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Post by randomkiwibirds on May 10, 2011 22:35:18 GMT
All of this-the way it ended has ruined my day. Really This day was going so great till I found this out.
thanks a bunch producers.
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Post by lifeisridic on May 10, 2011 22:37:21 GMT
In fairness Julia herself was also in need of a telling off in this episode. Ruby encouraged her to end the engagement to Darcy, yet she said no, and still insisted she loved him. She wrote the letter and put the choice all on William to stop the wedding. She herself should have stopped it. Both of them don't deserve to be happy at this point because they are both too cowardly to openly fight for each other.
If Julia had stopped the wedding, then William could have let the girl go and still told Julia he loved her. He actually said he knows what he has lost, both of them are fools and the writers are making them look ridiculous. Julia just coldbloodly married a man she herself told William she didn't really want.
I am angry at the writers, producers and W/J.
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Post by camilla on May 10, 2011 22:52:34 GMT
Ok friends,just read in facebook(in the group:Murdoch mysteries appreciation society) that a person say that they filmed 3 different endings for this episode...great,really great they want to' show this ending to' the viewers...thank you very much producers
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Post by akarana on May 10, 2011 22:54:32 GMT
They must have had a lot of changed this season, judging by the "faulty" episode descriptions by the network. I don't think someone made them up, but rather that it was the original plan to end this Julia/Darcy fiasco somewhere in the middle of the season (one way or another). I wonder what made them change their mind.
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Post by Lucy on May 10, 2011 22:55:36 GMT
They must think that there will be a 5th season then.
I've been thinking and perhaps they can start S5 a few years down the line?
Perhaps Darcy doesn't know she can't have children? She didn't tell him about Murdoch and their relationship.
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Post by lifeisridic on May 10, 2011 22:56:25 GMT
They tend to film multiple endings on shows when they want to keep it a secret but they have no intention of actually using the spare endings. Though the thought that they no doubt filmed a happier ending and didn't use it makes my blood boil, especially as they don't even know if there will be a S5.
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Post by camilla on May 10, 2011 22:57:11 GMT
This ending make me think about no season 5 ..
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Post by randomkiwibirds on May 10, 2011 23:00:32 GMT
well I have lost almost all insparation to do fan art after this. Way to kill the creative mood.
I just really really hope that this was an halluciation. But my gut tells me it wont be and they have basicly killed the show.
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Post by lmcg on May 10, 2011 23:53:35 GMT
I really loved that ending! Of course we all know that W/J will get together in the end and I trust the writers have a plan, but now at least they have some breathing room from one another and maybe W can get on with it and stop mooning about so much. And I think that choosing to right a past wrong over his own happiness and against his better judgement showed a lot of growth of character!!! I'm very excited for S5, fingers crossed...
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Post by lifeisridic on May 11, 2011 0:52:18 GMT
I think it showed anything but a growth of character. It showed the overly moralist and somewhat selfrightous William of S1 hasn't changed. This behaviour of his is why Julia is now married to someone else. I admire him letting the girl go but he did it at the expense of Julia's happiness, morally he shouldn't have let her marry someone she didn't want to be with.
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Post by brobert on May 11, 2011 1:36:35 GMT
I am in USA and dislike that we do not get Murdoch Mysteries. I try to follow it as best as possible with clips and forums. I was waiting to finally hear that W/J got together. Now there is no need to buy any DVD's.
These crazy writers and producers have a myth that if two lovers get together there will no longer be interesting and sexual tension. Who is writing and producing for God's Sake? Don't they know about the birds and the bees and that love powers all! Why can't any of the writers and producers learn how to write love relationships?
The same stupid events occur on Castle. TV show writers and producers must not know about successful and loving relationships. That is more challenging and exciting than being left to take cold showers.
I am about ready to write my own series that proves love is all and people want to watch successful and loving relationships with witty banter and quality written scripts.
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Post by johnie89 on May 11, 2011 3:47:49 GMT
The people who wrote this ending we sad sad men... lonely bitter men.... or women.... anyways, I hope they go to their graves after a long, protracted, cancer filled life... Alone....
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Post by Lucy on May 11, 2011 6:11:58 GMT
I understand your frustration but don't you think that's a bit much?
Air your frustration here by all means but do not make it personal it is only a TV show after all.
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Post by akarana on May 11, 2011 6:48:38 GMT
Agreed Lucy! It's just a TV show afterall.
still, I would very much like to have an interview or something where the writers could explain their reasoning, becaus once more it makes no sense to me.
Castle is an example, brobert is right, Bones, NCIS, Judging Amy would be others. And sometimes they dragged it out fot 7 or 8 seasons and then when they were axed they were like "Aw, sorry fans, we wanted them to get together THIS season. It was all about the journey, after all". That's just crap.
Gonna watch it now and then most likely will come back with a rant
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Post by akarana on May 11, 2011 7:50:02 GMT
Huh, I myself expected an angry rant after I've seen the episode, instead I am just sad.
I have to say though that I want to slap Julia up the back of her head and hug William for once. Why? Ok, I'll explain:
Julia has now all the facts. She knows he loves her, she knows he wants to adopt, she knows all of that and it is stupid of her to believe anything has chaned (Anyone else find it odd that William not only wrote down the proposal, but also signed a date to it?! What did he want to do? Send it to her at the trainstation?!)
So she has all the facts and she knows how close the wedding is and she doesn't know how long he'll have to stay in prison. Still, she only leaves the letter on a typewriter? She should have given it to Crabtree or Brackenreid, she knows they would have given him the letter secretly. I mean, it ould have also been possible, that William would have stayed in jail much longer and then? He had barely a chance to respond in a responsible way to that letter.
Did she really want him to barge into church, cause a huge scene and then sweep her off her feet with a love confession?! It makes no sense.
As for Murdoch, I get why he did what he did- or didn't do.
He's not one for causing scenes or confessing his feelings, much less in front of a crowd of people waiting for the wedding to happen.
When he got the letter it was basically too late already, especially considering that he knew this was his only chance to help the poor woman.
Breaking the engagament a week or so before the wedding would have caused a social scene, but barging into the church? Socially William and Julia would have been done back then.
So he chose, in his own words "It's one mistake I can set right", and let the poor woman out and help her escape.
Also he says "You (w)don't know what it cost me," so he is aware what he does, but I guess he just couldn't live with himself if the woman would hang, while he would live happily ever after with Julia.
And then there's another thing. Julia's letter to him. It wasn't exactly a confession of her undying love for him. She didn't write "I will never be happy without you". She wrote "Either way I will know your true feelings and my heart will be in peace", which in other words means "I can marry you if you want me or Darcy. I will be happy either way." So, of course, he saves that woman. I guess he always had doubts about being the right guy for Julia, but now she's telling him this and it's clear that he will choose her happiness and helping the woman instead of causing a scene and letting a poor woman hang.
I have respect for William's decission, I reject Julia's way of handling things and I really don't understand why the writers set up this season to break William and Julia up for good. They were the main reason why I watched this show and in a way the end of this season would set a (sad) end to the show, But everything would be wrapped up.
So I am not sure that this means there will be a season 5. Having William storm into the church last minute and causong a scene, then ending with a cliffhanger would have been much more promising.
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