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Post by norakles on Nov 16, 2015 23:02:05 GMT
Really approving of the marriage this season: I don't think there's been any overboard fan service: it's blending into the show as it should. Hear, hear! And it does not hurt that W & J are working more closely together again. Also really approving (or appreciating  ) of having plenty of William in his shirtsleeves this season... |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 17, 2015 1:15:11 GMT
Now in the episode, when they are out searching for the alternate launch site, you see the Arrow in the background. BUT, around 25 minutes in, there are some slightly longer shots, and I swear I see twoo Arrows parked behind them. When they switch to the closer show I only see one. Thoughts? I've just watched that scene again multiple times. I don't see a second Bullet in either the close or long shots. The Bullet has 3 wheels. What may be catching you is the battery cells mounted on the back end because they disrupt the otherwise sleek profile of the vehicle. I guess we're back to the lap question.  CC--can you gif William's expressions when Pendrick shows him the gliding suits? The range of emotions Yannick portrays with just his face in those few seconds is brilliant, funny and perfectly in character. The scene is at minute 30 in the streamed version. Pleeeeese! Had some time to kill before the ep so they're there on my blog. Just click the link in my sig. And you're welcome. Didn't notice that he swallowed in nervousness...not from flying but from Julia finding out. Haha. Okay, just have them here:     |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 17, 2015 4:39:13 GMT
I've just watched that scene again multiple times. I don't see a second Bullet in either the close or long shots. The Bullet has 3 wheels. What may be catching you is the battery cells mounted on the back end because they disrupt the otherwise sleek profile of the vehicle. I guess we're back to the lap question. CC--can you gif William's expressions when Pendrick shows him the gliding suits? The range of emotions Yannick portrays with just his face in those few seconds is brilliant, funny and perfectly in character. The scene is at minute 30 in the streamed version. Pleeeeese! Had some time to kill before the ep so they're there on my blog. Just click the link in my sig. And you're welcome. Didn't notice that he swallowed in nervousness...not from flying but from Julia finding out. Haha. Okay, just have them here: I love you oh Video Goddess!  |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 18, 2015 0:57:59 GMT
So I think the "stretching of veracity" is part of the fun of this show. Somehow they succeed in teaching us about history while only loosely following real history. I have seen it as a sort of tongue in cheek nod to everything. Because of the great (mostly) acting and the clever handling of multiple characters and plots with subplots this show is great fun. I hope they continue to stretch plausibility until when get the vote. I'm thinking the Russian moon rocket scientist was real - so how do we know that people weren't inspired by Verne and experimenting with rockets a few decades before WWII. The Kennedy assassination was over 40 years ago - does that seem like an "age" ago or part of the modern world? I totally agree that MM can stretch things a bit for the sake of fun. But real hardasses can imagine that the entire episode was William daydreaming while he was reading that book in bed. After all, it ends with Julia calling him a hero and wanting to get it on... Also, if it's all a Jungian dream, Meyers and Clegg are still alive.  OH absolutely just when it doesn't seem possible the story line is plausible. However there are some tongue in cheek things that are so fun but very unlikely. That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it? As for the Kennedy era most kids today think of it long long ago. I absolutely want Clegg and Meyers to come back. They are so funny and awful at the same time. |
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Post by Oigirl on Nov 19, 2015 16:19:42 GMT
Now in the episode, when they are out searching for the alternate launch site, you see the Arrow in the background. BUT, around 25 minutes in, there are some slightly longer shots, and I swear I see twoo Arrows parked behind them. When they switch to the closer show I only see one. Thoughts? I've just watched that scene again multiple times. I don't see a second Bullet in either the close or long shots. The Bullet has 3 wheels. What may be catching you is the battery cells mounted on the back end because they disrupt the otherwise sleek profile of the vehicle. I guess we're back to the lap question. CC--can you gif William's expressions when Pendrick shows him the gliding suits? The range of emotions Yannick portrays with just his face in those few seconds is brilliant, funny and perfectly in character. The scene is at minute 30 in the streamed version. Pleeeeese! I just be seeing some kind of shadow in the longer shots then. I do wish I remembered if Craig's new car was a two seater - it would explain a lot. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 19, 2015 16:30:02 GMT
