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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:44:39 GMT
I'm actually not too concerned that it's a rerun, it's getting dangerously close to the end of this season, only six more eps to go.... Time to increase the eps to 26 like the US seasons!! They could easily take several breaks over the course of filming. I think showing The Murdoch Sting is a good way to ease into The Incurables as Eva Pearce is one of the asylum inmates. I actually wish they had stayed with the 13 ep formula. I always prefer quality over quantity and I'm afraid I find half of most US shows to be filler and rather a waste of time to watch. Sure some eps are necessary stepping stones to something grander but that shouldn't need to be like half of a season.... I can see your point. I don't like dilution either. It's better to have 13 quality than 18 meh. I suppose I get paranoid about the show being suddenly cancelled, so I hope for 18 quality and for there to be as many as possible in the can for reruns. 13 per season is very few. And, if you think about it, we lost a lot of Hotness!William because of it.
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:45:28 GMT
Even without Julia, it's ripe for jealous!Julia fanfic (or possibly Threesome!fic). If only I had the time... I wrote the dinner scene with Julia in it like it was supposed to be. Ugh, now I have to go check that out...
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:47:46 GMT
George, absolutely!! Who'd want Lillian Moss?? It sounds like Emily does!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 5:51:55 GMT
I actually wish they had stayed with the 13 ep formula. I always prefer quality over quantity and I'm afraid I find half of most US shows to be filler and rather a waste of time to watch. Sure some eps are necessary stepping stones to something grander but that shouldn't need to be like half of a season.... I can see your point. I don't like dilution either. It's better to have 13 quality than 18 meh. I suppose I get paranoid about the show being suddenly cancelled, so I hope for 18 quality and for there to be as many as possible in the can for reruns. 13 per season is very few. And, if you think about it, we lost a lot of Hotness!William because of it. Are you saying Yannick isn't hot anymore? Orphan Black and tons of other HBO shows only do 10 eps per season. And they are all usually really good. The storyline has to be tight and concise to get anywhere in a season. And it keeps my interest because of this.
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 5:56:42 GMT
I enjoyed how parental George became of Simon and the scene with Brax and Crabtree defending their sons was humorous, it really seems like George is ready to be father. I would say even more ready at this point than Murdoch. Something I noticed is a parallel to Lemily and Gedna's early interactions. George and Emily were both betrayers of their partners confidences and sold them out to Murdoch where he then persecuted them. They were of course, found innocent but still each time there was barely enough evidence to even suspect them before George and Emily took private information and instead of even consulting them first for their side, went straight to Murdoch. I get that they have a duty to report anything they hear to Murdoch but if I were in Lillian or Edna's position's I wouldn't be so easily forgiving. That is interesting: using information from their private relationship to narc on their partners instead of covering up for their partners. But since William is the protagonist, he would probably cover up for Julia. This says a lot about how much George and Emily trust their respective partners vs how much they need to keep their primary identity as stewards of The Law (represented by William) intact. It's really about their own identities rather than particular loyalty to William, though. In both cases, the partners would surely realize they were treated as suspects and adjust their behavior accordingly. Can't wait to see Big Daddy George!
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 6:00:27 GMT
I can see your point. I don't like dilution either. It's better to have 13 quality than 18 meh. I suppose I get paranoid about the show being suddenly cancelled, so I hope for 18 quality and for there to be as many as possible in the can for reruns. 13 per season is very few. And, if you think about it, we lost a lot of Hotness!William because of it. Are you saying Yannick isn't hot anymore? Orphan Black and tons of other HBO shows only do 10 eps per season. And they are all usually really good. The storyline has to be tight and concise to get anywhere in a season. And it keeps my interest because of this. I've seen a couple episodes of Orphan Black and it didn't hook me. I guess Battlestar Galactica would be a comparable "must see" show that only doled out a few eps at a time. But I hated that, too, lol. Yannick will always be good looking. He looks like a gentleman now. But he was a babe when he was a decade younger in that first season. Don't you wish we could have gotten a little more of that? please turn off all sexism alerts
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Post by Hodge on Jan 27, 2015 6:31:11 GMT
George, absolutely!! Who'd want Lillian Moss?? It sounds like Emily does! She can have her, preferably off screen.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 27, 2015 9:53:15 GMT
So I guess the 'her' Mitchell was talking about was not Julia after all. Huh, go figure. (in relation to going corset free) Well looks like Lemily is well on it's way to being a thing...I couldn't stop laughing over the ending though. This was a decent ep but I'd say my least fave of the year so far, at least case wise. 'The victim was suffocated mysteriously.' 'Curious, very curious. I'll be taking that corset home now for my wife to try on.' Okay, that's not really fair but I still found it strange he'd take home something on a murdered person rather than examine it first... So, let me get this straight: Julia talks about (on more than one occasion) the wonderful feeling of being liberated from a corset or the beauty of a woman's body sans corset and the character to be freed from the corset is Emily? WTF? I don't understand... Unless, William seriously has a fetish for corsets. Why did she defend them? Actually, William having a fetish for corsets explains a lot in this episode... Unless it was a parallel to the current free-the nipple/bras are symbols of oppression? BTW, you'll pry my bra out of my cold, dead hands. I have big boobs-it's not optional for me! Kthanxbai.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 27, 2015 10:02:32 GMT
It sounds like Emily does! She can have her, preferably off screen. Yeah...not liking her any better this week. Also, I still think she has some responsibility for the model's death. But because she's banging Emily, she'll get off scot free.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 27, 2015 10:07:28 GMT
If Lillian is rich, she can have her clothes specially tailored. The answer to that is in the show and I'm not going to spoil it for you. Huh, I know about her past, but I didn't catch that. If it wasn't Lillian, I'd be probably be more intrigued to rewatch it again and find out. But it's Lillian, and I just don't care. Also, this episode, while okay, got my hopes up, and ultimately, didn't deliver.
