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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 6:06:57 GMT
And the other thing that bugged me about this ep is that Hamilton didn't protest the 'pro' wrestling coming to Toronto! There would have been so much funny there! I guess they only have so much time in an ep... Oh in the other thread I mixed up Hamilton with Edna. (I must be knocking back too much wine myself...). It seemed odd that Edna would be into wrestling. But you're also right about Hamilton. It sounds like they squandered her on the side plot when they could have reminded everyone what a pain in the ass the Temperance League has been in the past by having her opine about pro wrestling. And then to find out her man George has once again betrayed the public trust by participating...!  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 6:08:02 GMT
And also, what does CBC mean by George leading his FIRST murder investigation? There's been several throughout the series, not to mention when Murdoch was in the Yukon...did they just say this to make it seem like him solving this 'first' case was the reason he was only NOW being promoted?? Noob Intern wrote that?  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 6:09:17 GMT
And also, what does CBC mean by George leading his FIRST murder investigation? There's been several throughout the series, not to mention when Murdoch was in the Yukon...did they just say this to make it seem like him solving this 'first' case was the reason he was only NOW being promoted?? Unless what they meant by this is that George took the lead and William stood back. In the past George has only taken on a case when William wasn't there. On another note, this was the first time I agreed with Lillian! Still don't like her though....  She will grow on you!  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 6:11:52 GMT
It hurt to agree with Lillian, but she turned out to be right in the end......I thought it was really cute when the 3 were having their sherry or wine and Jean Hamilton came in......Julia downed hers, Emily and Lillian discreetly hid their glasses........It was also cute when William crossed himself as George entered the ring.....
Cheers
Hmm that vaguely reminds me of some other inappropriate time William crossed himself - was it the curling? God must raise an eyebrow when Catholics cross themselves to win at sports... |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 17, 2015 6:22:40 GMT
Unless what they meant by this is that George took the lead and William stood back. In the past George has only taken on a case when William wasn't there. On another note, this was the first time I agreed with Lillian! Still don't like her though.... She will grow on you! NO SHE WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 6:34:56 GMT
She will grow on you! NO SHE WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still can't watch the episode. It's been swapped with High Voltage everywhere.  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 7:55:57 GMT
Finally got to see the ep, and I am confused about the motive for the murder. Also I'm confused about why Simon saw the Cossack if the assistant guy was the murderer. Once again I found the the suffragette plot echoing political issues in the US, but I suppose similar problems with making too many compromises to win elections must happen in Canada, too. I was surprised to realize the "Election" episode is the one before the last. Somehow I got it into my head that the end of the season would be a two-parter mirroring the start of the season. Perhaps it's because William getting beat up by baddies mirrors what happened to Brackenreid. It would be odd if they EXACTLY mirrored the same cliffhanger, though. It's not like they can allow William's life to hang in the balance, though. If we know there is going to be a season 9 already, the answer to the question of will William live can only be: duh. But I do remember some suggestions of dark things ahead, and the season was supposed to end with a "killer" of an episode. A serial killer? Of course they haven't blown up Station House 4 yet. That's totally going to happen one of these days - wait and see! Anyway, back to CrabtreeMania. I don't think William stepped out of it enough. It still seemed like he was leading the case - George just got to talk more. In general I thought the idea was good and was initially charted out well - but then it seemed to be hastily finished, as if the script were ripped out of the writers hands before they were done and perhaps finished up in the studio by a few production assistants. I think it would have been a better episode if it had a little more time to "bake" before it was turned in. One last comment: who else thinks Simon is a little young to be paying such close attention to muscly men? |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 17, 2015 12:27:57 GMT
She will grow on you! NO SHE WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she dies soon, can I sing "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead"? |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 17, 2015 12:41:29 GMT
Only saw it once so these are first impressions: I laughed a lot! Particularly hilarious: the dual screen shots of the Crabtree wrestling match ( I never watch pro wrestling but I assume that is a trick they use), and the argument between the Inspector and his wife on the phone, I loved Julia and Emily making up over shots of whisky. Still the same complaint as Barbarama: no Jilliam at all! I guess we can't expect any at all for the rest of this season! I did like the mystery, particularly how the manager kept foiling their best attempts to entrap him. Usually people are not that defiant once confronted with evidence, or usually the good detective catches on sooner. It was his defiance that kept their suspicion on him rather than his lackey. So, just finished the episode, and I liked it fine. No complaints other than there was no Jilliam, but at this point, I'm just going to hope that they have a plan...because if they don't....  I'm with Barbarama in that I'm tired of seeing seperate men's and women's plots, but have given up hope for anything different this season. Hopefully they reintegrate everyone next season, but am also not getting my hopes up too much. I did love Gedna this ep-particularly at the end when she brought him the chair and later when he hoisted her up on his shoulder-nice.  George is the man! How could you demand a return to Gemily when you get moments like that? I like Emily, and I like George-but that doesn't mean they have to hook up. Of course, the writer's seem so hellbent on not giving us what we want, they're delivering the opposite in many regards. Maybe we should demand a return to Gemily... Loved Julia and Emily doing shots together-nice touch! Can't wait to see what George will be doing in regards to his future-he's just been nominated, correct? It's no sure thing he has it yet-or does he? Smooth move with William at the end. All in all, a nice episode, but not great. Maybe the last two of the season will deliver! |
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Post by barbarama on Mar 17, 2015 17:33:20 GMT
I don't like Lillian as well so I don't want to see her as a replacement at all!!!
