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Post by hannikan on Apr 16, 2012 8:47:47 GMT
I just noticed something about the murder of Lucille Messing. She says at the beginning when she's talking to Mr. Faber that Rose would like to hear about his finding the book he checks out. Rose, we find out later, was her alter ego. So that means Mr. Faber knew about her alter ego, too. It seemed suspicious to be me when he acted so nervously when questioned about her. I also noticed that the man who grabbed Lucille (and was supposedly her murderer) had the same silhouette and wore a hat very much like the one the 1st Black Hand man did-the one who asked Anna her name and tipped off the assassin moments later. I now think that is the man who killed Lucille, which would indicate that the Black Hand was involved in her death.
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Post by Lucy on Apr 16, 2012 14:27:53 GMT
It would make sense considering that Anna is supposed to be in hiding from the Black Hand.
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Post by hannikan on Apr 16, 2012 19:29:16 GMT
I think there's still more to learn about what Lucille was really doing though, too. It should be interesting to see the conclusion of this!  |
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Post by catymurdoch on Apr 17, 2012 13:30:02 GMT
We will find out tonight |
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Jul 18, 2012 18:47:55 GMT
Wow, what a great episode. It was awesome to see the women front and center.
First, great that Ana is back and helping William solve the murder--well, up until the episode ended she was! As great as it is to have Ana back, maybe it's just me, but the chemistry they once shared didn't seem there, at least on William's part. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be noticeable or what. Especially when she kissed him at William's place. He was sorta, "Yeah, that's nice," about it. Anyhoo, on pins and needles for next week.
Julia really stole the show this episode. Lawd, did the writers ever give her character a much needed boost. She was her old self--strong, determined, and even saucy! It was great to see her and Darcy as a couple finally. In the past, the writers always seemed to skim this, leaving Darcy without much of a personality. But they brought him to life here, letting the actor who plays Darcy give some depth to his performance finally.
Did these two ever generate sparks! Whoa! Were they ever into each other. I love when she was tying his tie. Kinda gives you a hint at how forward she probably is behind closed doors! You go girl!
Julia seems really into him and their marriage. For so long Darcy has always conceded all for the sake of Julia's happiness, and his love for her, which is a great thing. To see Julia reciprocate in order for Darcy to get his promotion really spoke volumes about her character. She is truly a wonderful and caring woman. I'm just worried that with Darcy's promotion, the cause she put on hold for him might be indefinite. I hope not. I really admired her reasons for teaching contraception methods.
What sort of irritated me was Dr. Grace's attitude towards Julia. Not nice. She put all of the blame on Julia--even saying the cause was dead without Julia now. LOL. What? Dr. Grace doesn't have a mouth or brain of her own to lead a new cause? How much clout does she think Julia has? I don't know. There's something about Dr. Grace that annoys me. It's as if she tries too hard to be spunky, spirited and independent. When she does, she comes across as bossy and rude.
I enjoyed the jail scene between Julia and William. It was so nice to see they've both moved on. Julia's body language more than said she'd moved on. This episode reaffirms how important her character is to the cast. Something had been missing without Julia's presence up until now. With her back, there is excitement, which goes to show even without being the coroner or William's sweetheart, her presence is needed to add "something" that was lacking when she's not around.
The murder is also a very intruiging. I'm not sure what's happening with that librarian or what's going on, but it has me on the seat of my chair.
And yay to Higgins finally making an appearance, too. Darn, I wish those writers would let him and George hook up. The show is always tackling tough subjects for that period such as birthg control, etc., and it'd be nice to see a constant reccuring one with forbidden love, such as Higgins and George.
I am on pins and needles for the second episode. I haven't been trying to figure out who murdered the librarian. I've just been too busy going with the flow and watching the episode unfold. It was that good. I always try figure out who did it and why, but this time I'm here for the ride since I'm too captivated by what's unfolding.
Whee, here's to more Julia and Darcy!
