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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 24, 2014 23:06:27 GMT
William talked about condoms in the Green Muse, so he has obviously used them. He is not a virgin. Him and Julia have clearly been lovers. Maybe there is a succession of misunderstandings in The Green Muse episode: - when William said that Mrs KITCHEN didn't allow him to receive "love" visits from women. It was a way for him to avoid being alone with Julia in a private place and therefore he avoided admitting that he was still a virgin because of his beliefs. - William was under the influence of the absinthe and therefore he was losing his self-control and inhibitions. And he became more mischievous. That's why Julia asked him if he had precaution (even if she knew that she was sterile*). She was also under the influence of the absinthe and his desire for her and his impulses of affection made her think that he was not a virgin but she was wrong. (*She learned as a doctor and as a woman who had a very bad experience in her life all what we should know about contraceptives. Using a prophylactic is a way to avoid an unwanted pregancy but also a protection against sexually transmitted diseases or infections (STDI). If Julia thought that William was not a virgin, it would mean that he had sexual relations with other women and as she couldn't be sure they used precautions, she didn't want to take the risk to get a STDI). - what William meant when he said to Julia that he didn't think that he didn't need condoms. Maybe it was for him an implicitly way to say to her that he is a practising Catholic and as such, he didn't intend to a have sexual intercourse with her. - when she asked him if he had precaution, it was for her a way to say to him that she was agreed to go further if he was willing and of course, only if they used a condom. He was then surprised by her open-minded about sharing a intimate moment with him outside of a marriage relationship and in plus at their first date. That's why he said: how very modern of you! - to finish, they both agree to wait for an other chance but the reasons of their decision were not the same and that it was a wise choice for this night. When he said "not tonight", he surely meant once they get married. Indeed the very next he started courting her. Moreover, at the end of the episode, they both admitted to have feelings for each other. And William proposed her to keep dating and she agreed. This evening, they certainly didn't see The Green Muse but they saw into each other's eyes the passion and the love that they felt for each other.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 20:54:12 GMT
I just find out that Carco had already shared the link in "Spotted: Magic Hambourg Protective Powers Down" thread.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 19:31:22 GMT
I meant this thread in general not that priceless fan vid from yesterday. No I don't think so...but do not read comments/replies when you have any doubt about an possible spoiler.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 19:28:05 GMT
The writers of MURDOCH MYSTERIES suggested some scripts as an obstacle to the wedding of Julia and William; the first is Anna.
Regarding William's feelings toward Anna: he seemed extremely pleased to see her, and extremely disappointed that she was engaged at the start of The Black Hand. I think he was at least willing to try dating her once Julia was engaged, and he was supposed to be dating other women.
But do you think William was in love with Anna? According to me, at any time he loves Anna and it's also hard for me to think that he could play with the feelings of a woman and/or that he could make love to a woman without love. He is a gentleman; he has respect women. So what to think about their relationship?
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 18:46:28 GMT
Plus, snacky gets her question answered. He takes the hat off. You should watch the morgue scene with more attention! It's Julia who takes William's hat from his head and throws it away.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 18:22:13 GMT
Yes he has more imagination than the writers of MURDOCH MYSTERIES in order to please William/Julia shippers. His approach is rather direct to broach the subject. I know! The morgue scene cracked me up! It's more than the real show would ever give. Maybe I should have mentioned: "Do not watch if you are under 18 years of age". LOL.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 1:49:16 GMT
LOL LOL LOL!No seriously, that was great! Loved the morgue scene...and poor Mr. Pendrick. Yes he has more imagination than the writers of MURDOCH MYSTERIES in order to please William/Julia shippers. His approach is rather direct to broach the subject.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 1:41:47 GMT
You can certainly watch that vid. It's done in Lego by a 10 year old boy. It's adorable and no spoilers. Enjoy! He recites replies with the good intonations in his voice; we can recognize the way that each characters speak up.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 1:28:33 GMT
How spoilery is this thread? After the jilliam wedding stuff I didn't want to know anything more about S8...but now I feel really left out. :/ Don't worry, you can watch it. If there were spoilers, I would have warned people before. I used inverted commas in order to mean that this "new all episode" was not a real one. So like lovemondays said: enjoy!
