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Post by snacky on Dec 14, 2014 6:12:37 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 14, 2014 12:56:51 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy. Yes, I did. And I think William thought about that later, but at that moment, he wasn't thinking about much at all other than getting Anna naked. Because once she started talking about passion and they started kissing, William wasn't thinking with his brain anymore. He's William, but he's still a man.
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Post by snacky on Dec 14, 2014 19:52:43 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy. Yes, I did. And I think William thought about that later, but at that moment, he wasn't thinking about much at all other than getting Anna naked. Because once she started talking about passion and they started kissing, William wasn't thinking with his brain anymore. He's William, but he's still a man. Yes, the minute Anna started talking about keeping passions pent up, William could identify! But he probably filed away what she said about marriage for later. We've established in other threads that William has a weird ability to mentally multitask that way.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 15, 2014 17:42:48 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy. I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 15, 2014 23:43:00 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy. I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. I think she was trying to steer William towards herself-Julia was married and since divorce wasn't an option back then, Julia was a non-starter, and absolutely unattainable. Not even William was holding out hope for her anymore, and while still in love with Julia, he was trying to explore other options. Trying is the operative word here... I think if Anna had stayed in Toronto, I think William might have eventually married her.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 16, 2014 1:28:13 GMT
I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. I think she was trying to steer William towards herself-Julia was married and since divorce wasn't an option back then, Julia was a non-starter, and absolutely unattainable. Not even William was holding out hope for her anymore, and while still in love with Julia, he was trying to explore other options. Trying is the operative word here... I think if Anna had stayed in Toronto, I think William might have eventually married her. Of all the women, other than Julia, Anna is the only one William had a real connection with. I think you're right, if she'd stayed in Toronto he would have had a real relationship with her and married her had Julia stayed unavailable. I always thought she brought out a lighter side of William.
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Post by snacky on Dec 16, 2014 6:02:02 GMT
Has anyone noted yet that Anna tells William that women marry for different reasons (before they start snogging). So she gives him some hope that Julia's true feelings might not reside with Darcy. I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. Now that's an interesting take: I never thought of Anna caring for William so much that she was actually trying to repair his relationship with Julia....
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Post by snacky on Dec 16, 2014 6:15:05 GMT
I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. I think she was trying to steer William towards herself-Julia was married and since divorce wasn't an option back then, Julia was a non-starter, and absolutely unattainable. Not even William was holding out hope for her anymore, and while still in love with Julia, he was trying to explore other options. Trying is the operative word here... I think if Anna had stayed in Toronto, I think William might have eventually married her. I don't think William would have ever married Anna. First of all, look how long it took him to propose to Julia! Also, as much fun as he has with Anna, I think William realized his heart was still with Julia. He would not have proposed to another woman while he wasn't sure his heart was in it. Take how he broke up with Enid, for example. He wasn't sure he could get Julia back at that time, or if Julia was dating Reginald Poundsett. Yet he had to go ahead and break up with Enid because he couldn't be mentally true to her. Also, Anna is a worldly wise woman. The first time William murmurs Julia's name mid-nookie (no longer "out of William experience" excuse), she will realize that his head isn't in her game, and she will want to cut her losses.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 16, 2014 6:30:54 GMT
I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. I think she was trying to steer William towards herself-Julia was married and since divorce wasn't an option back then, Julia was a non-starter, and absolutely unattainable. Not even William was holding out hope for her anymore, and while still in love with Julia, he was trying to explore other options. Trying is the operative word here... I think if Anna had stayed in Toronto, I think William might have eventually married her. I have to disagree. Anna accepted the fact that William loved Julia when he regained his memory in Bristol. When she came to Toronto she was engaged to the man the Black Hand killed. When she came back to Toronto she and William may have slept together but anyone could see that he sill loved Julia. However, (you knew there was a "however" coming) remember all the times Williams refused to go to bed with Julia because he didn't want to disrespect her, or ruin her reputation, or some other moral/religious reason. Julia could not get that man into bed and when they stayed at the hotel they played dominoes for goodness' sake. Now I have to wonder if William would have taken Anna to bed what it would have meant. Did he not respect her to the same degree he respected Julia? The question arises, imho, because the writers messed it up. The implication is certainly there, but if they did that opens a whole can of worms about William. Did he respect Anna less than Julia? That doesn't sound right to me because William is nothing if not stalwart. It is a thorny issue, to be sure.
