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Post by snacky on Aug 20, 2014 7:43:58 GMT
I'd really like to see Murdoch Mysteries distributed in the U.S., but I'm giving up on my one woman campaign to make it happen. My images didn't go anywhere (not even the Sharknado one). I've been unsuccessful at requesting mainstream media reviews or even attention from Steampunk community events. My Buzzfeed video list isn't getting very much play. My postings on Reddit got trolled. In one area I got a stalker and had to delete my postings.
One "concerned citizen" from the MM community, Masada42, even saw fit to publicly point point how I was being mean to her friend instead of privately asking me to edit. She chose the thread where I was trying to get help promoting MM to highlight what a mean person I was. Really, what's the point of me trying any further when all it takes is someone's petty personal agenda to undermine my attempts to promote the show.
At this point I'm just tired. I've done a lot of work here with no appreciation, much less cooperation. I'm going back to watching my MM eps illegally. Let other Americans discover MM if they can. I'm done.
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Post by wildhorseannie on Aug 22, 2014 1:21:24 GMT
Aw! That's too bad, snacky! Maybe you can just re-direct your efforts. I messaged CBC about the cast doing some American events, but they said that it was up to Ovation to pick up that side of things, since they are the American distributor. Not the answer I was hoping for to be sure, but perhaps something can be done on that end.
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Post by snacky on Aug 22, 2014 2:44:44 GMT
Aw! That's too bad, snacky! Maybe you can just re-direct your efforts. I messaged CBC about the cast doing some American events, but they said that it was up to Ovation to pick up that side of things, since they are the American distributor. Not the answer I was hoping for to be sure, but perhaps something can be done on that end. Waaaaaa long time no see.  |
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Post by wildhorseannie on Aug 22, 2014 2:57:19 GMT
I know, right?! But I had to catch up on Season 7 and work was not helping to that end.  |
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Post by snacky on Aug 22, 2014 3:25:33 GMT
Ugh, it's all your fault FallenTokyoBelle - this thing was so nutty/hilarious I had to post it on Reddit. That's the last thing I'm doing, though. For realz.
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Post by ziggy on Aug 30, 2014 21:13:28 GMT
Don’t be disheartened snacky. I am sure your effort hasn’t gone unnoticed. These things take time to bear fruit and I am confident that you will soon start to see subtle changes by the end of the season as a response to what you’ve been doing out there. I am sure someone is listening. Take for instance, CBC now going to play reruns of season 1 from September 1st which they have been hiding from viewers for so many years. It has taken a while to cut through the red tape and set the wheels in motion. So don’t give up.
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Post by Hodge on Aug 30, 2014 22:06:12 GMT
Don’t be disheartened snacky. I am sure your effort hasn’t gone unnoticed. These things take time to bear fruit and I am confident that you will soon start to see subtle changes by the end of the season as a response to what you’ve been doing out there. I am sure someone is listening. Take for instance, CBC now going to play reruns of season 1 from September 1st which they have been hiding from viewers for so many years. It has taken a while to cut through the red tape and set the wheels in motion. So don’t give up. I don't think CBC has been hiding seasons 1-4, I think they've only just got the rights to air them. They were quick to air season 5 when they got the rights. Snacky, be careful what you wish for when it comes to a US channel picking up MM. In my experience when a US channel picks up a Canadian show they want to change it to make it more 'palatable' for US tastes. Most shows then only last one more season before being cancelled.... I hope the only channel that may be interested is PBS as they know their audience and don't change things. I also think PBS is the right channel for MM ... even if they don't. |
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Post by ziggy on Aug 30, 2014 23:29:31 GMT
I don't think CBC has been hiding seasons 1-4, I think they've only just got the rights to air them. They were quick to air season 5 when they got the rights. Snacky, be careful what you wish for when it comes to a US channel picking up MM. In my experience when a US channel picks up a Canadian show they want to change it to make it more 'palatable' for US tastes. Most shows then only last one more season before being cancelled.... I hope the only channel that may be interested is PBS as they know their audience and don't change things. I also think PBS is the right channel for MM ... even if they don't. I don’t know why they didn’t have the rights to air season 1 reruns since they have been showing reruns from season 2-6. They’ve never showed one episode from season 1 in all this time that’s why I see it as a positive that whatever was blocking the way was eventually lifted to allow reruns from that season just like every other season. I too have the same concerns for the survival of MM as you have regarding being picked up by a US channel. Not everyone there thinks like Snacky or has same intentions. |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 31, 2014 0:09:59 GMT
