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Post by Hodge on Jan 27, 2015 4:20:42 GMT
George implicates girl in murder…gets a hairy companion. Emily implicates girl in murder…gets a handsy companion. Who got the better deal? You decide!  George, absolutely!! Who'd want Lillian Moss??  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 4:24:27 GMT
We wrote almost the exact same sentence at the same time, stop denying it….that's CONNECTION my dear  Where's the thumbs down button when you need it.  The only way you could have annoyed me more was to like that comment. Well played. Well played indeed. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 4:41:01 GMT
'The victim was suffocated mysteriously.' 'Curious, very curious. I'll be taking that corset home now for my wife to try on.' Okay, that's not really fair but I still found it strange he'd take home something on a murdered person rather than examine it first... Ew? So that wasn't a test to solve the murder? It was just spoils to take home to the little wifey?  Dang I was really hoping for some Julia corset angst. I also had a secret theory that this was the ep we might discover a little Murdoch bun in the oven, despite the better judgment of all commenters on this forum... |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 4:43:28 GMT
I found it strange that William took home the corset, unless he wanted Julia to look at it. I guess she didn't realize you look with your eyes!  No, I'm pretty sure he wanted her to try it on (even though he seemed concerned). I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking with his big brain when he decided to bring it home.  I guess it's a modern thing and he knows Julia likes modern things, and it would be a "liberating" improvement on her current corset... Why was he so concerned about possible ill effects in the teaser if this occurs after the case? |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 4:47:49 GMT
So George finally impressed Murdoch. Not with any theories mind you, but by his work ethic. I'm not as annoyed with Murdoch as I had been the last few eps. I think the whole George can do his job thoroughly without Murdoch's guidance is a big hint that George is ready for the next step of his career. Him being a detective at another station house won't really work for the show though...if he goes to SH5, it'd be very brief I'm sure. Or if he gets turned down for a promotion, then like Snacky suggested, he might decide to start up his own PI gig at the end of the season...but if they go the whole route of him trying to solve the same cases as Murdoch before Murdoch, well, then it's exactly like what Castle is doing right now. I think if George got his own PI business, he would constantly be called in to consult as an assistant to William. If I understand correctly the constabulary weren't even supposed to be having in-house detectives like William - they used the Pinkertons. This is also why I think the private crime lab thingy could work... George has shown his competence over and over and over again for 8 seasons now. It's gotten him squat. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 4:51:46 GMT
Ahahaha, that Lemily scene was completely unexpected! I didn't think that they'd actually go down that road, but it sure is looking like it! I do wonder, however, how far they'll take it. Will it be treated like an ordinary heterosexual romance (in terms of the SHOW'S treatment of it, not the in-universe treatment of it, which will obviously be quite different)? We've had several episodes that touch upon and even revolve around homosexuality, but have there actually been any m/m f/f kisses? I'm also not looking forward to the comments on Facebook- I'm ready for countless rounds of 'bisexual. The word you're looking for is bisexual.' I am excited at this (however remote) possibility, though. Considering our primary cast isn't particularly diverse, a canonically queer character has the potential to be groundbreaking, especially in a show as popular as this. Woohoo, they confirmed Lemily! Yahtzee! Congratulations on having some guts once more MM writing team. #MMWritersAreEdgy #CrumpetThat On the show I doubt we'd see any more than Xena - fan speculation can take from there. If people want to speculate on it, there's plenty of historical research on female relationships of the period and how they were perceived and expressed. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 4:59:24 GMT
Well, other than Murdoch and Gillies, I can't think of any kisses. That wasn't in a sexual manner at all so it doesn't count imo. I doubt they'll have Lemily kiss though. Maybe on the cheek but that's about it. I'll make a cynical prediction about that. I think it will depend on the Downton Abbey effect. The super secret reason Downton Abbey exploded in the US was because of the gay characters. That's what got it an underground following and media coverage at first. The "mainstream" audience that was more interested in Downton Abbey because of the costumes, the wit, and because everyone else was watching it built on top of that original core. So if people continue to watch MM for MM, Lemily will remain within the terms of MM. But if Lemily spawns the same kind of cult following as Downton Abbey did and that FINALLY gets MM some reviews - which it has never been able to get a decent foothold on in the US - then the writers might push the envelope a little more in recognition that the "edginess" got them somewhere. |
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Post by lilac on Jan 27, 2015 5:00:45 GMT
George implicates girl in murder…gets a hairy companion. Emily implicates girl in murder…gets a handsy companion. Who got the better deal? You decide! Whatever happened to that dog? George never mentions him as far as I can remember and even if he didn't give Edna the dog back after they started dating, at least I would think they would show him bringing the dog along to one of their family outings. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:02:24 GMT
