it's more delivery of lines that he's bad at. Showing emotions is his forte, ironically. In 703 it wasn't that he couldn't act, he was doing/not doing things that were/n't in the script and antagonizing Pendrick who was on a tight budget. He said he couldn't stand the inconsistencies. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 10, 2014 0:00:56 GMT
703 bothers me because we know from S5 that he CAN in fact act quite convincingly! I thought Anna really was dead the first time I saw it because of his reaction. Julia knew he was pretending too...so her laughing at him in 703 really bothers me. But I suppose as is the case with this ep, it's more delivery of lines that he's bad at. Showing emotions is his forte, ironically. In 703 it wasn't that he couldn't act, he was doing/not doing things that were/n't in the script and antagonizing Pendrick who was on a tight budget. He said he couldn't stand the inconsistencies. It bothers me because Julia laughs at him because she apparently thinks he has zero acting ability. But she knows the truth about Anna and that whole setup so it's like it didn't happen at all. I get that 703 was just meant to be funny but I don't like this inconsistency, which makes me just like Murdoch I guess.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 10, 2014 0:10:26 GMT
Okay so if the ending whoopee cushion scene was unscripted, when exactly WAS it supposed to have been used?
Did they film that scene first and then when everyone loved it so much, went back and wrote Murdoch making it?
Cuz otherwise I don’t get it.
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Post by lovemondays on Dec 10, 2014 0:35:25 GMT
Okay so if the ending whoopee cushion scene was unscripted, when exactly WAS it supposed to have been used? Did they film that scene first and then when everyone loved it so much, went back and wrote Murdoch making it? Cuz otherwise I don’t get it. I'm with you there. |
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Post by carco on Dec 10, 2014 1:23:46 GMT
That's a great point about William having to meticulously plan his spontaneity-poor William! But, he wanted to make Julia laugh, which was so sweet! That's what I think was hilarious, he's planning it for days because his jokes' deliveries and his comedic timing are non existent so he wants to make sure that this prank works like his inventions…to perfection…and one of the funny thing about comedy is the immediate reaction to a situation so seeing William mapping out his joke so carefully was hysterical to watch. The Gedna scene was hot! Beautifully shot, beautifully done. I liked it, and I remember when W/J used to have scenes like that. I guess Gedna's the new focus, and if it's hot like the final scene was tonight, I guess I'm okay with it. But, I miss hot William/Julia.  I agree we need to have William & Julia in the same kind of scenes, they are very cute together especially playing jokes on each other but they can be very very steamy as well  I loved the last few minutes with William and Julia. It came as no surprise for me, then, to hear that the writer's last Murdoch episode was Tour de Murdoch, which ended with William teasing Julia that Leslie was, indeed, too young for her. From now on whenever I see Jordan is the writer I will be looking for/hoping for a funny Jilliam ending.  |
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Post by carco on Dec 10, 2014 1:38:43 GMT
I agree we need to have William & Julia in the same kind of scenes, they are very cute together especially playing jokes on each other but they can be very very steamy as well Wow - so maybe I was wrong about MM being able to support only one central ship. I must see this scene with hot Gedna! I agree with barbarama in that I'm missing hot Jilliam. They're obviously happy and both are thriving in their marriage and that's great but now we're no longer the fly on the wall -- even for the kisses.  But I did love the Gedna kiss and the scene itself was nicely filmed. And yes, it was very reminiscent of William and Julia's scene's from last season. The situation with Edna is very similar to Enid's situation and I guess after the Boer War there would have been many young widows in town. But George is nothing like William...in the same situation. I think George is a bit more confident in himself (whether that is misplaced or not doesn't really matter----he'll make mistakes and learn from them). It might be interesting to see if the similarities soon end. Looks like George is already going to be way ahead of William in getting to "home base"!! |
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Post by carco on Dec 10, 2014 1:57:58 GMT
Okay so if the ending whoopee cushion scene was unscripted, when exactly WAS it supposed to have been used? Did they film that scene first and then when everyone loved it so much, went back and wrote Murdoch making it? Cuz otherwise I don’t get it. I'm with you there. Just my own take on this...YB said the "line" wasn't scripted...he didn't say the "scene" wasn't scripted. He was making the whoopie cushion in his office and that wouldn't have made any sense at all without the end scene. I think he was referring to William's comment "that worked so well" (or whatever the exact words were) after Julia sat on it. Helene also commented on that tweet and said it was "just brilliant acting people!" However, I do think she (be it Julia or Helene) was whacking the heck out of William (or Yannick) with the pillow! But since the pillow was there, I'm sure that was supposed to happen too. Sort of like the playful scene at the end of Loch Ness Murdoch. All acting but very natural. On a totally different topic, one thing that seemed odd to me was when Murdoch was questioning the lady with the scar (sorry, character names escape me at the moment) he just walked out of his office and left her sitting there. It just seemed awfully abrupt. An when William was talking to Ed Ward and Ed brought out the pole....all I could think of was William's "pole" in Murdoch Takes Manhattan and for a moment I wondered if there was going to be a pole thing going on between them and someone was going to have to get a yardstick The funny thing about watching it here, on CBC, was the commercials during the breaks were for CBC's Just for Laughs which is stand up comedians and is coming up soon...with Don Rickles, etc. |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 10, 2014 5:47:08 GMT