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 21, 2014 21:31:18 GMT
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 21, 2014 18:50:43 GMT
I saw that on Facebook: nasty writers trying to get us all riled up! As if this Fanship needs to get more crazy! Personally I think Anna has too much respect for William to try to stop his wedding. Unless she undergoes a serious personality change she would put his happiness ahead of hers and realize that Julia is the one and only for him. A terrible thought just occurred to me though: what if she got pregnant with his child during the Stroll on the Wild duo? Yikes! You have perfectly summarized what I've been thinking for a long time in two clear, concize sentences. THANK YOU! If Anna came back to TORONTO, she wouldn't come back to purposefully stop the wedding but just to see William, no matter the risks involved, because she loves him and she misses him. Indeed, the last time Anna saw William and Julia, he was a single man and she was married to Darcy. She has no way of knowing that William is now engaged and more importantly, he is engaged to Julia. Anna has certainly not bad intentions but Julia and William both agree to say that -I quote- women in love can be quite tenacious. About a possible comeback of Anna with a child: there is NO WAY! Je refuse! (If) -it depends on your own opinion- William is not a virgin, he remains a responsible man so: - he couldn't have slept with Anna because he was fully aware that she must leave the town sooner or later. Therefore he couldn't have taken the risk to get her pregnant without being sure to be able/present to face the consequences of his actions in case of an unexpected pregancy. OR - he could have used a precaution. (And this raises contradictions if he did because he is a detective and a practising Catholic and contraceptives are forbidden, legally and by the Church. However I will not go any further -you surely know what I mean- and I will focuse my attention on the fact that William is a responsible man). In "The Green Muse" episode, he said that he hadn't taken a prophylactic with him because he didn't think that he would have needed one. It suggests that he understands that making love is by no means anodyne. How very a modern man he is? Isn't he?
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 20, 2014 17:01:21 GMT
About the dress: well I hope they put her in something classy, and that all the stuff we're seeing is teasers. Call me hopelessly optimistic. I agree with you -you hopelessly optimistic! - I want to see Julia wearing an elegant wedding dress and having a sophisticated hairdo -I think it's also very important - but it seems to be complicated and after seeing some pictures, I would say that this is not a good start.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 20, 2014 16:27:38 GMT
Has anyone else noticed how relaxed William is with Anna? When he was in Bristol he was actually normal and didn't seem to have any sexual hang-ups with her as I recall and in "A Walk on the Wild Side" he was very matter of fact about their relationship. The scene where they had dinner together appeared as though they were in either his rooms and they seemed so natural together. In a way they were a much better as a couple, but then we wouldn't have the "dramatic tension" to deal with. If I may talk about the Stroll on the Wild eps.: I just watched them and yes I did certainly notice that William and Anna are quite cosy at dinner. The scene ends with a kiss and cuts to the next morning as William is late for work. He is very unhappy at the end, when she has to leave after the fake death scene. He was supposed to be grieving when the Black Hand guy was around but he continued to look stricken as he said his good byes. Does this mean that he and Anna did lots more than kiss? I think the writers want us to at least have the question in our minds. More fodder for the 40 year old virgin debate. I am inclined to think of William as not a virgin, but as a man of limited sexual experience who has a lot to learn. The writers of MURDOCH MYSTERIES suggested some scripts as an obstacle to the wedding of Julia and William; the first is Anna. www.facebook.com/MurdochOnCBC/photos/pb.278265358918600.-2207520000.1405263729./647509045327561/?type=1&theater-. Julia VS Anna: However she is a better rival than Enid -IMHO-, Anna has NO CHANCE and she was fully aware of it since she first met William in BRISTOL. (I also think that Anna couldn't fully accept to be in love with a man who loves with another woman, she respects herself . I liked this character.). William and Julia were a couple in "The MURDOCH Identity" episode:Yes, William was more relaxed with Anna, it could be explained by: - he was amnesic. He felt himself like another man; he was "Harry". - he met Anna outside his professional environment. - Anna is a pretty woman; she's friendly and pleasant and a far from timid young woman. - he was being chased by two men who wanted to kill him so he could have deduced that he came from the urban slums where the propriety was surely not his first concern. Moreover he didn't wear his jacket and his tie and he seemed to lost his hat too -which are the elements of a dress code- so he totally ignored -again!