As for Jonny the show people are talking about is "Of All Places" (although I think the title is still in development), it is the comedy thing he's doing in small towns all over Canada, it was supposed to be programmed in the winter but now has been postponed to the summer. Jonny was filming that before and while doing MM so I'm not worried about him not returning as George or in Station 4, I think something is cooking on that end I just don't know what yet.
And don't get me started on the lack of William & Julia, I'm developing passive-aggressive infuriation about it x( . I don't know what the writers were thinking but they are so wrong in the way they have handled the post-wedding it is not even funny. I don't have much hope for the rest of season 8 so I'm just crossing fingers that the writing team has taken notes of our comments, posts, complaints, pleas etc... in the different social medias and they will fix that in season 9. If the show had been cancelled after this season I would be fuming with anger right now on how we've been let down but I'll go back to my positive self and hoping for some serious improvements in season 9.
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 19:45:43 GMT
NO SHE WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If she dies soon, can I sing "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead"? Some day Lillian is going to be redeemed and you all are going to think, "Well, she maybe she wasn't so bad after all..."  |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 19:55:08 GMT
Of course, the writer's seem so hellbent on not giving us what we want, they're delivering the opposite in many regards. Maybe we should demand a return to Gemily... Loved Julia and Emily doing shots together-nice touch! Can't wait to see what George will be doing in regards to his future-he's just been nominated, correct? It's no sure thing he has it yet-or does he? lol at the reverse psychology! The separate male/female plots have become totally unfathomable to me. I still think it's because when the whole season was plotted out, no one stood back and thought about how this would A) look to viewers who had been hooked on the show by Jilliam moments, and B) the effect this would have on the mysteries when their time had already been trimmed by the move to CBC. Time to get back in a huddle and review the playbook! I loved Julia's hidden whiskey, too! It makes me wonder if she hides whiskey in the hotel room. What secrets does she keep from William? William doesn't preach to her about drinking in front of him, but does she ever get outright drunk? William looked cute in his driver's cap at the end! It's great he and George are so in tune that he knew what George was trying to tell him under duress. Regarding George being "put forward" - I think that means he has the job. He's a pretty high ranking Freemason, after all! |
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Post by murdochic on Mar 17, 2015 20:11:39 GMT
Unless the actor is leaving the show then George won't be a detective. He's not going to move station and they don't need a 2nd detective at Station house No. 4.
George and Edna were really cute in this episode, I like Edna's personality. It was weird how they basically ignored Emily and Lillian being together, though I think Julia has picked up hints. Emily was right about the Temperance league and I'm surprised Julia even considered it.
Julia and Emily need more to do than this election storyline, I'm glad it'll be out of the way next season. And I wish they'd have at least one scene of W/J interaction each episode, it feels wrong when they don't have it.
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 20:18:36 GMT
And don't get me started on the lack of William & Julia, I'm developing passive-aggressive infuriation about it x( . I don't know what the writers were thinking but they are so wrong in the way they have handled the post-wedding it is not even funny. I don't have much hope for the rest of season 8 so I'm just crossing fingers that the writing team has taken notes of our comments, posts, complaints, pleas etc... in the different social medias and they will fix that in season 9. If the show had been cancelled after this season I would be fuming with anger right now on how we've been let down but I'll go back to my positive self and hoping for some serious improvements in season 9. This season has most definitely been "manhandled". Or perhaps "man-fumbled". I really hate to say it because I don't want anything blamed on the "wedding curse" if MM starts to lose audience share after this season. Because it will have NOTHING to do with the wedding if people do lose interest. The problem, as Fallenbelle has neatly put it, was the construction of separate male and female storylines. This not only subtracted a lot of Jilliam from the series (when everyone was expecting at least a little "romance within marriage"), it subtracted from the time the writers were able to give to the mysteries as well. While suffrage was an important historical note to hit, this structural idea was an utter Lose-Lose, and I do worry it's going to be labeled as a "wedding curse" in retrospect when it was just bad (male-think) season planning. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 17, 2015 20:29:30 GMT
Unless the actor is leaving the show then George won't be a detective. He's not going to move station and they don't need a 2nd detective at Station house No. 4. George and Edna were really cute in this episode, I like Edna's personality. It was weird how they basically ignored Emily and Lillian being together, though I think Julia has picked up hints. Emily was right about the Temperance league and I'm surprised Julia even considered it. Julia and Emily need more to do than this election storyline, I'm glad it'll be out of the way next season. And I wish they'd have at least one scene of W/J interaction each episode, it feels wrong when they don't have it. ITA, it feels wrong without Jilliam. Perhaps the writers were hoping to substitute other romances(?), but for the moment this is still the show Jilliam built, and that audience isn't just going to transfer that interest over to Gedna. As cute as George and Edna are, that romance is still of a different type to me. George will always be the slightly humorous sidekick rather than the romantic lead. Therefore his romance is also slightly humorous and does not feel like the "heroic lead romance" to me. I don't think there is anything the writers can do to change that, though I have to congratulate them on coming up with some very cute scenes for George and Edna. The viewers seem to be experiencing these as something that happens as "aside" from the main plot, though...because William is still who the show is supposed to be about. I agree that it will be great when the suffrage arc is finally done. However Lillian's one line about women obtaining rights equal to men was right on the mark. I'll be bummed if she goes off to pursue more radical suffrage work (which I suspect she will) and won't be on hand to make those trenchant observations. |
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George is the man! How could you demand a return to Gemily when you get moments like that? I like Emily, and I like George-but that doesn't mean they have to hook up. Of course, the writer's seem so hellbent on not giving us what we want, they're delivering the opposite in many regards. Maybe we should demand a return to Gemily... 
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