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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 17:03:19 GMT
So William was right and Julia found the corset where no man would think to look....... sooooooooo she found it in the _________?  her body. The seamstresses body. Hence, 'You won't find it there' when told they were searching her home. And that's why Murdoch knocked her purse to the ground to see if she could pick it up. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 17:05:41 GMT
She can have her, preferably off screen. I'm open minded but that end scene creeped me out.  That said, I've now decided that Lemily should get married. If William and Julia's marriage is an example, then marriage will put the kabosh on our having to endure any kissing or other intimate scenes between them.  I didn't get where you were going with that until the end. Well played.  |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 27, 2015 17:08:18 GMT
BTW, you'll pry my bra out of my cold, dead hands. I have big boobs-it's not optional for me! Kthanxbai.So now instead of squeezing your ribs and organs to support them from below you'll hang them from your shoulders, possibly causing shoulder and back problems. Doesn't sound too good of a trade to me. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 17:46:13 GMT
Haha, good point. They made everyone come back the next morning in their wedding duds?  But Julia's dress would have obviously been ripped up pretty bad so that can't be the solution either.
OMG! I just figured it out! Tie is to William as corset is to Julia. We've been talking so long about how the tie serves as a leash on William, we missed where the corset does the same on Julia. When both are removed, unholyness occurs! Unspeakable unholyness...  It's a miracle they haven't been kicked out of their hotel yet. On their wedding night, William discovered that he had a serious predilection for corsets. He was supposed to be helping Julia out of the garment, but instead he found he was fascinated and aroused at how the garment ever so gently controlled her body while concealing it from the view of others. He couldn't help but take his time and examine the corset completely- examining the foundation piece with his hands-ever so slowly driving his bride mad with desire-noting how her breath hitched as he pulled on and tightened the laces. He liked how the corset was removed only in the privacy of the home and how it was the epitome of propriety; William believed in propriety. At least in public, that is. In the closed doors of their suite, William enjoyed nothing more than being anything and everything but proper. He liked it best when he could remove his suit and particularly his tie, and in turn, undress Julia-at his leisure, of course, while taking time to enjoy her heaving bosom and watching her come undone as he made her mad with desire. Umm, yeah, I think I just scared myself. Nope...just scary GOOD  . More pleeeeeeeeeease!! |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 27, 2015 17:57:08 GMT
Yeah...not liking her any better this week. Also, I still think she has some responsibility for the model's death. But because she's banging Emily, she'll get off scot free.I don't think she is yet, it's still wishful thinking. Hope it stays that way, Emily doesn't need that kind of role model. This woman is trouble and it seems Emily is impressionable. An interesting dynamic may be developing here. Emily seems to be caught between two strong forces. Julia is her mentor and strongest supporter but with a conservative leaning (despite her scandalous behaviour) relative to Lillian. Lillian "scares" Emily with her wilingness to cross social boundaries in support of her cause, yet not enough to allow herself to be unlaced and potentially begin an affair or at least some exploration. If Lillian leads Emily too far outside of acceptable boundaries her job may be jeopardized...and Julia can come back to the morgue!! |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 27, 2015 18:08:49 GMT
I don't think she is yet, it's still wishful thinking. Hope it stays that way, Emily doesn't need that kind of role model. This woman is trouble and it seems Emily is impressionable. An interesting dynamic may be developing here. Emily seems to be caught between two strong forces. Julia is her mentor and strongest supporter but with a conservative leaning (despite her scandalous behaviour) relative to Lillian. Lillian "scares" Emily with her wilingness to cross social boundaries in support of her cause, yet not enough to allow herself to be unlaced and potentially begin an affair or at least some exploration. If Lillian leads Emily too far outside of acceptable boundaries her job may be jeopardized...and Julia can come back to the morgue!! Oh, lovemondays I'm liking that idea!! To think we used to think Julia was scandalous, she's got nothing on LM. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 19:25:10 GMT
Yeah...not liking her any better this week. Also, I still think she has some responsibility for the model's death. But because she's banging Emily, she'll get off scot free.I don't think she is yet, it's still wishful thinking. Hope it stays that way, Emily doesn't need that kind of role model. This woman is trouble and it seems Emily is impressionable. I'm not sure she could really be held responsible, she didn't know she was wearing a corset that could kill her however she is guilty of vandalism and it seems that was overlooked. I'm getting the weirdest since of cognitive dissonance from watching these episodes because this has been a powerful "Civil Rights Movement 2.0" discussion in the U.S. right now, especially in the area where I live (because of its previous identification with radical movements in the 60s), and, of course, Ferguson. The weird thing is, I'm almost sure these episodes were written before these discussions really became hyper-activated around November. It makes me wonder whether some of the scripts were actually modified to reflect current events. Though Lillian Mosses' character had to have been conceived in advance, hmmm... Anyway, the reason I don't automatically react negatively to her is I've seen a lot of vandalism over the last few months, and I've been hearing the defenses of it - live! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 19:40:17 GMT