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 14:12:26 GMT
I liked this ep! The plot kept twisting enough that you didn't know who dunnit till the end. So many MM plots have revolved around an obvious suspect with William setting out to prove it. He had to do that here but he was ably helped by Julia and Emily who FINALLY got to be more than arm candy and 15 seconds of diagnosis. I loved William's version of "doing something fun this evening"...figuring out how a killer corset works in the morgue! I got to wondering about how the ratchet mechanism works though...does it reset itself every time the corset is removed? It must. Did anyone else wonder how the seamstress figured out/engineered the ratcheting mechanism?
IMO, William brought the corset home for Julia to try because a) he wanted to see her in it (and get her out of it), and b) he knew she would be fascinated with it. He didn't know it was a killer corset until she activated it. I've watched the scene a couple of times...when Julia first puts it on both her arms are working normally. They must have filmed it before her accident then re-shot the last bit with a plausible fall. I'm thinking they did because they were at the Walper Hotel filming ToD and re-writing when Helene had her biking accident.
Even though George didn't have a lot of face time he made a contribution to solving the case that had enough punch for William to give him a well deserved, thoughtful "Good job George".
The sub plot with the boys and 'dads' made me laugh. Brax is right back to Mr. "Beat-it-out-of-them" so I guess his PTSD has abated. Naturally the boys were finished as soon as blood started to flow.
I still dislike Lillian Moss. What cheek..."Julia, maybe you should be loosening something besides your corset"!!!! I did like seeing her squirm under William's questioning but what happened to those destruction of property charges? We do get some valuable insight into why she has become an activist and it is based in personal anger that she has converted into a fight against repression. It supports my opinion that she is also a man-hater. Yep, the writers are going there with Lemily. We'll see how this plays out but if Snacky's scenario of viewership plays out then it's a really good thing.
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 14:18:06 GMT
I'm posting this here as it's semi-related, but I was online earlier and you Toronto folk are lucky enough to be able to attend this exhibit at the Bata Shoe Museum (just the fact that you have a museum dedicated to shoes is enough to make me jealous.) The exhibit is called Fashion Victims: The Pleasures and Perils of Dress in the 19th Century and it discusses the toxic dyes used to get those sought after greens and purples. This exhibit looks totally awesome! They filmed part of the "Making of" at this exhibit! This is exactly what inspired my 'psychic' plot summary . It makes me wonder if they were filming the ep or getting ready to when I wrote the post. I will totally admit to having a serious 'Yessssssss!!!!', fist pump moment over it .
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 14:19:37 GMT
Did anyone notice the wedding photo just to the right of the cocoa tray? Awwww.
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 14:30:32 GMT
Something I noticed is a parallel to Lemily and Gedna's early interactions. George and Emily were both betrayers of their partners confidences and sold them out to Murdoch where he then persecuted them. They were of course, found innocent but still each time there was barely enough evidence to even suspect them before George and Emily took private information and instead of even consulting them first for their side, went straight to Murdoch. I get that they have a duty to report anything they hear to Murdoch but if I were in Lillian or Edna's position's I wouldn't be so easily forgiving. Very interesting point. They both stumbled over information outside of their regular duties and instinct #1 was to run it by William. I believe that it didn't occur to either of them not to share the info because they both believe so strongly that William will do the right thing with it to exonerate that person. I'm with you though that I wouldn't be so forgiving if I were Lillian or Edna.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 27, 2015 14:34:26 GMT
Did anyone notice the wedding photo just to the right of the cocoa tray? Awwww. Yes, I did. A 3rd wedding photo. Awwww. I still want to know when those pics were taken. They didn't see each other until the altar, then they ran away to arrest Mrs. Thompson.
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