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Post by lizmc on Jan 19, 2016 18:39:52 GMT
Well overall not a bad episode. Roland was a tad annoying, but now they have a playpen it might be better. I must say he is a quiet baby. Seeing Juila and William being awkward parents was awesome though. Crabtree once again proves he is a stand-up human being and a rather decent detective in his own right. Also great to see Julia taking Rebecca under her wing and encouraging her to do mourgey things. The whole point of the Roland story line is that the baby doesn't fit in with their lifestyle and is distracting. I think this is a clever way to silence the baby crowd. Show them how a baby will upset the balance of the show. I don't think RJ is cut out to be a pathologist. I suspect they will break down and get a nanny, and baby will recede into the background, except when useful to the plot..... She definitely needs work on the brain bits...... |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Jan 19, 2016 23:04:26 GMT
Finally got the Timeline up to date with all these significant events! *coughbabycough*
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Post by murdochic on Jan 19, 2016 23:46:33 GMT
William and Julia are both a bit useless with children, but they're learning and Roland seems to be happy with them. They'll be heartbroken if they lose him. William could never last 4 years away from Julia, any adventures will include her.
George sure doesn't seem to be pining over Edna anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a temporary love interest later in the season. Rebecca will have to get less squeamish if she wants to be a coroner or doctor. Higgins is spending more time awol this season than in the station, he needs to be around the station for the rest of the episodes.
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Post by shangas on Jan 20, 2016 1:32:26 GMT
I just finished this episode. I really enjoyed it.
And what did I tell you?? The Inspector coming to the rescue of little Roland, just as I predicted! Soooo cute!! I also liked the baby-minder thing that William made (I know they have names. I forgot what they're called).
I dunno about the rest of you, but when I was a kid, I hated being bounced up and down. It made me bloody nauseous!
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Post by Hodge on Jan 20, 2016 2:45:19 GMT
William and Julia are both a bit useless with children, but they're learning and Roland seems to be happy with them. They'll be heartbroken if they lose him. William could never last 4 years away from Julia, any adventures will include her. George sure doesn't seem to be pining over Edna anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a temporary love interest later in the season. Rebecca will have to get less squeamish if she wants to be a coroner or doctor. Higgins is spending more time awol this season than in the station, he needs to be around the station for the rest of the episodes. William isn't so bad with older children (except Simon) but we've never seen him with babies before, I doubt he's been around babies much. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 3:07:41 GMT
Overall I'd rate this one as average. I had to google Bernier to find out that he was actually an explorer but didn't aim for the North Pole until 1904. Anything that gets me interested in actual history is a major bonus! Pimblett's map seemed to relate more to the northwest passage than the north pole.
Interesting how they chose to refer to Nuniq as Inuit...a term that didn't come into favour until about 30 years ago.
Nuniq of the North in Toronto, lol! George even made it a movie. 
Loved the Gleeful Jumper!
I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would-I'm generally not that interested in arctic exploration, but the fact that this didn't actually take place in the arctic was probably what did it for me. For me, it was a solid episode-but not my fave. As for referring to the Nuniq as Inuit, perhaps for simplicity's sake, as more people are familiar with the term? I wouldn't have caught that... We've always called it a bouncer or "johnny jumpup", but a quick Google search shows that it's the actual brand name. Conversely, my husband and I call it a "baby bungee jumper". We've given several as baby gifts.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 3:21:32 GMT
I'm feeling very conflicted about the Roland story line. He is an adorable, sunny, smiley baby but NO 9 month-old on the planet would be content in a jolly jumper all day. It's just as bad a leaving him in a playpen.  I did chuckle though when Bernier said Julia wasn't much of a mother while William bristled. In all fairness to Helene, he is a big baby who would get very heavy very quickly.
