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Post by randomkiwibirds on Oct 20, 2016 18:18:03 GMT
OH I was just writing making a thread for episode 3 and I remembered another bit of this episode I loved -
When Crabtree goes to introduce a witness to the death of the last girl (Irma?) he says "I've been in the city long enough to know who you are"
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Post by lizmc on Oct 20, 2016 20:15:09 GMT
I also loved that they acknowledged the only person, John Croft, who's death was due to the fire (even if it was about a week later.)
(If anyone is interested, John Croft actually has a laneway named after him, although for some reason, it is nowhere near either the area of the fire or the part of the City he lived in....)
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Oct 20, 2016 21:56:00 GMT
Higgins walking face first into the door pretty much made my evening. Especially as it was preceeded by "Why am I arresting you?" "Because I;m a scounderal and a coward" "You have been for years, why now?" That made me LOL. I really enjoyed Henry's parts in the episode. I hope he gets more camera time this year. |
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Post by lizmc on Oct 20, 2016 22:14:23 GMT
Prop Monkey's video of the fire debris on the backlot:
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Post by murdochic on Oct 21, 2016 11:19:21 GMT
Higgins walking face first into the door pretty much made my evening. Especially as it was preceeded by "Why am I arresting you?" "Because I;m a scounderal and a coward" "You have been for years, why now?" That made me LOL. I really enjoyed Henry's parts in the episode. I hope he gets more camera time this year. Me too. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 22, 2016 2:12:55 GMT
Maybe someone here can explain this to me, but was Lady Suzanne complicit in this? She really didn't want to Julia to accompany her to the train station, and once there, she didn't want Julia to stay there, just kept telling her she could go. She was just overall acting very secretive, and I can't understand why. What was she trying to hide?
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Post by lizmc on Oct 22, 2016 3:07:46 GMT
Maybe someone here can explain this to me, but was Lady Suzanne complicit in this? She really didn't want to Julia to accompany her to the train station, and once there, she didn't want Julia to stay there, just kept telling her she could go. She was just overall acting very secretive, and I can't understand why. What was she trying to hide? I think she was complacent in marrying her daughter off......surely she saw Bishop when he was escorting the debutants into the Ball, plus he was around at the other functions. I think she knew full well Elizabeth was still seeing him and as long as she married Rodney Strong, she could accept the former boyfriend. I don't think she was in on the murders...... |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 22, 2016 3:53:28 GMT
Maybe someone here can explain this to me, but was Lady Suzanne complicit in this? She really didn't want to Julia to accompany her to the train station, and once there, she didn't want Julia to stay there, just kept telling her she could go. She was just overall acting very secretive, and I can't understand why. What was she trying to hide? I think she was complacent in marrying her daughter off......surely she saw Bishop when he was escorting the debutants into the Ball, plus he was around at the other functions. I think she knew full well Elizabeth was still seeing him and as long as she married Rodney Strong, she could accept the former boyfriend. I don't think she was in on the murders...... I thought she was a red herring. |
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Post by shangas on Oct 22, 2016 10:58:19 GMT
I watched this episode at least three times. And I didn't like it.
I mean I understand why the fire couldn't form a bigger part of the episode, but still...I just didn't like it. I guess I just found it boring. I don't think there was really any part of it that I can honestly say I enjoyed. Not even the fire.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 22, 2016 11:24:14 GMT
Maybe someone here can explain this to me, but was Lady Suzanne complicit in this? She really didn't want to Julia to accompany her to the train station, and once there, she didn't want Julia to stay there, just kept telling her she could go. She was just overall acting very secretive, and I can't understand why. What was she trying to hide? I think she was complacent in marrying her daughter off......surely she saw Bishop when he was escorting the debutants into the Ball, plus he was around at the other functions. I think she knew full well Elizabeth was still seeing him and as long as she married Rodney Strong, she could accept the former boyfriend. I don't think she was in on the murders...... And perhaps that's it...maybe she was just trying to hide the fact that her daughter was still sleeping with him-thatshe was embarrassed to have anyone else know that's what she was doing. I just found her behavior odd, is all, and no apparent reason for it. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 22, 2016 11:25:58 GMT
Prop Monkey's video of the fire debris on the backlot: Wow...that little video showed far more destruction than the actual episode did... |
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Post by snacky on Oct 24, 2016 2:46:23 GMT
I finally saw both parts one and two! I did like them: I thought the pacing was good, and I was genuinely surprised by the murderer. Still the solution to the mystery was plausible. The weakest part was how Trevor, a gardener, could befriend such a wealthy man. I thought he was a butler when I first saw him in part 1: he seemed to be managing the bachelor's schedule.
