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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 4:10:04 GMT
Now that you mention it, there has always been something more "geeky" about non-American TV. I remember staying up late in college to watch ancient reruns of Blake's 7 on PBS, and then piling into our version of the "bromobile" to drive into the city for all night Chinese. *fond memories*. OMG! Blake's 7! You got that on US TV? It was my favourite show waaay back when! Yes, local PBS stations here are notorious for getting very old British TV series and running them late Friday nights and such. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 4:26:01 GMT
The fascination started when it first began. It was designed as a filler between sports and the news on a Saturday evening and was supposed to be an entertaining show that showed kids science could be fun. It only became an adult hit as the younger generation grew up and became those adults. Also Dr. Who was an early discoverer of various elements of the "cult" TV show: 1) The iconic clothing. (notoriously the 4th Doctor's long scarf) 2) Decoration and macguffins from multiple historical periods. 3) Unique props that become general symbols of the show - the Tardis, the Daleks 4) Taglines you can put on t-shirts. Dalek: "Exterminate! Exterminate!" 5) An angst-ridden hero that spontaneously generates enough plot bunnies to launch a thousand zines/fanfic (The Doctor, such a sad Dude, the last of his kind). 6) An inherently cool notion. Time Lords. Now that's inherently cool. Especially if you're a lonely middle school nerd and you're tastes aren't too discriminating yet. 7) Cute companions. Diana Gabaldon's Outlander evolved from a Dr. Who companion fanfic. 8) Shock the hell out of your viewers! I watched one where one of the companions didn't disarm a bomb in time and died with the Dinosaurs! Considering Dr. Who was a "light" series like MM, that was so utterly unexpected that this just stuck with me forever. One of the few TV episodes I will remember for all time, though it might seem lame if I watched it now. I could probably go on naming cult elements, and I do thing Sci Fi shows have a bit of an advantage here, though I think MM managed to hook a few despite remaining within the laws of time and space. The point was Dr. Who established a lot of the "Cult TV" pattern - and showed how a fandom would evolve to respond to it even before the Internet. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 4:33:21 GMT
I wonder how William's Japanese poetry reading influenced his imaginings/perception of what he thought Julia's smiles/expressions were all about? Somehow I'm starting to think of this as a form of William's access to pronz, in the era before Playboy magazines. This makes me question whether Julia was about to become undone with Pendrick or William imagined she was because he was reading way too much erotic Japanese poetry...  Ps. Regarding the stairs issue...I take it they just had to make it upstairs because it was a "special first time"?  |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 4:37:54 GMT
The fascination started when it first began. It was designed as a filler between sports and the news on a Saturday evening and was supposed to be an entertaining show that showed kids science could be fun. It only became an adult hit as the younger generation grew up and became those adults. Dr. Who also came on in the afternoon (like a "kid's show") on PBS when I was young. But Blake's 7 and other weird British sci fi was late at night. PBS ran really cool shows when I was young: the problem was they were all really ancient reruns, probably very cheap to distribute. That wouldn't be acceptable to day, when people can easily go online and find out what the current episode of a TV show should be (and, in many cases, find a way to catch up). |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 5, 2014 5:58:47 GMT
I wonder how William's Japanese poetry reading influenced his imaginings/perception of what he thought Julia's smiles/expressions were all about? Somehow I'm starting to think of this as a form of William's access to pronz, in the era before Playboy magazines. This makes me question whether Julia was about to become undone with Pendrick or William imagined she was because he was reading way too much erotic Japanese poetry... Ps. Regarding the stairs issue...I take it they just had to make it upstairs because it was a "special first time"? Oh this was absolutely his pron stash (or at least I was trying to hint as such)  . As I've stated earlier, I don't think he was looking at base things like dirty photos much, or attending scandalous Parisian revues, but he was reading texts about sexuality-including eastern sexuality, and I think at some point, he would have discovered erotic Japanese poetry-which was very, very subtle, and I think more to his tastes than scantily clad harem girls. So, yes, I intended his knowledge of these things to most definitely clue him into what Julia was feeling/experiencing. As he's a very private man, he became most distressed when he saw how she was responding. And so, thus the ultimatum/choices he gives her.  