Some quick post viewing comments that might be redundant because I still have today's forum comments to read through... Ha! I was right about Julia in corset distress! I knew that hot cocoa provided the perfect opportunity! But I was sooo disappointed that William didn't seem to give a second thought to the fact that he'd put Julia in a corset that had nearly squished her to death! You'd think he'd be a bit guilty for not thoroughly checking the corset out beforehand. Instead he just tested it on his wife? Ever since Helene alluded to this scene at the Wedding Event, I've been waiting all season for William to guilt trip over this. And...nothing. *pout*. William barely even touched Julia after unstrapping her from her corset. Grr. I did like how William continued to slather his natural interest in heaving bosoms in the "fun" of science. Threesome! I'm a bit confused about Lillian's background and source of income now. A few episodes ago she had a rich uncle and she was the key to funding the campaign. Now she's cast out of the family, and her history of social injustice is to put her on the "radical" side of the woman's movement. It feels like she got some rapid Emily-style re-writing there. I like the latter version better, though, if the writers can avoid the "Lesbian/Feminist Man-Hater(!)" stereotype. I thought the mystery was good - better than I was led to expect from the comments. I think it was underserved by the gadget part - William needed to explain the ratchets better. Oh - haha at William's face when Inspector B teased him about knowing his way around corsets. Hmm, Simon did seem like George's son there... |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 20:56:03 GMT
Did anyone notice the wedding photo just to the right of the cocoa tray? Awwww. No but I noticed the hot "oriental" red robe on the chair next to where Julia collapsed! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 20:59:47 GMT
An interesting dynamic may be developing here. Emily seems to be caught between two strong forces. Julia is her mentor and strongest supporter but with a conservative leaning (despite her scandalous behaviour) relative to Lillian. Lillian "scares" Emily with her wilingness to cross social boundaries in support of her cause, yet not enough to allow herself to be unlaced and potentially begin an affair or at least some exploration. If Lillian leads Emily too far outside of acceptable boundaries her job may be jeopardized...and Julia can come back to the morgue!! Oh, lovemondays I'm liking that idea!! To think we used to think Julia was scandalous, she's got nothing on LM. Aw but that would mean Georgina would lose her job on the show, just when her character is starting to become more interesting! Other than that, I like lovemonday's analysis, and that is something like what I've been saying about the generational conflict represented by Julia and Lillian. I hope Lillian won't be going "too far" so that Emily has to be "rescued" by the forces of conservatism, though! I'd rather see her rescued by Red Emma, tee hee! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 21:02:33 GMT
BTW, you'll pry my bra out of my cold, dead hands. I have big boobs-it's not optional for me! Kthanxbai.So now instead of squeezing your ribs and organs to support them from below you'll hang them from your shoulders, possibly causing shoulder and back problems. Doesn't sound too good of a trade to me. Hey, in California we went all the way to liberating breasts from clothes all together, including annual "free breast" runs! |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 21:07:01 GMT
I'm open minded but that end scene creeped me out. That said, I've now decided that Lemily should get married. If William and Julia's marriage is an example, then marriage will put the kabosh on our having to endure any kissing or other intimate scenes between them. I didn't get where you were going with that until the end. Well played. I'm feeling some political guilt about my inclinations here. While I'm intellectually for this relationship, I'd prefer any intimacies take place off screen, too. But then I'm straight myself. I don't want to presume I represent the whole potential audience. *waits to see if there's more to the MM shipper audience than meets the eye* |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 21:11:01 GMT
So William was right and Julia found the corset where no man would think to look....... sooooooooo she found it in the _________? her body. The seamstresses body. Hence, 'You won't find it there' when told they were searching her home. And that's why Murdoch knocked her purse to the ground to see if she could pick it up. I have to call political foul here. William had no problem asking the black woman to undress IN FRONT OF HIM in season one. While she was crying! Ovation even made a sleazy teaser out of that thinking this made William look like James Bond. Now no man would ever THINK to ask the seamstress to remove her dress to check her corset. And in the Station House, William has to call in Julia to get the corset from the seamstress? That's not only a loophole, it's a potentially racist one. Ahem. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jan 27, 2015 21:16:05 GMT
I didn't get where you were going with that until the end. Well played. I'm feeling some political guilt about my inclinations here. While I'm intellectually for this relationship, I'd prefer any intimacies take place off screen, too. But then I'm straight myself. I don't want to presume I represent the whole potential audience. *waits to see if there's more to the MM shipper audience than meets the eye* I wouldn't have a problem with seeing them 'intimate' except I don't like Lilian Moss much anymore and I've started to like Emily, so I don't really want to watch them together together. Maybe she'll improve on me but it's not likely considering she's only got like four more eps or so. I can only imagine this relationship is going to crash and burn epically. |
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Post by snacky on Jan 27, 2015 21:20:26 GMT
.... Did you catch the exasperated look that Emily gave him when Julia was trying to get the tape measure in place. That's the first time we've seen Emily give William any type of look that would be exchanged between people that were friends. You all know what I think of LM, one of the reasons is the way she disses Julia. This is the second time she's called out Julia on her own turf, first in her office now in her own home. If it were me she'd have found herself on the floor by now, broken wrist or not! I was wondering if she didn't aquiesce to her parents wishes because of her leanings.... In the past William has been rather stern and demanding around Emily. If they have more camaraderie now, I wonder if it's because now that William is married he feels propriety is more preserved around Emily. He doesn't feel like there is a danger Emily or other people might perceive him as flirting with her. He might have even been worried about being tempted by her himself since she is pretty, and I'm sure he's attracted by her scientific skills. Her place in the morgue would have reminded him of Julia when Julia was unobtainable. Now, however, Emily is "safe". (Unless Julia becomes jealous.) Now that it's been revealed that Lillian was denied her chance to pursue an engineering degree, this explains why she resents the fact that Julia did have the opportunities that she didn't (both the money and the education) - but she chose to "limit" herself by marriage. I've mentioned several times that a theory was going around that marriage had actually held women back in a Eugenic/Darwinian way. |
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That said, I've now decided that Lemily should get married. If William and Julia's marriage is an example, then marriage will put the kabosh on our having to endure any kissing or other intimate scenes between them. 
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