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Post by hannikan on May 19, 2013 3:37:23 GMT
Yes, I think the zombies will be something George comes up with like the werewolves, ghosts, vampires, etc... It could be a fun plot and a wink at the Walking Dead, which is so popular. They've done that same kind of nod to pop culture stuff before (ie: Twilight in Bloodlust). They talked about zombies Curse of Beaton Manor. I think they could reference back to that, but take it in a different direction. I'm looking forward to the Newfoundland plot and the American president. I hope it's Teddy Roosevelt just because that was my idea.  So they may have taken it from me since Christina mentioned that they do consider ideas fans share on message boards. But he's also the president in this period that would make the most sense. The sunken ship I hope will be where we actually see the shipwreck under water. And maybe will be off Nova Scotia? That would be great!  I'm thinking about 6 months will have passed since S6 at the beginning of S7. So by the middle of S7, a year will have passed and I think that's how long Julia will need to grieve and have closure from the guilt. More than likely there will be a break btwn the first nine episodes and the last nine in S7. So if Julia and William marry in the 9th episode, right before the break, there would be time to have them take in an orphaned child in the later episodes of S7. |
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Post by shangas on May 19, 2013 5:40:44 GMT
President in 1901 was Teddy Roosevelt. He took over from McKinley when he was assassinated.
Victorian mourning customs were very strict. For a period of at least 18 months (in some cases, two years), a widow was expected to go into "Full Mourning".
Full Mourning meant wearing black. It also meant abstaining from work, and society. You didn't go to parties, you didn't attend dinners. You didn't invite people over to the house. You didn't go to the dance-hall for a knees-up.
After that, for a period of, I think 6 months to a year, you went into "Half Mourning". Half-mourning meant that you were expected to wear at least SOMETHING which was black (such as a dress or a veil), and you could start resuming your regular life again.
In some cases, mourning-customs were rather relaxed. For example, if a husband died and his wife had to carry on the family business, then people in the neighbourhood would understand that she wasn't in mourning because she simply didn't have the TIME to sit around crying. She had to run the shop, or the restaurant, or whatever venture they had going. If she had children who could help, then perhaps she'd remain in mourning, but if not, then she HAD to go back to work and stuff the rules.
But generally, it was considered in bad taste for a woman, or a man, not to mourn for at least a certain period of time (at least a year, I think). But then, the Victorians were notoriously straitlaced about all this stuff.
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Post by hannikan on May 19, 2013 5:50:29 GMT
Yes, I know all that. But Julia's already been thought to be in bad taste in society due to the supposed affair with Murdoch that has been made publicly known. So I don't think she's going to care about the formality of the official mourning customs nearly so much as her own time to grieve and get past the guilt of the fact that Darcy was an innocent victim in Gillies revenge on William by way of her relationship with him. I agree that she will wear black and then dark colors for quite awhile, but she won't cloister herself from society and her work for the full length of time women were generally expected to then.
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Post by shangas on May 19, 2013 8:40:29 GMT
I'm not saying that she would. I'm saying that's what was EXPECTED.
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Post by jj1 on May 19, 2013 9:18:46 GMT
it should be mckinley has he was not assassinted until september 1901 in buffalo new york
up until then teddy roosevelt would be the vice president
like the idea of new foundland but not the zombies has for the sunken ship must look into that because a lot of ships from the wars between the british and the french also 1812 war where lost around the coastline
also has for mourning in black queen victoria didn't wear any other coluor after albert's death
even in the company of mr brown if we are heading towards 1901 then we must have the death of queen victoria and the crowning of edward (march 1901 )
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Post by jj1 on May 19, 2013 10:49:22 GMT
iethe sunken ship
the machault was scuttled in battle in 1760 at restigouche river
the nancy in1814 to prevent capture war 1812
if new foundland loads where sunk (cape race)ss anglo saxon 1863
aeneas 1805 h.m.s duchess of cumberland 1781
san juan 1565 and the h.m.s. sapphire 1696 to prevent capture by the french bit of a history greek but i come from a town in the uk at has the sea in its blood
and we could also have william going back to 1912 and seeing the big ship hit the iceburg
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on May 19, 2013 17:16:06 GMT
Yannick also said yesterday in the Mystery Solved that Murdoch will get jealous of the amount of time George is spending with Emily. So looks like things will be developing for them.
Also, the Newfoundland hint may have to do with the Marconi telegraph - ATM I can't remember the details but I know it was important.
Anyone else been searching for big ships that sank in 1901?
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Post by LaurenMurdoch on May 19, 2013 17:18:23 GMT
Sorry for the double post, but does anyone know why Thomas didn't attend the Canada Lives Here Experience yesterday? I'm thinking that he's just still in England, which makes me wonder if he will be there when they start filming this week. There was a suggested plot of Brackenreid being in England for the first few episodes. Maybe they're partially filming there?