As for Julia, she was never going to come undone with Pendrick or any one else but William. She imagined dancing with him that night as she was stimulated, told him what she was going to do, and all her thoughts were of William as she became stimulated. Even dancing with Pendrick, as she discovered that she was being aroused by the balls, she looks over at William as a subconscious rescue signal; she's beginning to lose control, and she wants William holding her when she does. Which is why she practically collapses in his arms when he does come to her, and really starts to acquiesce to the arousal she's experiencing. William being William, is afraid that she's going to lose it with Pendrick, and he's nervous about it (did you catch the fact that he gulps down a large glass of scotch?) and Dutch courage installed, goes to do something about it. Once they were safely in the carriage and he's holding her in his lap, he's definitely enjoying her discomforted state.  Or at least that's what I was trying to convey. I hope that's what came across. And yes, a fast and hard quickie up against the door the next time she informs him that she's wearing the balls would be divine, but there's not a chance in hell that William is going to have their first time be so wanton. Patience, grasshopper. I found this example of an erotic poem concerning rin-no-tama: 'The device of the two copper plums With silver in them Slowly and very slowly Satisfies. Just as all finishes Dew falls on my clenched hand'. 'I would rather the bean flowered yellow And he were here...' Found here: www.oocities.org/erotobook/s-page.htm |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 6:37:14 GMT
Once they were safely in the carriage and he's holding her in his lap, he's definitely enjoying her discomforted state. And yes, a fast and hard quickie up against the door the next time she informs him that she's wearing the balls would be divine, but there's not a chance in hell that William is going to have their first time be so wanton. Patience, grasshopper. I found this example of an erotic poem concerning rin-no-tama: 'The device of the two copper plums With silver in them Slowly and very slowly Satisfies. Just as all finishes Dew falls on my clenched hand'. 'I would rather the bean flowered yellow And he were here...' Perhaps Ruby should enclose a poem so Julia has some idea what William is thinking. I don't know how they both survived that carriage ride. I'm surprised William didn't have to pay the driver to park and take a walk for a while...  Loooooove this fanfic with a cultural twist. no pun intended. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 5, 2014 6:51:08 GMT
When Julia is talking about the requirements to file for divorce William does say that they haven't committed adultery. Ooh did William actually swear that in Court? I've been theorizing for months that William couldn't have touched Julia during her marriage because it was adultery, and here it was canon all along... Though kissing her is kind of coveting another man's wife, so if you want to get technical about the Commandments...
So romantic William held out for her. *sniffle*
No this wasn't in court, it was when they were discussing filing for divorce. Julia did try in court to say that the night at the Queen's Hotel wasn't what it seemed but the lawyer cut her off. Yes, it is coveting another man's wife so he's not exactly out of the woods where the commandments are concerned. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 5, 2014 6:57:22 GMT
Dr. Who also came on in the afternoon (like a "kid's show") on PBS when I was young. But Blake's 7 and other weird British sci fi was late at night. PBS ran really cool shows when I was young: the problem was they were all really ancient reruns, probably very cheap to distribute. That wouldn't be acceptable to day, when people can easily go online and find out what the current episode of a TV show should be (and, in many cases, find a way to catch up). Weird British sci fi?? Cheap more like, I remember the actors complaining about the sets falling apart in their hands. I believe Blake's 7 came on at 7pm in Britain. I think it's probably the only show that's ever run a complete season w/o the main character appearing once. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 7:40:08 GMT
Weird British sci fi?? Cheap more like, I remember the actors complaining about the sets falling apart in their hands. I believe Blake's 7 came on at 7pm in Britain. I think it's probably the only show that's ever run a complete season w/o the main character appearing once. Somehow the British accents gave them some cachet in the US, though. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Sept 5, 2014 14:19:34 GMT
