02. Back and to the Left

[Lucy]

Murdoch must tread carefully when he pursues a Catholic suspect of the murder of an Alderman.

[hannikan]

Wasn't it weird they didn't give a verbal preview after MotK? They showed some visuals but not words about this episode. Anyway, I'm very curious about this episode! William could really get on Giles' good side solving this one or on his bad side. Perhaps Giles' feels differently about Catholics than Chief Constable Stockton did.

[gwynhyfer]

Oh here we go again... so Julia is leaving and setting up in her own practice...

[Lucy]

I know, it's so frustrating! I hope it's all sorted out soon. I haven't heard that she's leaving permanently?

[akarana]

Oh boy... glad you warned me so I won't rip out my own hair once I watch the episode. Although I have the feeling she might still pop up and cause some heartache for him here and there

[hannikan]

I haven't seen this episode yet but I know she'll reemerge in a few episodes. She's not listed again in IMDB until ep 7. Then I think she'll be in the rest of the episodes of the season. I won't give away how she reemerges.

[Lucy]

She did say she was going to set up her own practice in Toronto, so I have a feeling we will be seeing her again! At least I hope we will!

[akarana]

So, I have seen the episode now and it definitely is a William and Julia one. Her assistant wonders about the familiarity between them, they work very closely together and Julia even adresses the decissions they made at the end of last season.
In the end she tells him that she is leaving because of him- no other reason. She wanted to leave before he came back, but then she had to teach the new assistant and also she wanted to say goodbye. She says that she just can't stay and that this case proves why.
For me that doesn't sound at all like what she wrote in her letter. For one they talked about it again- which she didn't want to do, and then she basically admits that while she still loves him and can't be near him they both made their choces and now have to live with it.
I stand by m,y theory: If these two have to work together again they won't be able to deny their feelings for too long.
If you read the subtext Julia basically told William today that she still loves him, wants to be with him and can't be near him because it breaks her heart. However she is married to Darcy and has to stick with that choice.
As for the case: William and the 3D picture... ok, I thought that to be a bit over the top, but then again who knows what was possible back then.

[elena]

who knows, where it is possible to find subtitles by the 5th season?

It is very a pity to me Julia, what for it was necessary to marry the unloved person? From yourself you will not escape...
And she still loves Merdok, it is visible and strongly loves...

[elena]

akarana

I badly speak on English, you can precisely write about what talked Julia and Murdoch in a final scene? please

[CosmicCavalcade]

yeah, the 3D pic was a bit over the top for me as well. however, i was glad to see the reemergence of one of William's inventions. ie. the recorder. it's always puzzled me how he creates something new almost every episode and then he NEVER uses them again, even when they clearly would have been helpful on certain cases. I mean i get why they wouldn't want to use the lie detector one every ep because that would become rather cheap and boring and take all the mystery out of it but there's still tons of other inventions that he never uses again. He should really get some patents on those at the very least. xD

anyways, i liked the ep for the most part. yeah the ending was annoying but i expected it given we now have at least 6 seasons. also, i was expecting her protege to bring up William and Julia's obvious familiarity but i guess the protege has enough sense not to do that, even if she knew Julia was leaving soon and wouldn't have to work with her anymore if things got awkward. well, she might bring it up with William at some point because she doesn't seem to care too much for authority.

sadly, i think even if Julia does find out the real reason why William didn't show up to her wedding, i don't think it'll change anything.

[kaybee]

Now having watched the episode, I have a jumble of thoughts. First, I hate the fact that we will apparently be without Helene Joy for several episodes. She is a tremendous actress, and her scenes with Yannick have always helped further the plot as they talk things out. Dr. Grace seems okay, but somewhat abrasive to me. I enjoy the fact that Giles as Chief Constable seems far more involved than Stockton was...it enables a slightly different spin on the relationship between Murdoch and Brackenreid. The mystery itself was interesting, particularly in the use of stereophonic pictures to enable a 3D image! I swear this show is as noteworthy for its inclusion of historical inventions and developments as for anything else! As always, love the way George helps out with all the legwork.

[akarana]

Mar 7, 2012 13:23:39 GMT elena said:

akarana

I badly speak on English, you can precisely write about what talked Julia and Murdoch in a final scene? please

If you tell me what your mother tongue is, maybe I can translate it for you?!

Well, she goes to him (dressed in a way that's more elegant than before, without being preppy. I guess that's her "I'm married" look) and then she says that he has to rely on the other doctor from now on.
W: I beg your pardon
J: I'm leaving William. I've decided to set up my own private practice here in Toronto (Did anyone else flinch at the words "private practice"? My thought was: oh please, not another Addison!)
W: Are you quite sure? Your value here is im..
J: We both know why, William. If we'd forgotten we were reminded of it over the last few days. I just can't...I'd hoped to leave before your suspension was up but I had so much to teach Dr. Grace and well, I did want to say goodbye. So... goodbye William.
W( goes to her and takes her hand): Goodbye Julia. And thank you.
J: For what?
W: For being honest. Above all, I have always respected that. Always.
(J. leaves and William touches his own hand, the one that just held Julia's while the camera zooms out and shows him standing alone in his office. End of episode.)


And did anyone else hope for a second that he was going to kiss her in that scene when he ended up taken her hand (which was kind of weird)?

[titsyl]

I so believed they are going to kiss last nite!!!
Poor William , and the hand was weird, yes.
It would be normal to see him cry...

[hannikan]

Julia won't be in the next few episodes but she will be back about half way through the season, though I don't think she'll be back as coroner. She has already left once and also she had quite the run-in with Giles so he isn't likely to let her come back again easily. But I think she somehow will be back as coroner by S6. Dr. Grace is probably even more of a rebel than Julia given her demeanor and her age. So she could easily do something that gets her booted out. I would imagine that would be the easiest way to bring Julia back to the morgue by S6. Julia's hair is lighter, much more golden blond this season. And it's all up again, which is much more appropriate for her age in this era. I definitely do not think the William/Julia relationship is over.

Yeah, it was a sad but interesting episode. I thought the technology aspect of it was great as well as the political elements of it. It didn't surprise me that Giles was similar to Stockton regarding Catholics. I thought Thomas' reaction to them was interesting as it always is. He mentioned that the Orangemen marched through the Irish Catholic district to rub it in, sympathizing with them. But as soon there was a murder/assassination, he blamed the Irish Catholics immediately. He's similarly inconsistent about the monarchy; criticizing the institution one minute, then proud of it the next. Very human responses.

I'm sad Julia's gone from the morgue but I understand why she made that decision. It may have been partly due to avoid conflict with Darcy, too. He wouldn't want her working with William. But I'm sure she'll be back in time. Dr. Grace is quite a feisty one, I think. She may get herself into trouble with the powers that be. She was incredibly precise about the bullet's entry and angles. I don't remember Julia ever talking at such length about the angles of a bullet's entry. It was obviously very important in this case but there have been others where it would have been, as well.