I don't think CBC has been hiding seasons 1-4, I think they've only just got the rights to air them. They were quick to air season 5 when they got the rights. Snacky, be careful what you wish for when it comes to a US channel picking up MM. In my experience when a US channel picks up a Canadian show they want to change it to make it more 'palatable' for US tastes. Most shows then only last one more season before being cancelled.... I hope the only channel that may be interested is PBS as they know their audience and don't change things. I also think PBS is the right channel for MM ... even if they don't. I don’t know why they didn’t have the rights to air season 1 reruns since they have been showing reruns from season 2-6. They’ve never showed one episode from season 1 in all this time that’s why I see it as a positive that whatever was blocking the way was eventually lifted to allow reruns from that season just like every other season. I too have the same concerns for the survival of MM as you have regarding being picked up by a US channel. Not everyone there thinks like Snacky or has same intentions. Only City TV has had the rights and been airing seasons pre 5 up until now. CBC bought the rights to air season 5 when they took over MM from season 6, it appears they've bought the rights to seasons 1-4 as well now and will start airing them from season 1 on Sept 1st. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 31, 2014 1:09:24 GMT
I too have the same concerns for the survival of MM as you have regarding being picked up by a US channel. Not everyone there thinks like Snacky or has same intentions. Only City TV has had the rights and been airing seasons pre 5 up until now. CBC bought the rights to air season 5 when they took over MM from season 6, it appears they've bought the rights to seasons 1-4 as well now and will start airing them from season 1 on Sept 1st. This is so complicated!  |
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Post by ziggy on Aug 31, 2014 1:21:58 GMT
Only City TV has had the rights and been airing seasons pre 5 up until now. CBC bought the rights to air season 5 when they took over MM from season 6, it appears they've bought the rights to seasons 1-4 as well now and will start airing them from season 1 on Sept 1st. My mixup then with the TV stations. My apologies. Never really paid much attention to who was airing it. I just see MM and simply tune in. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 31, 2014 1:23:43 GMT
Snacky, be careful what you wish for when it comes to a US channel picking up MM. In my experience when a US channel picks up a Canadian show they want to change it to make it more 'palatable' for US tastes. Most shows then only last one more season before being cancelled.... I hope the only channel that may be interested is PBS as they know their audience and don't change things. I also think PBS is the right channel for MM ... even if they don't. I don't think PBS is the right channel because they won't "spam" MM the way it would need to be spammed to gain popularity. It looks like the last time they only picked up Season 1, which is kind of a patchy season - MM was still trying to find it's footing. Then if that season doesn't catch on, they might drop it. What I'm looking for is what MGM did with Stargate. They did weekend reruns on a mainstream channel (I think Fox). Then they SPAMMED daily reruns of seasons 1-5 on the SyFy channel while airing a new Season 6. People got addicted because of those reruns, so the new episodes became very popular despite Stargate being on the "hokey" end of TV shows. SyFy quickly capitalized with spinoffs. The same can be said for the popularity of NCIS. This show only started to command ratings because it was syndicated and the reruns were being spammed everywhere. The parent company owned both the network channel and cable channels. The unfortunate thing is there isn't a mystery niche channel that is as common on low end cable packages as the SyFy channel. Stargate is a really good comparison though, because the content never went beyond "family" friendly, but somehow it really caught on in the US. One thing it did have, though, that MM doesn't have, was all the classes of star ships for battletech nerds, and the tacit approval of the U.S. Air Force. |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 31, 2014 6:37:34 GMT
Snacky, be careful what you wish for when it comes to a US channel picking up MM. In my experience when a US channel picks up a Canadian show they want to change it to make it more 'palatable' for US tastes. Most shows then only last one more season before being cancelled.... I hope the only channel that may be interested is PBS as they know their audience and don't change things. I also think PBS is the right channel for MM ... even if they don't. I don't think PBS is the right channel because they won't "spam" MM the way it would need to be spammed to gain popularity. It looks like the last time they only picked up Season 1, which is kind of a patchy season - MM was still trying to find it's footing. Then if that season doesn't catch on, they might drop it. What I'm looking for is what MGM did with Stargate. They did weekend reruns on a mainstream channel (I think Fox). Then they SPAMMED daily reruns of seasons 1-5 on the SyFy channel while airing a new Season 6. People got addicted because of those reruns, so the new episodes became very popular despite Stargate being on the "hokey" end of TV shows. SyFy