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Post by barbarama on Jul 18, 2012 21:49:56 GMT
to Nugget, This was a great post, I loved reading your impressions of this episode, especially the characters' emotions. I think you will love next week episode as well as it is full of surprises. When we think we have figured out situation or people, there are twists happening!!! But yeah, having Julia's back was a big plus for me with this episode, when she's not there, something's missing!!!  So I can't wait for next week to read your impression on the second part!! P.S: I have the same feeling about Dr.Grace character, I still haven't warmed up to her even if I always say that Georgina Reilly is doing a good job portraying her (I think it is the way the character is written that doesn't work with me). It seems forced to me, either the relationship with George or the way she appears progressive or independant, it doesn't feel natural. That is just my opinion of course!!! So until next week  |
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Post by hannikan on Jul 18, 2012 23:10:03 GMT
I saw Julia's agreeing to stop promoting the birth control clinic very differently. While I agree that she was very strong and determined initially about the cause, when she caved into Darcy's demands she really showed weakness. That's not bad in terms of being realistic but it wasn't the strong Julia we love. I was disappointed when she gave in. She was trying to compromise but I think she did it a bit out of fear of causing arguments, not because she no longer wanted to do it. Emily was frustrated by her suddenly jumping ship and wondered what had caused her sudden change in direction. She was suspicious that Julia's husband had told her to stop and she was right. When she said that that clinic was dead without Julia it was because Julia was going to be the doctor at the clinic. Emily can't do that because she's the coroner at the morgue. At this point, Julia's a stay-at-home-wife so she can take on a new job (if her husband will let her, which he does not). So Emily can promote the cause til the cows come home but she cannot run the clinic. I like her moxie but I agree that her character feels forced into the group and the morgue (she got hired and promoted super quickly) and the actress feels out of period. Something about the way she speaks so flatly makes her seem like she is not actually living in 1899. Julia is progressive and feels modern but it's still believable that she lives in 1899 due to her voice and mannerisms. I think they want Emily to feel like a very different personality than Julia, more forceful and less diplomatic. She is supposed to be from a working class background, so she had to struggle a lot more even than Julia did to get where she is. Hopefully we'll find out more about that in the future because it would flesh her character out more. And it does mean that her speech would be less polished and upper-crust sounding than Julia's.
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Post by barbarama on Jul 19, 2012 3:28:20 GMT
Really like your comments as well Hannikan especially about Julia's backing up because her husband asked her too, for me feisty, independent and progressive Julia is what make me love the character so I am always happy when i see more of that!! I have to admit that I didn't pay attention too much about Dr. Grace voice, but I will definitely listen more carefully next time I'll watch. I liked the second parter as well because it had some twists that I didn't expect but I guess we will all discuss about it next week |
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Jul 20, 2012 2:37:35 GMT
"P.S: I have the same feeling about Dr.Grace character, I still haven't warmed up to her even if I always say that Georgina Reilly is doing a good job portraying her (I think it is the way the character is written that doesn't work with me). It seems forced to me, either the relationship with George or the way she appears progressive or independant, it doesn't feel natural. That is just my opinion of course!!!"
I can't figure out how to quote under the black and white scheme I chose for my skin so I put yoru comments in quotes. That's it exactly. The actress is doing a great job, but the writers are trying to make her into another Ruby/Miss Moffat. I wish they'd just let her be Dr. Grace, because if they did, she'd probably be a great new cast member.
Yes, I'm trying to stay away from the Part Two board on here LOLOL. I soo wanna read ahead and spoil myself, but I'm fighting the urge to find out if Anna lives or not. Gawd, I hope hope hope they don't kill her off. I really like Anna. But with the Black Hand after her, I'm not sure how they can let her realistically survive. So my fingers are crossed, because I love when she makes an appearance.
They'd better show more of Darcy/Julia alone hehe. I just love their chemistry. Or maybe it has to do with Darcy finally getting a personality, because he's a handsome man, but he's always faded into the background for me before since the writers never gave him much to work with.
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Post by barbarama on Jul 20, 2012 13:09:42 GMT
To nugget, Be strong and don't read the spoilers for the 2nd part you will be rewarded at the end and very surprised I think |
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Post by Terence's Top Hat on Jul 20, 2012 20:35:39 GMT
I will behave and won't read the spoilers. But darn if Tuesday can't come fast enough haha.
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Post by barbarama on Jul 21, 2012 2:11:38 GMT
It will come faster than you think and I can't wait to read your reflections on that episode as well. As I mentioned before it is interesting to read the perspective from another person fresh eyes as it makes me think as well on the episode again Enjoy your weekend and you will see that Tuesday will be there super quick ;D |
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Post by petunia on Jul 22, 2012 15:22:10 GMT
My take on why Julia caved in to Darcy... I think she did it out of guilt. By now it's quite clear to her that she still loves William (see her parting comment in back and to the left). She does not love her husband the way she should, so to make up for it, she caved in on the clinic issue.
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Post by barbarama on Jul 22, 2012 19:52:42 GMT
to Petunia, That is an interesting idea. Obviously for me too she's still in love with William (as you mentioned what she said at the end of episode 2) but I didn't take in consideration the "she doesn't love her husband like she should" hence she is trying to please him. I like to read other people perception as it is clear that we each have our own ideas and feelings when we see something but looking at it through an external point of view is always great. Thanks for sharing Petunia |
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Post by hannikan on Jul 23, 2012 6:09:53 GMT
Yeah, guilt might have played a small part in it. I also think that Darcy convinced Julia that after he got promoted, they could take on the issue together. I think a part of her had to know that that would not actually happen either because he wouldn't have the guts to stand up to those powerful men on the hospital board who opposed it or because he never intended to even try but was just telling her that he would to appease her and get her to come home.
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