The fact that there has been no conversation at all between W/J about Roland's care seems very odd. They can't alternate taking him to work so the situation feels forced and unrealistic. Brackenreid was so sweet bouncing the baby but his goodwill won't last forever. Something's gotta give and I'm worried about how it will play out. The fact that they haven't discussed a nanny at all definitely strikes me as odd. I'm shaking my head at how two seemingly intelligent, professional people can think they're going to bring their baby to their places of employment and not have it effect their jobs is just strange. I know Julia's not averse to hired help, so is it just William who is against it? Does the man not realize that he has been highly dependent upon the labor of others for years? Mrs. Kitchen was probably cleaning his room and preparing meals for him if not actually doing his laundry (which would have been sent out if that were the case), because William did not have time for those chores. Now that he's in the hotel, those things are still done for him, so there seems to be a disconnect in there somewhere.  But then, is this meant to be a commentary on modern parenting about how some parents bring their children everywhere without consideration that some spaces should be adults only?  (I'm looking at you-people who bring their babies to bars.) |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 3:24:37 GMT
I'm feeling very conflicted about the Roland story line. He is an adorable, sunny, smiley baby but NO 9 month-old on the planet would be content in a jolly jumper all day. It's just as bad a leaving him in a playpen. I did chuckle though when Bernier said Julia wasn't much of a mother while William bristled. In all fairness to Helene, he is a big baby who would get very heavy very quickly.
The fact that there has been no conversation at all between W/J about Roland's care seems very odd. They can't alternate taking him to work so the situation feels forced and unrealistic. Brackenreid was so sweet bouncing the baby but his goodwill won't last forever. Something's gotta give and I'm worried about how it will play out. Well Brackenreid did suggest (kind of) a nanny and I think that's what Rebecca James was about to suggest when she was cut off. I think this story line is a way to give the people that want a baby their way. I still think the baby won't last, something's going to happen. I suspect you're right-something's got to give. At least the current situation is untenable, and won't last long even if they do keep him. Maybe this is to show how awkward these two are as parents. But that said, they are new parents...  mistakes are all a part of the learning curve. |
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Post by Hodge on Jan 20, 2016 3:29:39 GMT
Well Brackenreid did suggest (kind of) a nanny and I think that's what Rebecca James was about to suggest when she was cut off. I think this story line is a way to give the people that want a baby their way. I still think the baby won't last, something's going to happen. I suspect you're right-something's got to give. At least the current situation is untenable, and won't last long even if they do keep him. Maybe this is to show how awkward these two are as parents. But that said, they are new parents... mistakes are all a part of the learning curve. And you would be finding that out! I should have done this sooner ... Congratulations!! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 3:32:01 GMT
Well Brackenreid did suggest (kind of) a nanny and I think that's what Rebecca James was about to suggest when she was cut off. I think this story line is a way to give the people that want a baby their way. I still think the baby won't last, something's going to happen. You're right, they both tried. Is it just that W/J are such intellectuals that they aren't seen the big picture or is it their decision to adopt was so spontaneous they haven't gotten into dealing with the day to day? Julia did sort of reference "modern parenting" but it seemed to mean that they have no intention of modifying their lives, that Roland has to fit into the life they currently lead. Yikes! Okay, full disclosure: As a new parent myself, I myself am guilty of this sin to an extent. Before, we swore that he wasn't going to change our lifestyle-we were still going to travel and be active-we were just going to tote him along. However, I am now discovering that this goal (which I'm not giving up on, btw) is going to have to be modified. Despite their tiny size, newborns aren't the most totable of creatures. Roland may be 9 months old, but he's new to them. So, in defense of W/J, maybe this is something that they're going to have to figure out. Babies require adjustments to how you live your life, whether you want it to or not. That said, I still think someone comes forward to claim Roland. |
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Post by lizmc on Jan 20, 2016 4:07:33 GMT
