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Post by lizmc on Mar 26, 2015 6:12:21 GMT
I use Twitter mostly for little historical snippets that get posted......interesting snippet for today: 1 in 10 Canadians are descended from British Home Children....... That doesn't surprise me. I can say without a doubt though that I'm not one of them!  I know I'm not one of them too, but I am surprised the ratio is that high.........Growing up, one of our neighbours was a Home Child, specifically, a Bernardo Boy......he was one of the success stories, ironically enough, because he had been born with a withered arm....because of that, there was no way he could do physical labour, so there was no point in sending him to a farm.....he was placed in a family in Toronto, with a lawyer for a foster father.....not sure if he was ever formally adopted, but he was raised as one of their own and put through university and law school, and did rather well for himself.....unfortunately, I gather he was an exception..... |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:14:12 GMT
Is this the angst fic? Gimme gimme gimme! Chapter 1 was a season 8 slamdunk! Wouldn't Julia's pushiness just confirm William's "stud service" impression there? Maybe William needs to work on articulating what he wants. In chapter 1 he was "trying" a lot, but the reciprocity he wanted wasn't all that clear (besides Julia actually showing up for special dinners).  Also they might just need a Deus Ex Machina - re: Julia gets pregnant, William gets run over by a paddy wagon - you know, the sort of thing that gets people to stop being petty.  Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed. I rejected some comments from Julia haters because that was never my intention. Which is why William is rebuffing her efforts to seduce him. He's being sulky. Hence my problem, both need to talk but he's huffy, and she's so devastated she just wants to be physically near him. Neither are articulating very well. Gah! These two! LOL! She should knock him out and tie him up! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 26, 2015 6:14:44 GMT
Tell me about it. I'm trying to write a sequel/continuation to my most recent, and it's just not happening. William wants to argue while Julia wants to skip to the makeup sex. I'm trying to reconcile the two and not having the best luck.  Is this the angst fic? Gimme gimme gimme! I can send it to you when I get home, but you may regret it. It's a bit of a mess right now, but commentary would be welcome! |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:16:44 GMT
That doesn't surprise me. I can say without a doubt though that I'm not one of them! I know I'm not one of them too, but I am surprised the ratio is that high.........Growing up, one of our neighbours was a Home Child, specifically, a Bernardo Boy......he was one of the success stories, ironically enough, because he had been born with a withered arm....because of that, there was no way he could do physical labour, so there was no point in sending him to a farm.....he was placed in a family in Toronto, with a lawyer for a foster father.....not sure if he was ever formally adopted, but he was raised as one of their own and put through university and law school, and did rather well for himself.....unfortunately, I gather he was an exception..... It was a tough life. You have to wonder if they'd have been better off left in England. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 26, 2015 6:17:35 GMT
Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed. I rejected some comments from Julia haters because that was never my intention. Which is why William is rebuffing her efforts to seduce him. He's being sulky. Hence my problem, both need to talk but he's huffy, and she's so devastated she just wants to be physically near him. Neither are articulating very well. Gah! These two! There are Julia haters reading this fic?  I did feel Julia sounded kind of selfish during the argument at William's departure, but then canon suggests Julia is a little selfish and William is a bit of a doormat when it comes to Julia. Also, I'm allowing for a hangover! Anyway, the balance of the apologizing should be on her side, IMHO - but William is also failing to communicate what he wants from the relationship and is not accepting Julia's actual feelings. He should take responsibility for his half of that misunderstanding. Until the MM writers fix whatever went on with this season, I'm allowing you to write the unofficial backstory. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 26, 2015 6:19:07 GMT
Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed. I rejected some comments from Julia haters because that was never my intention. Which is why William is rebuffing her efforts to seduce him. He's being sulky. Hence my problem, both need to talk but he's huffy, and she's so devastated she just wants to be physically near him. Neither are articulating very well. Gah! These two! LOL! She should knock him out and tie him up! This is getting kinky. Is it wrong that I'm curious about how that would turn out? You know the big irony there is the Victorian perspective would be William had failed to show a certain amount of masterfulness over his wife and he just needed to put his foot down to rectify the situation. But maybe her putting her foot down works just as well. |
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Post by lizmc on Mar 26, 2015 6:21:41 GMT
I know I'm not one of them too, but I am surprised the ratio is that high.........Growing up, one of our neighbours was a Home Child, specifically, a Bernardo Boy......he was one of the success stories, ironically enough, because he had been born with a withered arm....because of that, there was no way he could do physical labour, so there was no point in sending him to a farm.....he was placed in a family in Toronto, with a lawyer for a foster father.....not sure if he was ever formally adopted, but he was raised as one of their own and put through university and law school, and did rather well for himself.....unfortunately, I gather he was an exception..... It was a tough life. You have to wonder if they'd have been better off left in England. Kind of a toss up, I'd say......the circumstances they came from were pretty grim, but then the circumstances some of them landed in were pretty grim......a number of the initial recruits for WWI were Home Children who saw it as a ticket home, thinking the war would end before they saw any action......got that wrong....... |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:21:58 GMT
Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed. I rejected some comments from Julia haters because that was never my intention. Which is why William is rebuffing her efforts to seduce him. He's being sulky. Hence my problem, both need to talk but he's huffy, and she's so devastated she just wants to be physically near him. Neither are articulating very well. Gah! These two! There are Julia haters reading this fic? I did feel Julia sounded kind of selfish during the argument at William's departure, but then canon suggests Julia is a little selfish and William is a bit of a doormat when it comes to Julia. Also, I'm allowing for a hangover! Anyway, the balance of the apologizing should be on her side, IMHO - but William is also failing to communicate what he wants from the relationship and is not accepting Julia's actual feelings. He should take responsibility for his half of that misunderstanding. Until the MM writers fix whatever went on with this season, I'm allowing you to write the unofficial backstory. Well it seems to me that neither of them are communicating well but William is at a major disadvantage here as he's never been able to communicate his feelings. In all 8 seasons he's only ever told Julia he loves her once. Maybe Julia has to reach out to him here. There again, I think Julia may only have said it once too however she can communicate her feelings if she wants to. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:23:16 GMT
LOL! She should knock him out and tie him up! This is getting kinky. Is it wrong that I'm curious about how that would turn out? You know the big irony there is the Victorian perspective would be William had failed to show a certain amount of masterfulness over his wife and he just needed to put his foot down to rectify the situation. But maybe her putting her foot down works just as well. We know who's going to have to take the lead here. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 26, 2015 6:24:27 GMT
Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed. I rejected some comments from Julia haters because that was never my intention. Which is why William is rebuffing her efforts to seduce him. He's being sulky. Hence my problem, both need to talk but he's huffy, and she's so devastated she just wants to be physically near him. Neither are articulating very well. Gah! These two! LOL! She should knock him out and tie him up! She's considering desperate measures. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 26, 2015 6:33:28 GMT
Well it seems to me that neither of them are communicating well but William is at a major disadvantage here as he's never been able to communicate his feelings. In all 8 seasons he's only ever told Julia he loves her once. Maybe Julia has to reach out to him here. There again, I think Julia may only have said it once too however she can communicate her feelings if she wants to. Yes it does seem like as a trained psychiatrist Julia would have the skills to get William to sit down and talk about it. She might even get a shot at psychoanalyzing him again! (As long as she doesn't start delving into his fear of butterflies - grrr). If Julia can discuss the joys of being liberated from her corset, I think she can discuss her feelings - especially now that she's already married to William. There's no longer any risk attached to confessing love to someone who might not return those feelings. I don't think this is about emotion, though. I think this is about what actions William expects to see to confirm, to his satisfaction, how Julia feels. And if William really is going overboard (I'm not sure that he is with their busy schedules, though), then Julia might be burdened with a lot of guilt for not being able to keep up with William's shows of affection. By the way, I'm wondering what Julia's professional aspirations are now that she is working in the asylum. She seems to be just treading water there. |
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Post by snacky on Mar 26, 2015 6:35:00 GMT
LOL! She should knock him out and tie him up! She's considering desperate measures. But does that involve comandeering William's handcuffs? After all, he did threaten to leave without hearing her out... At this point we've either: A) Scared TPTB off, or B) Given them an idea for a very "edgy" scene.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Mar 26, 2015 6:44:59 GMT
There are Julia haters reading this fic? I did feel Julia sounded kind of selfish during the argument at William's departure, but then canon suggests Julia is a little selfish and William is a bit of a doormat when it comes to Julia. Also, I'm allowing for a hangover! Anyway, the balance of the apologizing should be on her side, IMHO - but William is also failing to communicate what he wants from the relationship and is not accepting Julia's actual feelings. He should take responsibility for his half of that misunderstanding. Until the MM writers fix whatever went on with this season, I'm allowing you to write the unofficial backstory. Well it seems to me that neither of them are communicating well but William is at a major disadvantage here as he's never been able to communicate his feelings. In all 8 seasons he's only ever told Julia he loves her once. Maybe Julia has to reach out to him here. There again, I think Julia may only have said it once too however she can communicate her feelings if she wants to. No, they're not. But I don't want to make it a laundry list either. Hence, my struggle. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:47:28 GMT
She's considering desperate measures. But does that involve comandeering William's handcuffs? After all, he did threaten to leave without hearing her out... At this point we've either: A) Scared TPTB off, or B) Given them an idea for a very "edgy" scene. I truly don't believe there are tensions I think they've forgotten to pay proper attention to the relationship as there was so much other stuff going on, including another relationship that they seemed to think more important. Of course it wasn't and now we're left with two problems to fix. |
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Post by Hodge on Mar 26, 2015 6:50:02 GMT
Well it seems to me that neither of them are communicating well but William is at a major disadvantage here as he's never been able to communicate his feelings. In all 8 seasons he's only ever told Julia he loves her once. Maybe Julia has to reach out to him here. There again, I think Julia may only have said it once too however she can communicate her feelings if she wants to. No, they're not. But I don't want to make it a laundry list either. Hence, my struggle. Perhaps one of them and I think it will have to be Julia, will have to come to their senses, put their pride aside and make the first move. Even if she has to do something drastic to make William listen. Or send him a note but he's not too good at working that out either. |
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