I liked the continuity of Julia's guilt. Her depression could have been compounded by other things she had to be depressed about. Remember, she just lost Roland as well. As a pro-angst person, I would have liked it to last several episodes.
I loved seeing Julia in her tea gown having a relaxing drink in the hotel suite - and I loved seeing her in her ballgown as well. The hotel is a good place to meet cosmopolitan International travelers. I laughed at the idea showing more decolletage was "continental".
I'm enjoying the fatherly geniality of the Inspector: it's hard to imagine the time way back when he was Murdoch-skeptical and a bit of a bully to his own men. Henry's confession was a great scene. I lol'd that the inspector always thinks of Henry as a scoundrel. I expected him to say something to urge Henry to give up on cigars since he probably will start a great fire some day. Does anyone remember when I was suggesting a random cigarette at The Wedding could have burned down the building in the park (when we were speculating on the wedding being there?) Maybe that inspired this Henry bit of business. The line about the Inspector's smelly jockstrap was priceless!
The Julia "I'm fine" thing harkens back to the X-Files. Scully saying "I'm fine" and meaning the opposite was a meme from that fandom. Also there was a much fan-beloved scene with Mulder slumping against a doorway and feeling helpless when Scully was in a coma. That might have influenced William's doorway slump when he saw Julia pretending to sleep.
I don't get the peephole bit of business. I love it when William goes MacGyver, but why was the peephole necessary? Did William see anything? It looked like he went through all the trouble but then changed his mind and followed people to the train station instead...?
I'm not sure how I feel about George and Nina yet, but I can see both George and Henry hanging out at burlesque shows.
I have to agree with sentiments that the fire should have featured more in the episodes than it did. The debutante experience definitely dominated. I wonder if the gossip column was based on a real one? Was the comment about people being interested in William's marriage a wry wink at fans?
William's house reminds me of Almanzo Wilder building a dream house for Laura Ingalls for some reason. I love that William will have an outlet for all his creativity. Meanwhile, the Inspector said that Julia had not been able to get the expansion to the morgue that she had applied for. The first crime lab will soon be afoot in the US: Julia better get a move on!!!!
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Post by snacky on Oct 24, 2016 2:56:32 GMT
Maybe someone here can explain this to me, but was Lady Suzanne complicit in this? She really didn't want to Julia to accompany her to the train station, and once there, she didn't want Julia to stay there, just kept telling her she could go. She was just overall acting very secretive, and I can't understand why. What was she trying to hide? I think this had something to do with bringing the groom back to England. Maybe his family in Canada would object? Lady Atterly had schemed for her daughter to marry him, and now she was hijacking him to go back to England and solve all her family's reputation problems as well as financial problems. I think the groom (sorry I'm spacing on his name at the minute) was in on the plan to go straighten out the family position in England. He must have been upset when his bride told him that she was sleeping with his best buddy Trevor. Perhaps he was also going to England to prevent a scandal from occurring in Canada? Perhaps he didn't want William to go up to his room because he suspected Trevor was there with his bride? It's sad that he loved her for her honesty, but her honest self turned out to be such a "mean girl". |
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Post by snacky on Oct 24, 2016 2:59:26 GMT
When Crabtree goes to introduce a witness to the death of the last girl (Irma?) he says "I've been in the city long enough to know who you are" I still think this is the upswing of a hubris cycle, even if William remains humble and modest...and eventually there will be some comeuppance... |
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Post by snacky on Oct 24, 2016 3:06:29 GMT
George is bound to lose his savings in that garage. I'm not ready to make a call on that. There are running jokes on George being wealthier than he appears. He has his side gig as a famous novelist and he invests well. He's a snappy dresser when he wants to be. The garage could prove to be a good investment that adds to George's fortune. Perhaps he can invest in Julia's crime lab later...? |
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