You're right, they both tried. Is it just that W/J are such intellectuals that they aren't seen the big picture or is it their decision to adopt was so spontaneous they haven't gotten into dealing with the day to day? Julia did sort of reference "modern parenting" but it seemed to mean that they have no intention of modifying their lives, that Roland has to fit into the life they currently lead. Yikes! Okay, full disclosure: As a new parent myself, I myself am guilty of this sin to an extent. Before, we swore that he wasn't going to change our lifestyle-we were still going to travel and be active-we were just going to tote him along. However, I am now discovering that this goal (which I'm not giving up on, btw) is going to have to be modified. Despite their tiny size, newborns aren't the most totable of creatures. Roland may be 9 months old, but he's new to them. So, in defense of W/J, maybe this is something that they're going to have to figure out. Babies require adjustments to how you live your life, whether you want it to or not. That said, I still think someone comes forward to claim Roland.Yes, congratulations, Fallenbelle! You certainly have a unique perspective on this episode. How are things going? |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 20, 2016 4:59:04 GMT
Okay, full disclosure: As a new parent myself, I myself am guilty of this sin to an extent. Before, we swore that he wasn't going to change our lifestyle-we were still going to travel and be active-we were just going to tote him along. However, I am now discovering that this goal (which I'm not giving up on, btw) is going to have to be modified. Despite their tiny size, newborns aren't the most totable of creatures. Roland may be 9 months old, but he's new to them. So, in defense of W/J, maybe this is something that they're going to have to figure out. Babies require adjustments to how you live your life, whether you want it to or not. That said, I still think someone comes forward to claim Roland.I'm so glad you've outed yourself!! Been squealing with joy for over a week. The best irony is that Fallenbelle's family and the Murdoch's family both expanded with hours of each other!! Woot woot!! Every family is different in their approach to this issue. There's a period of adjustment no matter how a baby joins a family. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 6:09:02 GMT
I love that baby, but I found his presence distracting and a bit annoying. But isn't that what many people in the board have been saying would happen all along? I don't think that is accidental on the part of the production team. In a recent interview, Helene made a comment about how William and Julia would be terrible parents! If Roland continues to be a part of their lives they will have to get help, that is obvious. And he will have to be on the show less! (At least until he is 8 years old!) But I am wondering about that very fact: it may be that Roland will only be with them for a short while. I am dreading that occurrence, because it will be heartbreaking. I suspect you (and most of us) were correct in noting that a baby would be a distraction, and I think this is is exactly what the production team has in mind with Roland-show everyone he'll be a distraction and quiet the calls for a baby. I imagine pretty soon that someone will come to claim Roland, and of course, they'll be heartbroken, and won't be interested in adopting another baby anytime soon. That, or if the adoption agency forbids adoption because of religion/Julia's status as a working mother, they also won't be able to try again, effectively closing the topic for consideration...until much later in the series. Maybe it's just me, but I still think there will be a biological child at some point in the future...regardless of whether or not they keep Roland. And actually, I would probably be okay with them keeping Roland, but he need to become an occasional role or mentioned to primarily in passing-it just doesn't work with him being prominent. But as many of us have said, this is probably deliberate on the show's part, and IMO, a good move. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 6:13:15 GMT
Well overall not a bad episode. Roland was a tad annoying, but now they have a playpen it might be better. I must say he is a quiet baby. Seeing Juila and William being awkward parents was awesome though. Crabtree once again proves he is a stand-up human being and a rather decent detective in his own right. Also great to see Julia taking Rebecca under her wing and encouraging her to do mourgey things. I don't think RJ is cut out to be a pathologist. I noted that as well...but then, she only had one year of medical school, and from what Julia said to reassure her, it's normal to be squeamish, and that one has to get used to it. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jan 20, 2016 6:22:25 GMT
Okay, full disclosure: As a new parent myself, I myself am guilty of this sin to an extent. Before, we swore that he wasn't going to change our lifestyle-we were still going to travel and be active-we were just going to tote him along. However, I am now discovering that this goal (which I'm not giving up on, btw) is going to have to be modified. Despite their tiny size, newborns aren't the most totable of creatures. Roland may be 9 months old, but he's new to them. So, in defense of W/J, maybe this is something that they're going to have to figure out. Babies require adjustments to how you live your life, whether you want it to or not. That said, I still think someone comes forward to claim Roland.Yes, congratulations, Fallenbelle! You certainly have a unique perspective on this episode. How are things going? Things are going well! I'm blessed with a typically calm, beautiful baby! |
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I did chuckle though when Bernier said Julia wasn't much of a mother while William bristled. In all fairness to Helene, he is a big baby who would get very heavy very quickly.
(I'm looking at you-people who bring their babies to bars.)
mistakes are all a part of the learning curve.