I was really into Fringe for the first 3 seasons and then MM kind of bumped it out of the top obsessive spot. But I would try to come up with insane theories for what was going to happen next and I was usually way off base, which I really liked because it meant they actually knew what they were doing with the storyline instead of just making shit up as they went along. Alias was the best show J.J. Abrams ever made! I agree it was more addictive due to its constant crazy cliffhangers but I don't think it was better than Fringe. Alias was always moving so rapidly that I found the individual cases hard to follow...and it was less funny. And I just plain like the Fringe characters more, I actually cared what happened to all of them. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 5, 2014 15:24:08 GMT
Alias was the best show J.J. Abrams ever made! I agree it was more addictive due to its constant crazy cliffhangers but I don't think it was better than Fringe. Alias was always moving so rapidly that I found the individual cases hard to follow...and it was less funny. And I just plain like the Fringe characters more, I actually cared what happened to all of them. Fringe was another of my favourite shows, to the point where I actually went out and bought the DVD's. Unfortunately I didn't catch much of the last season as I could never find it, not sure if they kept changing the time or what. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Sept 5, 2014 16:24:37 GMT
I agree it was more addictive due to its constant crazy cliffhangers but I don't think it was better than Fringe. Alias was always moving so rapidly that I found the individual cases hard to follow...and it was less funny. And I just plain like the Fringe characters more, I actually cared what happened to all of them. Fringe was another of my favourite shows, to the point where I actually went out and bought the DVD's. Unfortunately I didn't catch much of the last season as I could never find it, not sure if they kept changing the time or what. I have all the DVD's too. I would buy the MM ones in a heartbeat if they would lower the price to something reasonable for once. I.e. not 70+ dollars for blu-ray. So you never saw how it ended? Or do you just mean you never saw most of S5 'live'? I can't remember if they changed the time...I think they changed the day to Fridays...but I'm not sure when they did that and what day it was before that. Anyway, I have yet to rewatch S5 because it's kind of slow and depressing. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 5, 2014 17:29:49 GMT
Once they were safely in the carriage and he's holding her in his lap, he's definitely enjoying her discomforted state. And yes, a fast and hard quickie up against the door the next time she informs him that she's wearing the balls would be divine, but there's not a chance in hell that William is going to have their first time be so wanton. Patience, grasshopper. I found this example of an erotic poem concerning rin-no-tama: 'The device of the two copper plums With silver in them Slowly and very slowly Satisfies. Just as all finishes Dew falls on my clenched hand'. 'I would rather the bean flowered yellow And he were here...' Perhaps Ruby should enclose a poem so Julia has some idea what William is thinking. I don't know how they both survived that carriage ride. I'm surprised William didn't have to pay the driver to park and take a walk for a while... Loooooove this fanfic with a cultural twist. no pun intended. William has to save a few things to shock Julia with after they're married. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 5, 2014 18:20:09 GMT
Perhaps Ruby should enclose a poem so Julia has some idea what William is thinking. I don't know how they both survived that carriage ride. I'm surprised William didn't have to pay the driver to park and take a walk for a while... Loooooove this fanfic with a cultural twist. no pun intended. William has to save a few things to shock Julia with after they're married. I love the idea of William shocking Julia. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 5, 2014 20:55:48 GMT
Fringe was another of my favourite shows, to the point where I actually went out and bought the DVD's. Unfortunately I didn't catch much of the last season as I could never find it, not sure if they kept changing the time or what. I have all the DVD's too. I would buy the MM ones in a heartbeat if they would lower the price to something reasonable for once. I.e. not 70+ dollars for blu-ray. So you never saw how it ended? Or do you just mean you never saw most of S5 'live'? I can't remember if they changed the time...I think they changed the day to Fridays...but I'm not sure when they did that and what day it was before that. Anyway, I have yet to rewatch S5 because it's kind of slow and depressing. I watched seasons 1-4 on TV, can't remember what channel, and so far have seasons 1-3 on blu-ray. I saw some of season 5, never two in a row, so really couldn't follow what was happening and didn't see the last episode so have no idea how it ended. I have to admit the eps I did see didn't thrill me so I'm not sure I missed much but eventually I will get seasons 4 & 5 and complete the set. I have the 1-4 boxed set of MM on DVD because I can take them anywhere and watch on my computer. I have seasons 5-7 on my computer but again I will get them on DVD and eventually all of them on blu-ray, when I can afford it! |
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