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Post by hannikan on May 20, 2013 1:36:07 GMT
I think he's probably just still in England until they start filming, yeah. They've had the 1st read through a couple of days ago, but not full on filming last I heard. Just because they say that an American president will appear, it doesn't mean he will already be president necessarily when he appears. He could certainly appear while he's still VP. It's more fun really, when the famous person appears on MM before they were at the height of their fame. Like with Winston Churchill. It could be McKinley, but since Teddy is so much better known internationally, I doubt it. McKinley was already mentioned in S5 anyway. Unless they want to do something again with the anarchists, there wouldn't be much reason to incorporate him. The person who assassinated McKinley claimed to be an anarchist. Besides, there will most likely be several months of a time gap btwn S6 and S7, so it very possibly could be after Sept 1901 when he appears. I think you're right about the Marconi telegraph and the NFL plot. I still hope it will tie in to George's background somehow. And I still hope we have an ep on Nova Scotia with L.M. Montgomery.
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Post by jj1 on May 20, 2013 9:58:35 GMT
who's to say its the president of the day it could be a future president
franklin d roosevelt(1882/1945)william taft woodrow wilson benjamin harrison just before his death in 1901
i hope its a young franklin d
has for the marconi issue the work he did was with the british electical engineer william preece(later sir)
of the british post office who work along side him preece studied under michael faraday
and marconi sailed aboard h.m.s philidelphia which sunk in the atlantic he wasn't on board
i think sometimes us brits feel we don't matter now/ shaftsbury without the british networks help(alibi a small network on a large cable channel sky) maybe it wouldn't be has big a show has it is
sorry for my little rant but make us feel apart of a show that we think is partly ours
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Post by barbarama on May 20, 2013 15:34:45 GMT
Can someone clarifies something for me in the board as Cosmic Cavalcade and myself are in disagreement about timeline. She says that the end of season 6 happened in 1901 and I say it is still in the summer of 1900, I know it's not "official" but can someone please confirm who is right (I'm really hoping it's me just to rub it in to her  !! ) Thanks in advance |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 20, 2013 17:55:23 GMT
Okay here is my reasoning for S6 ending in the spring or summer of 1901.
Fact: S5 ended on Jan.1 of 1900.
Fact: Julia went away to Vienna to study with Freud before S6 started.
Fact: Every season spans around a year's worth of time.
Case closed.
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Post by jj1 on May 20, 2013 19:48:26 GMT
have to agree with barbarama
it can't be 1901 i think its half way coming up to late september
in toyland s5 on gillies gravestone it was october1899
so if it span's ayear then late september 1900
didn't julia only go away for 6wks
and also if its spring or summer 1901 then it can't be called a victorian mystery has we would be in edwardian times
just my take on it
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Post by barbarama on May 20, 2013 20:09:53 GMT
Thanks jj1!!!!!, score so far Cosmic Cavalcade = 0; Barbarama = 1 (keep them coming people I would love to be right on this one just because......) |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 20, 2013 21:48:21 GMT
have to agree with barbarama it can't be 1901 i think its half way coming up to late september in toyland s5 on gillies gravestone it was october1899 so if it span's ayear then late september 1900 didn't julia only go away for 6wks and also if its spring or summer 1901 then it can't be called a victorian mystery has we would be in edwardian times just my take on it Yeah but the season ended on new years.... As to how long she was gone, did they actually say that in the show? Assuming that is right, she still would have had to have made travel arrangements and whatnot and I doubt she would have done so immediately after new years eve. So it would have to be at least 2 months into 1900 by the time she came back. So early March at the earliest. And this is the point that the season starts, so the year is taken from here, making it at least March of 1901 when S6 ended. I will concede that I was pushing the summer idea. Well, it was going to become an Edwardian Mystery series if it ran long enough. Queen Victoria died in early 1901. Sort of weird that we celebrate Victoria Day today then. Thanks for your input though. |
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So they may have taken it from me since Christina mentioned that they do consider ideas fans share on message boards. But he's also the president in this period that would make the most sense. The sunken ship I hope will be where we actually see the shipwreck under water. And maybe will be off Nova Scotia? That would be great! 
I'm thinking about 6 months will have passed since S6 at the beginning of S7. So by the middle of S7, a year will have passed and I think that's how long Julia will need to grieve and have closure from the guilt. More than likely there will be a break btwn the first nine episodes and the last nine in S7. So if Julia and William marry in the 9th episode, right before the break, there would be time to have them take in an orphaned child in the later episodes of S7.
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