I just be seeing some kind of shadow in the longer shots then. I do wish I remembered if Craig's new car was a two seater - it would explain a lot. There isn't a new car, just the old one with a bit of a paint job. |
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Post by carco on Nov 20, 2015 17:41:31 GMT
I think you need to watch the episode before trying to comment on it snacky. I finally got to watch it, and I believe this ep was more than a little inspired from the Jules Verne episode: 1) Dreamy inventor thinks he's working on a moon rocket, when he's actually working on a rocket that will bomb a major city for political conspiracy purposes ----Check. 2) Moon rocket science has Russian origins ----Check. 3) There are two rockets - one aimed at the moon, one aimed at a city ----Check. 4) Someone gets tied to the mouth of the rocket cannon ----Check. 5) Someone rather than the intended astronaut/cosmonaut gets into the rocket and accidentally launched to the moon ----Check. 6) Not sure whether The Girl is in on it or not ----Check. Of course, you could also say Jules Verne is invoked in both. In the first, Jules Verne is inspired by the moon rocket escapade. In the second, the moon rocket escapade is inspired by Jules Verne. Really, that's too much of a coincidence -- especially the person getting tied to the cannon. But I'm willing to call it a homage, the same way that Annoying Red Planet was a homage to The X-Files. How freaky is it that I watched those Jules Verne episodes the week before this? I seem to have a weird blessing/curse when it comes to MM...     I believe it was Jules Verne meets Dr Strangelove. |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Nov 20, 2015 17:41:27 GMT
I'm thinking the Russian moon rocket scientist was real - so how do we know that people weren't inspired by Verne and experimenting with rockets a few decades before WWII. The Kennedy assassination was over 40 years ago - does that seem like an "age" ago or part of the modern world? I totally agree that MM can stretch things a bit for the sake of fun. But real hardasses can imagine that the entire episode was William daydreaming while he was reading that book in bed. After all, it ends with Julia calling him a hero and wanting to get it on... Also, if it's all a Jungian dream, Meyers and Clegg are still alive. OH absolutely just when it doesn't seem possible the story line is plausible. However there are some tongue in cheek things that are so fun but very unlikely. That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it? As for the Kennedy era most kids today think of it long long ago. I absolutely want Clegg and Meyers to come back. They are so funny and awful at the same time. Well, this is fiction, after all - the very definition of unreal. *wink* Consider it alternative history, perhaps? And yes, Tsiolkovsky was very real: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_TsiolkovskyOxygen was first liquified in measurable quantities in 1883, and hydrogen in 1898. So the components were there. Is it so much of a stretch to imagine Pendrick putting them together first? *grin* Hmmm... Herman Hollerith used his tabulating machine (precursor of the computer) for the 1890 US Census. Now I'm imagining Pendrick taking *that* a few steps further... |
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Post by carco on Nov 20, 2015 18:04:29 GMT
I'm thinking the Russian moon rocket scientist was real - so how do we know that people weren't inspired by Verne and experimenting with rockets a few decades before WWII. The Kennedy assassination was over 40 years ago - does that seem like an "age" ago or part of the modern world? I totally agree that MM can stretch things a bit for the sake of fun. But real hardasses can imagine that the entire episode was William daydreaming while he was reading that book in bed. After all, it ends with Julia calling him a hero and wanting to get it on... Also, if it's all a Jungian dream, Meyers and Clegg are still alive. OH absolutely just when it doesn't seem possible the story line is plausible. However there are some tongue in cheek things that are so fun but very unlikely. That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it? As for the Kennedy era most kids today think of it long long ago. I absolutely want Clegg and Meyers to come back. They are so funny and awful at the same time. I'm with you on all counts oklahomafan except I'm not clear on what is meant by, " That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it?" I was just curious  because it's easy enough for us to do a quick fact check these days, if we're wondering and I recall that in a few episodes where the story involved a nod to actual historical events, the episode has ended with a text screen providing the historical facts. |