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 16, 2014 6:35:47 GMT
I think that Anna cared for William quite a bit, but she was wise enough to understand that his heart belonged to Julia. Yes, IMO she was trying to guide him to Julia, and she was the one who helped Anna escape which increased the connection between William and Julia even more. Now that's an interesting take: I never thought of Anna caring for William so much that she was actually trying to repair his relationship with Julia.... I think she was realistic enough to understand that William loved Julia just as much as he did when he regained his memory in Bristol and she took that very well. Anna is nobody's fool and she knew that marrying William would be a mistake because he would always love Julia.
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Post by lea on Aug 10, 2015 1:13:23 GMT
Another ep a day! Happy to finally be at this episode! 1. I'm so into the episode that I forgot to make note of things... oops! Unfortunate for Anna that the same time she turns up is also the same time William bumps into Julia for the first time since she left. 2. This episode has a lot going on, essentially three plots, but it seems to work. 3. I love Julia being arrested in this episode. Especially the fact that George refused to lock the cell. 4. William isn't going to be late for no reason and he's generally one to explain his actions, yet this time he didn't. He must have spent the night with her. 5. Others were discussing whether Anna would have married William. She certainly got engaged to the man that got her into all of this trouble quickly. She didn't even really know what he did for a living! I do think if she hadn't left they would have at least courted for quite some time. Perhaps married even though William is so slow
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Post by snacky on Aug 10, 2015 6:24:12 GMT
5. Others were discussing whether Anna would have married William. She certainly got engaged to the man that got her into all of this trouble quickly. She didn't even really know what he did for a living! I do think if she hadn't left they would have at least courted for quite some time. Perhaps married even though William is so slow I mentioned before that I found librarian an odd new career for Anna. I think it was an attempt to give her a bit more education - and this would have made her self-educated like William. By doing this, she did become more serious competition for Julia. I always got the feeling the producers and/or the writers were desperately trying to disempower Julia in this equation. This makes me wonder if the real problem here is the model used for the acting profession in Canada (and the U.S.). At least William's role can never be de-emphasized or made redundant!
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Post by lea on Aug 10, 2015 15:38:01 GMT
5. Others were discussing whether Anna would have married William. She certainly got engaged to the man that got her into all of this trouble quickly. She didn't even really know what he did for a living! I do think if she hadn't left they would have at least courted for quite some time. Perhaps married even though William is so slow I mentioned before that I found librarian an odd new career for Anna. I think it was an attempt to give her a bit more education - and this would have made her self-educated like William. By doing this, she did become more serious competition for Julia. I always got the feeling the producers and/or the writers were desperately trying to disempower Julia in this equation. This makes me wonder if the real problem here is the model used for the acting profession in Canada (and the U.S.). At least William's role can never be de-emphasized or made redundant! It is a bit of an odd career choice. She ran a pub and seemed to like adventure. She never hesitated being involved in William's cases and helping him chase down bad guys. Making her somewhat of an intellectual equal would likely be why she became a librarian!
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Post by Hodge on Aug 10, 2015 16:22:44 GMT
I mentioned before that I found librarian an odd new career for Anna. I think it was an attempt to give her a bit more education - and this would have made her self-educated like William. By doing this, she did become more serious competition for Julia. I always got the feeling the producers and/or the writers were desperately trying to disempower Julia in this equation. This makes me wonder if the real problem here is the model used for the acting profession in Canada (and the U.S.). At least William's role can never be de-emphasized or made redundant! It is a bit of an odd career choice. She ran a pub and seemed to like adventure. She never hesitated being involved in William's cases and helping him chase down bad guys. Making her somewhat of an intellectual equal would likely be why she became a librarian! The pub was her father's and she said it wasn't where her heart was, she took the first opportunity to get out of it. We don't know what she did before she took over the pub and she certainly didn't come across as stupid despite getting engaged at the drop of a hat. For all we know she could have been a librarian before she took over the pub. Better to be self employed and a pub would have been a lucrative business.
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Post by lea on Aug 10, 2015 17:48:05 GMT
It is a bit of an odd career choice. She ran a pub and seemed to like adventure. She never hesitated being involved in William's cases and helping him chase down bad guys. Making her somewhat of an intellectual equal would likely be why she became a librarian! The pub was her father's and she said it wasn't where her heart was, she took the first opportunity to get out of it. We don't know what she did before she took over the pub and she certainly didn't come across as stupid despite getting engaged at the drop of a hat. For all we know she could have been a librarian before she took over the pub. Better to be self employed and a pub would have been a lucrative business. Very true!
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