Just my own take on this...YB said the "line" wasn't scripted...he didn't say the "scene" wasn't scripted. He was making the whoopie cushion in his office and that wouldn't have made any sense at all without the end scene. I think he was referring to William's comment "that worked so well" (or whatever the exact words were) after Julia sat on it. Helene also commented on that tweet and said it was "just brilliant acting people!" However, I do think she (be it Julia or Helene) was whacking the heck out of William (or Yannick) with the pillow! But since the pillow was there, I'm sure that was supposed to happen too. Sort of like the playful scene at the end of Loch Ness Murdoch. All acting but very natural. On a totally different topic, one thing that seemed odd to me was when Murdoch was questioning the lady with the scar (sorry, character names escape me at the moment) he just walked out of his office and left her sitting there. It just seemed awfully abrupt. An when William was talking to Ed Ward and Ed brought out the pole....all I could think of was William's "pole" in Murdoch Takes Manhattan and for a moment I wondered if there was going to be a pole thing going on between them and someone was going to have to get a yardstick The funny thing about watching it here, on CBC, was the commercials during the breaks were for CBC's Just for Laughs which is stand up comedians and is coming up soon...with Don Rickles, etc. From Peter Mitchell on FB, "The scene was scripted in that we wrote the action, the lines, the flowers, the whoopsie cushion etc, the reactions were actors doing what they do best". Sure looked more like Yannick and Helene than William and Julia. Perhaps the line that wasn't scripted was William's "It worked so well". |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 10, 2014 6:18:50 GMT
I got the impression from a tweet by Yannick that the whoopee cushion part of the last scene was ad lib. I thought it seemed more like Yannick/Helene than William/Julia. Whatever, it's priceless! The best part of the whole ep. Here's the question and answer: @yannick_bisson was totally laughing for real in that last scene. Allso did @helene_Joy even know the whoppie cushion was there? @yannick_bisson @stephanie14e @cbcmurdoch @helene_Joy I was a tad shocked that it worked so well, not a scripted line I'm not arguing this -it sounds pretty sound, but if it was adlibbed, what what was William doing with practicing, and making the whoopee cushion then? Really, I'm just curious! Never mind: I think you guys already answered it. |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 10, 2014 7:19:29 GMT
Here's the question and answer: @yannick_bisson was totally laughing for real in that last scene. Allso did @helene_Joy even know the whoppie cushion was there? @yannick_bisson @stephanie14e @cbcmurdoch @helene_Joy I was a tad shocked that it worked so well, not a scripted line I'm not arguing this -it sounds pretty sound, but if it was adlibbed, what what was William doing with practicing, and making the whoopee cushion then? Really, I'm just curious! Never mind: I think you guys already answered it. That's just it, supposedly it wasn't adlibbed. Though it certainly seemed it to me and if it had been that scene could have been filmed first and the rest done to support it. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2014 8:01:59 GMT
I'm not arguing this -it sounds pretty sound, but if it was adlibbed, what what was William doing with practicing, and making the whoopee cushion then? Really, I'm just curious! Never mind: I think you guys already answered it. That's just it, supposedly it wasn't adlibbed. Though it certainly seemed it to me and if it had been that scene could have been filmed first and the rest done to support it. Still haven't had a chance to watch it. ETA tomorrow night.  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2014 8:05:49 GMT
I agree with barbarama in that I'm missing hot Jilliam. They're obviously happy and both are thriving in their marriage and that's great but now we're no longer the fly on the wall -- even for the kisses. But I did love the Gedna kiss and the scene itself was nicely filmed. George is nothing like William...in the same situation. First, I'm already bummed if William and Julia aren't enjoying a fully flavored marriage. And I'm surprised if George can carry a "ship". I'll believe it when I see it. But everyone seems into it. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2014 8:11:09 GMT
In 703 it wasn't that he couldn't act, he was doing/not doing things that were/n't in the script and antagonizing Pendrick who was on a tight budget. He said he couldn't stand the inconsistencies. It bothers me because Julia laughs at him because she apparently thinks he has zero acting ability. But she knows the truth about Anna and that whole setup so it's like it didn't happen at all. I get that 703 was just meant to be funny but I don't like this inconsistency, which makes me just like Murdoch I guess. I don't think it has to be an inconsistency unless you want it to bother you. It's just not the same kind of acting, not the same situation, and not the same stakes. William may act "forced" when he thinks he will be on stage. I remember groaning at my father's performance in Gilbert and Sullivan plays because he adopted such a forced, stagey presence. For Anna, there was no stage. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 10, 2014 8:13:18 GMT
There is a podcast post about Murdoch on a site called TV-eh Thanks for mentioning this! I do check out TV-eh's MM articles, though I don't really like podcasts. Someone else here may listen to it and give us a summary, though. |
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But I did love the Gedna kiss and the scene itself was nicely filmed. And yes, it was very reminiscent of William and Julia's scene's from last season. The situation with Edna is very similar to Enid's situation and I guess after the Boer War there would have been many young widows in town. But George is nothing like William...in the same situation. I think George is a bit more confident in himself (whether that is misplaced or not doesn't really matter----he'll make mistakes and learn from them). It might be interesting to see if the similarities soon end. Looks like George is already going to be way ahead of William in getting to "home base"!!
Jan 30, 2013 21:44:55 GMT