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Post by lizmc on Nov 21, 2015 0:38:37 GMT
OH absolutely just when it doesn't seem possible the story line is plausible. However there are some tongue in cheek things that are so fun but very unlikely. That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it? As for the Kennedy era most kids today think of it long long ago. I absolutely want Clegg and Meyers to come back. They are so funny and awful at the same time. I'm with you on all counts oklahomafan except I'm not clear on what is meant by, " That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it?" I was just curious because it's easy enough for us to do a quick fact check these days, if we're wondering and I recall that in a few episodes where the story involved a nod to actual historical events, the episode has ended with a text screen providing the historical facts. I suspect Oklahomafan meant "charm"...... |
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Post by carco on Nov 21, 2015 15:11:50 GMT
I'm with you on all counts oklahomafan except I'm not clear on what is meant by, " That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it?" I was just curious because it's easy enough for us to do a quick fact check these days, if we're wondering and I recall that in a few episodes where the story involved a nod to actual historical events, the episode has ended with a text screen providing the historical facts. I suspect Oklahomafan meant "charm"...... I bet you're right lizmc and it's her Thanksgiving weekend too...so Never Mind oklahomafan !! and hope you have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 22, 2015 15:07:34 GMT
OH absolutely just when it doesn't seem possible the story line is plausible. However there are some tongue in cheek things that are so fun but very unlikely. That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it? As for the Kennedy era most kids today think of it long long ago. I absolutely want Clegg and Meyers to come back. They are so funny and awful at the same time. I'm with you on all counts oklahomafan except I'm not clear on what is meant by, " That is so much a part of the harm of this show is it real or isn't it?" I was just curious because it's easy enough for us to do a quick fact check these days, if we're wondering and I recall that in a few episodes where the story involved a nod to actual historical events, the episode has ended with a text screen providing the historical facts. Charm not harm LOL. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2015 7:38:17 GMT
I finally got to watch it, and I believe this ep was more than a little inspired from the Jules Verne episode: 1) Dreamy inventor thinks he's working on a moon rocket, when he's actually working on a rocket that will bomb a major city for political conspiracy purposes ----Check. 2) Moon rocket science has Russian origins ----Check. 3) There are two rockets - one aimed at the moon, one aimed at a city ----Check. 4) Someone gets tied to the mouth of the rocket cannon ----Check. 5) Someone rather than the intended astronaut/cosmonaut gets into the rocket and accidentally launched to the moon ----Check. 6) Not sure whether The Girl is in on it or not ----Check. Of course, you could also say Jules Verne is invoked in both. In the first, Jules Verne is inspired by the moon rocket escapade. In the second, the moon rocket escapade is inspired by Jules Verne. Really, that's too much of a coincidence -- especially the person getting tied to the cannon. But I'm willing to call it a homage, the same way that Annoying Red Planet was a homage to The X-Files. How freaky is it that I watched those Jules Verne episodes the week before this? I seem to have a weird blessing/curse when it comes to MM... I believe it was Jules Verne meets Dr Strangelove. The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne already did Jules Verne meets Dr. Strangelove...in two different episodes! |
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Post by snacky on Nov 23, 2015 7:46:08 GMT
Whoa nelly - a mad scientist with a Russian accent inspired by Jules Verne! He should have his own TV show! |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 28, 2015 23:40:12 GMT
So I have spent the last 2 weeks slogging through Jules Verne's From the Earth to the Moon. How anyone considers this a children's book is beyond me. It was one of his favourite books as a child...how old was Alwyn when William gave him his copy? I have a fairly extensive vocabulary and this book has me searching for definitions with frightening regularity! I now have proof positive that William is a genius ahead of his time ( not that I really needed any.)
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) of having plenty of William in his shirtsleeves this season... 
because it's easy enough for us to do a quick fact check these days, if we're wondering and I recall that in a few episodes where the story involved a nod to actual historical events, the episode has ended with a text screen providing the historical facts. 