Perhaps Emily will convince her to give it a go? I'm sure Murdoch would approve...eventually.  I guess it wasn't illegal to go corset free...but like Emily, most women would've felt naked without it so they kept wearing them. And also, didn't they kinda have to in order to wear a lot of those dresses? I think men would have considered it risque and possibly a sluttish invitation to advances - sort of like if a woman went bra-less today. Yep, it would have been hard to shoe-horn into those dresses without a corset! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:04:45 GMT
George implicates girl in murder…gets a hairy companion. Emily implicates girl in murder…gets a handsy companion. Who got the better deal? You decide! Whatever happened to that dog? George never mentions him as far as I can remember and even if he didn't give Edna the dog back after they started dating, at least I would think they would show him bringing the dog along to one of their family outings. The dog has shown up in other episodes, and I thought George might have mentioned Violet to Edna, but maybe not. Violet will probably show up again - a lot has been made of George as a dog-lover. Though I just realized we didn't see Violet in the episode where the Chinese guy spent the night with George...? |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 5:09:15 GMT
Whatever happened to that dog? George never mentions him as far as I can remember and even if he didn't give Edna the dog back after they started dating, at least I would think they would show him bringing the dog along to one of their family outings. The dog has shown up in other episodes, and I thought George might have mentioned Violet to Edna, but maybe not. Violet will probably show up again - a lot has been made of George as a dog-lover. Though I just realized we didn't see Violet in the episode where the Chinese guy spent the night with George...? Violet has been mentioned I think as recently as S6 (CoD) but I don't think since then and I don't think we ever saw her after the pilot ep. I'm not sure she's still alive because of KFC...or they just decided she wasn't necessary so didn't include her. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 5:12:05 GMT
No, I'm pretty sure he wanted her to try it on (even though he seemed concerned). I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking with his big brain when he decided to bring it home. I guess it's a modern thing and he knows Julia likes modern things, and it would be a "liberating" improvement on her current corset... Why was he so concerned about possible ill effects in the teaser if this occurs after the case? Are you one of those annoying people who asks questions while the movie is playing? How bout you watch the ep instead of me telling you everything that happens. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:14:47 GMT
Yeah, Murdoch/Gillies was totally a shock-factor thing (well, that's my opinion). Gillies had a perverse fascination with Murdoch, but I don't believe it was sexual or romantic in the least. He's always been portrayed as cold, clever, and calculating; his last act of escape reflected that. I just really hope people aren't going to be horrible about the possibility of Emily/Lilian, you know? I've already seen a few people throwing about the 'stop trying to be politically correct', and it's so not about that- it's about portraying realistic characters, as well as representing thousands of people whose very existences are frequently belittled and ignored. If you don't like the pairing, that's that- but if you don't like it because it's f/f, well, that's something else entirely. I'm more worried about the stereotype of the "Man-Hating Lesbian" that people started whipping out a couple weeks ago. I think this was a result of a miscalculation on the part of the writers who were really trying to represent a generational gap that was a real thing in the Woman's Movement at the time, but because we were also speculating on Lillian as the lesbian character...oops. Well, I beg the writing team to do a lot of research and tread careful with this one. I sure they realize they are playing with a political hot potato here. And we're going to get 10 very persnickity people wring their hands over morals, christianity, history, good character development, and whatever else they can think of to try to condemn the storyline that offends their sensibilities. Then they may stomp off in a huff, claiming they will bring all their friends with them and that this ruined MM, etc., etc. But then 10 people will start to watch MM BECAUSE of the interesting new storyline, and they will bring their friends, so the unpleasant persnickityness will be a wash. In the meantime MM writers will have done something gutsy and now, and MM fans who like a little intellectual challenge will have something gutsy and new to talk about. AMEN. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:16:18 GMT
I guess it's a modern thing and he knows Julia likes modern things, and it would be a "liberating" improvement on her current corset... Why was he so concerned about possible ill effects in the teaser if this occurs after the case? Are you one of those annoying people who asks questions while the movie is playing? How bout you watch the ep instead of me telling you everything that happens. I usually don't have access to it until the next day.  But I did get lucky a couple weeks ago, so I'll go check. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:17:56 GMT
The dog has shown up in other episodes, and I thought George might have mentioned Violet to Edna, but maybe not. Violet will probably show up again - a lot has been made of George as a dog-lover. Though I just realized we didn't see Violet in the episode where the Chinese guy spent the night with George...? Violet has been mentioned I think as recently as S6 (CoD) but I don't think since then and I don't think we ever saw her after the pilot ep. I'm not sure she's still alive because of KFC...or they just decided she wasn't necessary so didn't include her. We saw her in that ep that where dogs were being experimented on and George allowed Violet to be kidnapped so he could follow her. |
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But I did get lucky a couple weeks ago, so I'll go check. 
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