- the social class where he came from. BUT: - When William was kissing Anna, he stopped and he couldn't go further because he remembered Julia; he remembered her while he was amnesic and before remembering his true identity/who he was; a proof of his deep love -and respect- for her. - At the end, Anna couldn't deny that Harry was a little bit torn but William was eager to return to TORONTO and she said that admired his loyalty. - Despite the exceptional circumstances, he felt guilty of unfaithfulness. He was so ashamed of his little adventure than he hid it. Julia was engaged to Darcy in "The Black Hand" episode:- Anna cared for William's happiness and she seemed admit that he could be happy with Julia only and she referred to the way William spoke of Julia in BRISTOL, Anna had then the feeling they were destinated for each other. - Anna admitted to Julia that she was in love but she added that his heart belonged to another. - William is still in love with Julia. - At the end, William refused to see Anna again in order to protect their lives but I think he really meant to say goodbye to her good once for all. So -again!- Anna remained lucid about her love for William. Julia was married to Darcy in the "Stroll on the Wild Side" episode:Yes, William had dinner with Anna Fulford and they kissed. The very next day, Inspector BRACKENREID noticed that the very ponctual detective was late for the first time since he knew him. A way to tend us to think he had a "very good evening/night with a woman". BUT: - When Anna asked George what or rather who kept William back in TORONTO, we all knew the answer is Julia. - William can't stop loving Julia. - Anna didn't menage to convince William to leave TORONTO with her. We can't deny that William is attracted by Anna and we don't really know how William feels about her. But it would appear in any case that the love he feels for Julia is stronger than everything else. That's why it could be interesting to see how Julia could behave if she was jealous and she felt threatened/challenged by Anna and how she could make Anna understand that William belongs to her. We know they are both in love with William so they could fight for him. Of course, William wouldn't notice anything or rather he would notice that they both give more attention to him but he wouldn't understand the reason why. Indeed he is so in love with Julia than it would be unthinkable for him that another woman could be interested by him. It also could be interesting to see how Julia could prove that she still deserves the love of William after all the pain she put him through.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 19, 2014 14:31:47 GMT
I haven't had time to read all of your comments and maybe you have ever seen this picture and even shared a link but if you haven't/didn't... themurdochmysteries.tumblr.com/image/92179746563. But why is William so hasty? Answer from Hélène JOY on Twitter: /photo/1. I liked the comment of Matt young. I quote: "Hands off Murdoch lol". And one homburg for Snacky! /photo/1.
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 15, 2014 18:22:49 GMT
I think snacky was wondering if Julia had a partial hysterectomy rather than a complete one; or was Dr. Tash able to use a cauterization technique to stop the bleeding before it got to a point where she would have to have a hysterectomy. We still have NO idea what Julia's statement "I almost died" really meant. Yes, I don't think it was confirmed that Julia had a complete hysterectomy. I'm sure it's not really necessary to precise it and no doubt that you already know: I am not a doctor! ;-) A hysterectomy, even partial, makes women sterile. Dr TASH could have used silver nitrate (chimical which should be applied with accurary, very careful on mucous membranes for no longer than necessary) to cauterize the wounds of her uterus. It could have worked -and avoided a hysterectomy- or not. It depends on how bad the injury was and how much damage it did. And yes we have no details about what it really did happen to Julia. When she said that she almost died, I made - logical or at least seemed to be logical according to me- assumptions (and some deductions) based on what I know about "abortion" at this time and about "hysterectomy" as well because she said that it left her sterile. When I read your comment (I quote: "I would rather have Julia work on overcoming her infertility, since that's a medical mystery"), I just wanted to propose a situation in which she could still have a chance to be pregnant. But it would seem that my reasoning posed problem. And now I'm not sure to have well understood your comment.
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