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Post by bookworm1225 on Oct 23, 2015 17:04:47 GMT
Since MM is not on tonight I have watched Marked Twain several times and most specifically for the accent and mumbling by Shatner. I honestly did not notice any of that as I found his accent and dialogue quite understandable and very authentic. Since I am from the Southwest US and have traveled all over the south and Missouri perhaps my ear did not find it difficult. I thought Shatner was right on target. Shatner's Mark Twain reminded me very strongly of a Twain character that appeared in the original Star Trek series (and no, I can't remember the title of that ep because my ST geekiness does not come near to surpassing my MM geekiness!) Maybe Shatner was working off of that. I was only so-so on this episode. The (s)nobs at the Empire Club were SO annoying. It's embarrassing to accept that the portrayal was likely fairly accurate. Henry was batting George over the head but it's nothing that George hasn't done many times in the past. All he has to do is completely steal the scene like he did as the bartender. I am chomping at the bit to see the next 2 episodes. TPTB are really good at making the trailers get us thinking one way then the ep delivers a knockout punch that we didn't see. It was Star Trek: The Next Generation, actually. The two-parter 'Time's Arrow,' which was the last episode of Season 5 and the first episode of Season 6. (Yeah, I've got some Star Trek geekiness. *grin*) I agree that what Henry was doing to George wasn't much more than what George has done to Henry over the years. But, I think, enough more that yeah, he'll get some comeuppance. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 24, 2015 6:33:37 GMT
It was Star Trek: The Next Generation, actually. The two-parter 'Time's Arrow,' which was the last episode of Season 5 and the first episode of Season 6. (Yeah, I've got some Star Trek geekiness. *grin*) Ooh, I just flashed on this. Was it the one set in old San Francisco with the Ophidian (snake) aliens? |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Oct 24, 2015 14:36:22 GMT
It was Star Trek: The Next Generation, actually. The two-parter 'Time's Arrow,' which was the last episode of Season 5 and the first episode of Season 6. (Yeah, I've got some Star Trek geekiness. *grin*) Ooh, I just flashed on this. Was it the one set in old San Francisco with the Ophidian (snake) aliens? You got it! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 24, 2015 17:39:01 GMT
So, I just finished re-watching this, and I have to say, Twain's bit about the "White Man's Burden" and Imperialism (be it American or European) was quite a nice touch. Also, I love how it brings up the idea that one can still love their country yet find fault with it- a very modern idea. I liked the character development there as Brackenreid himself perhaps moved away from being a 19th century man towards being a man of the 20th century as William already has with his marriage and his integration of his beliefs in regards to science, religion, and social matters to that of a peaceful co-existence. Nicely done, MM.  |
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Post by omgurl40 on Nov 22, 2015 2:41:41 GMT
Good episode. The mystery took second place to the characters in this episode, I think. Bit of a deus ex machine at the end. Personally, I didn't find it difficult to understand Shatner as Clemons and I really enjoyed how the writers brought out some of the very radical thoughts that Clemons had as well as the very real issues of money he had to deal with in his later life.
Henry was quite the jerk and had better be careful about pilfering on the job. He's getting some of his own back from George for the past but is being very harsh about it. He'd better be careful or it's going to backfire on him.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Sept 6, 2016 4:59:07 GMT
I decided to rewatch season nine before the start of season 10, and this episode, while not terrible, is certainly not a great one. It's a shame that the opportunity of having William Shattner was squandered so... In viewing it again, it struck me that both William and Brax are owned by their wives - and not only do they both know it, they more or less admit as much to one another a few different times throughout the ep. Bit of a dichotomy from High Voltage where Brax tells William to remember who wears the trousers - from this episode, it seems that neither does. Yep, Henry was being a major jerk about his new promotion, but I love that George didn't get mad, he got even, and played Henry for the fool. Nicely done, George! Even William gets in on it and trolls him as been "working hard".  I just caught that George undercover as the bartender gave his name as Samuel Langhorne...Mark Twain's real name. Nice one, MM. Julia had some fantastic lines in this episode, including: "Plans are for the old...That's why I've never made any." Julia Ogden. This is my new life mantra. "William, you sound like a phonograph that's become stuck." "Any time anyone in Toronto suggests something anything progressive, half the city is up in arms!" Ooh, that look William gave Julia after the shooting. No, he didn't say "I told you so" verbally, but that look! Of course, her eyeroll in response was also great. The sass was strong in this ep. As I said, overall, not a stellar ep...but I didn't hate it either. Meh. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 17, 2016 22:56:49 GMT
I decided to rewatch season nine before the start of season 10, and this episode, while not terrible, is certainly not a great one. It's a shame that the opportunity of having William Shattner was squandered so... In viewing it again, it struck me that both William and Brax are owned by their wives - and not only do they both know it, they more or less admit as much to one another a few different times throughout the ep. Bit of a dichotomy from High Voltage where Brax tells William to remember who wears the trousers - from this episode, it seems that neither does. Yep, Henry was being a major jerk about his new promotion, but I love that George didn't get mad, he got even, and played Henry for the fool. Nicely done, George! Even William gets in on it and trolls him as been "working hard". I just caught that George undercover as the bartender gave his name as Samuel Langhorne...Mark Twain's real name. Nice one, MM. Julia had some fantastic lines in this episode, including: "Plans are for the old...That's why I've never made any." Julia Ogden. This is my new life mantra. "William, you sound like a phonograph that's become stuck." "Any time anyone in Toronto suggests something anything progressive, half the city is up in arms!" Ooh, that look William gave Julia after the shooting. No, he didn't say "I told you so" verbally, but that look! Of course, her eyeroll in response was also great. The sass was strong in this ep. As I said, overall, not a stellar ep...but I didn't hate it either. Meh. I actually didn't mind this episode and thought WS did a passable job as Mark Twain despite the obvious differences in appearance. I got the impression he'd done his homework. He CAN be a good actor when he puts his mind to it. I too loved Julia's lines, some of the best she's had. As for the look W gave Julia I thought it was wonderful and Brackenreid noticed that he didn't need to say anything to chastise her. |
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Post by gwenkb on Aug 1, 2017 5:48:04 GMT
William Shatner was excellent as Mark Twain. He really surprised me.
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