quickly capitalized with spinoffs. The same can be said for the popularity of NCIS. This show only started to command ratings because it was syndicated and the reruns were being spammed everywhere. The parent company owned both the network channel and cable channels. The unfortunate thing is there isn't a mystery niche channel that is as common on low end cable packages as the SyFy channel. Stargate is a really good comparison though, because the content never went beyond "family" friendly, but somehow it really caught on in the US. One thing it did have, though, that MM doesn't have, was all the classes of star ships for battletech nerds, and the tacit approval of the U.S. Air Force. But Stargate was a US made programme aimed at a US audience so there was nothing that anyone would want to change in order to make it more palatable. MM is NOT made for US audiences and therefore only appeals to a 'few'. Therefore for a network to pick it up they would probably want changes to Americanize it and that would be the ruination of it. I'm sorry but I don't want another of my shows ruined just so it can be shown to a larger US audience. I don't think it was ever intended to be shown to a mass market in the US. It wasn't even made to be shown to a mass market in Canada, City TV is only available in the larger cities in the country. It's only since it's been on CBC that it's been available to the entire population of Canada. I still think PBS is the place for it as it's more like the British shows than anything else. I suspect PBS isn't interested because it's Canadian and Canadian shows have a reputation of not being very good (even here) though I consider many of them some of the best ... but only the quirky ones, not really interested in the mainstream programming. I must be one of the only people in Canada that can't stand Republic of Doyle! |
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Post by Hodge on Aug 31, 2014 6:49:02 GMT
Only City TV has had the rights and been airing seasons pre 5 up until now. CBC bought the rights to air season 5 when they took over MM from season 6, it appears they've bought the rights to seasons 1-4 as well now and will start airing them from season 1 on Sept 1st. My mixup then with the TV stations. My apologies. Never really paid much attention to who was airing it. I just see MM and simply tune in. MM was originally commissioned by City TV for three movies. They were successful so City ordered a series which they cancelled after season 5. CBC picked it up for season 6, they also bought the rights to season 5 to be shown as (I'm guessing) an introduction to the series (for those who can't get City) whilst season 6 was in production. It's been airing almost every day on City since it took off on CBC, sellers remorse maybe or it's one of the only Canadian shows they've got, wouldn't really know as I've never watched City (until MM) even when we could get it. |
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Post by snacky on Aug 31, 2014 7:53:25 GMT
But Stargate was a US made programme aimed at a US audience so there was nothing that anyone would want to change in order to make it more palatable. MM is NOT made for US audiences and therefore only appeals to a 'few'. Therefore for a network to pick it up they would probably want changes to Americanize it and that would be the ruination of it. I'm sorry but I don't want another of my shows ruined just so it can be shown to a larger US audience. I don't think it was ever intended to be shown to a mass market in the US. It wasn't even made to be shown to a mass market in Canada, City TV is only available in the larger cities in the country. It's only since it's been on CBC that it's been available to the entire population of Canada. I still think PBS is the place for it as it's more like the British shows than anything else. I suspect PBS isn't interested because it's Canadian and Canadian shows have a reputation of not being very good (even here) though I consider many of them some of the best ... but only the quirky ones, not really interested in the mainstream programming. I must be one of the only people in Canada that can't stand Republic of Doyle! Stargate was made in Canada but sold to a U.S. audience - first to the Showtime cable channel (compare that to being stuck on City TV) and then it was bought first by MGM and then by the SyFy channel (which took over new episodes at season 6, compare to CBC, and made Stargate popular). It used a lot of Canadian actors. In a way I think that's why the story structure and "family friendly" aspect is similar to MM. (I find it interesting that the X-Files, which I also liked, was also produced in Canada). I don't see how Stargate was changed beyond the story time getting shorter to accommodate more commercials. That might happen to MM while it's still in Canada, given the plight of the CBC. I think MM is much closer story structure/pacing wise to Stargate than it is to anything on PBS here - even including Dr. Who and Sherlock. I think PBS would bury it simply because of the backup of too many past seasons for syndication, and not enough PBS timeslots to show it. If MM can be picked up by one of the larger media monopolies that owns multiple channels, then it might be able to get the same sort of broad exposure Stargate and NCIS got. (I'm not kidding myself that MM would ever get the level of exposure that NCIS gets - it's not "mainstream" enough - but I think Stargate, a niche show, is a fair comparison). |
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