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Post by shangas on Jan 20, 2016 7:15:51 GMT
A nanny (or more commonly called a nursemaid during this time) would've almost certainly been part of a household during the early 20th century for any family with young children, unless mother was a housewife (which Julia obviously is not).
It's not like with the Brackenreids, where Margaret can dump the kids at her sister's house or something. The Murdochs don't have that option. They will have to hire a nanny sooner or later, even if it's just Miss James at the mortuary, to babysit Roland on the odd occasion.
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Post by murdochic on Jan 20, 2016 12:35:07 GMT
William and Julia are both a bit useless with children, but they're learning and Roland seems to be happy with them. They'll be heartbroken if they lose him. William could never last 4 years away from Julia, any adventures will include her. George sure doesn't seem to be pining over Edna anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a temporary love interest later in the season. Rebecca will have to get less squeamish if she wants to be a coroner or doctor. Higgins is spending more time awol this season than in the station, he needs to be around the station for the rest of the episodes. William isn't so bad with older children (except Simon) but we've never seen him with babies before, I doubt he's been around babies much. From what we know he hasn't looked after a child of any age. He may be able to talk to older children on visits, but he currently shows no knowledge of caring for a child. Neither does Julia. They haven't been around children enough to be automatic skilled parents. They're geeks, modern, and independent, so it's very realistic they'd be like this with Roland. They would want to do things their way and adjust as necessary. Either they need a nanny or they lose Roland, it's just for entertainment value he's around their work atm. I expect either a nanny will be mentioned in the next couple of weeks or someone comes to claim the baby very soon. I'm fine with them getting to keep him, seeing him sometimes wouldn't spoil the show and it would at least mean W/J don't get manufactured romantic drama thrown at them. I'm loving them being the married crime-fighting couple, it doesn't detact anything from the show. MM is actually feeling a lot more like the classic version it was especially good as. I don't personally think Julia should have a miracle conception. It has been a long standing issue that she can't naturally have children and I don't think it's believable she would miraculously become pregnant when she never has previously on the show. Adoption feels more organic to the characters and I don't really understand why some viewers don't think it's good enough. W/J being parents, regardless of whether it's biologically their child, is the only long term goal we should really care about. |
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Post by monty151 on Jan 21, 2016 11:56:17 GMT
Now that I have seen the episode I don't want to see Roland too much. I felt he was a distraction. If we see him when they are at home I think that would be fine.
However, I think we are being set up for heartbreak. Not sure what will happen but I will be suprised if they are successful with the adoption.
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Jan 22, 2016 15:50:44 GMT
This was a good episode. My favourite scene was George and Nuniq pairing up with the two ladies in the restaurant. I found the scenes with Roland touching and amusing.
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Post by omgurl40 on Jan 23, 2016 4:16:56 GMT
A good episode, I enjoyed the mystery very much. Nuniq and George were fun to watch together (pity we didn't see more of their night on the town!) and I liked learning a bit about Capt Bernier.
Had to agree with Bernier regarding how Julia was carrying the baby and felt the same when William was handed Roland in the morgue: they both really need some lessons in how to care for a baby. I've done it with two and it's not difficult to figure out how to carry an infant. Loved Brackenreid showing William how to hold and play with Roland!
A nursemaid is definitely in order - as much as they want to include Roland in their lives, a gleeful bouncer really isn't going to help them with trying to care for the child at their work. Particularly at a morgue! I don't know that Rebecca will be the nursemaid, she doesn't seem to be any more comfortable with child care than Julia or William.
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Post by murdochic on Jan 23, 2016 15:25:54 GMT
Rebecca is too busy training to be a coroner to be Roland's nursemaid.
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Post by molly on Jan 23, 2016 17:29:26 GMT
I'm feeling very conflicted about the Roland story line. He is an adorable, sunny, smiley baby but NO 9 month-old on the planet would be content in a jolly jumper all day. It's just as bad a leaving him in a playpen.  I did chuckle though when Bernier said Julia wasn't much of a mother while William bristled. In all fairness to Helene, he is a big baby who would get very heavy very quickly.
The fact that there has been no conversation at all between W/J about Roland's care seems very odd. They can't alternate taking him to work so the situation feels forced and unrealistic. Brackenreid was so sweet bouncing the baby but his goodwill won't last forever. Something's gotta give and I'm worried about how it will play out. The fact that they haven't discussed a nanny at all definitely strikes me as odd. I'm shaking my head at how two seemingly intelligent, professional people can think they're going to bring their baby to their places of employment and not have it effect their jobs is just strange. I know Julia's not averse to hired help, so is it just William who is against it? Does the man not realize that he has been highly dependent upon the labor of others for years? Mrs. Kitchen was probably cleaning his room and preparing meals for him if not actually doing his laundry (which would have been sent out if that were the case), because William did not have time for those chores. Now that he's in the hotel, those things are still done for him, so there seems to be a disconnect in there somewhere.  But then, is this meant to be a commentary on modern parenting about how some parents bring their children everywhere without consideration that some spaces should be adults only?  (I'm looking at you-people who bring their babies to bars.) >>I find this to be exactly how many, really intelligent people can't cope with day to day life. I have a lot of clients who are lawyers, doctors etc. and they are useless when it comes to working a calendar or making a sandwich. William and Julia adopted quickly and cluelessly so none of this surprises me. The way she was carrying the baby while talking to Bernier and William was hilarious! Let's hope they know how to change diapers and feed him! |
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Post by lovemondays on Jan 23, 2016 18:48:54 GMT
A nursemaid is definitely in order - as much as they want to include Roland in their lives, a gleeful bouncer really isn't going to help them with trying to care for the child at their work. Particularly at a morgue! I don't know that Rebecca will be the nursemaid, she doesn't seem to be any more comfortable with child care than Julia or William. Rebecca shouldn't have to perform child-minding duties regardless of her comfort level. The only time it is appropriate for Roland to be in the morgue is when the nanny brings him for a visit! I think we're all in agreement that some arrangements will have to be made because it is completely unrealistic to expect W/J's co-workers to take on Roland so they can get on with their work. |
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I did chuckle though when Bernier said Julia wasn't much of a mother while William bristled. In all fairness to Helene, he is a big baby who would get very heavy very quickly.
(I'm looking at you-people who bring their babies to bars.)