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Post by LaurenMurdoch on Oct 29, 2013 2:08:06 GMT
- Series 7 - Eps 6 - Murdochophobia Detective Murdoch investigates the death of one of Dr. Julia Ogden's phobia patients, but can Murdoch overcome his own phobia to solve the case? Guest star: Tara Spencer-Nairn
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Post by shangas on Nov 5, 2013 10:29:24 GMT
Very interesting episode. I also have mild arachnaphobia. Although nothing that would make me dive out a window.
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Post by barbarama on Nov 5, 2013 13:31:48 GMT
This was truly a beautiful episode. I'm bias though because Julia being my favorite character having her this much in the episode was wonderful as well as seeing her more in her professional environment, it was very well included within the investigation. So far for me it has been the best episode that Maureen Jennings & Peter Mitchell have written together and I love Cal Coons' as a director (the last scene was absolutely gorgeous) and the best episode of the season. The fact that the show talks openly again about homosexuality is something I admire because they could have just done it once in Season 1 and that's it…but the writers are not afraid to deal with controversial subjects for the period the show is set in and I'm very proud to see that being shown. George & Emily's scenes were funny (especially the Higgins' part) and I could also say tender when George discovered that Webster wasn't dead after all…well until he met its fate with Brakenreid Julia & William haven't reached yet the level of romance I'm expecting (even though this episode had more sweet moments between them than any other…or maybe with "Murdoch Ahoy") so being a woman of my words I did watch the episode and drank a bit to take some of the frustration off I did laugh when I discovered that William was afraid of butterflies (it was a dead butterfly in the final episode of season 2 so it's not the same), but the last scene between William & Julia was so touching that I was glad he could open up a bit about the trauma of his mother's death. A fabulous episode that will sustain me for the next 2 weeks
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Post by murdochic on Nov 5, 2013 14:55:07 GMT
That was such a sad episode. I felt so sorry for Pauline, I hope now she's truly free of her horrible husband and she can have a life were she's happily herself. The husband was evil and I hope he was convicted for something. I really like Julia's attitude to gay characters, she's so accepting and nice. And she really wanted to save Pauline from her miserable marriage. She's a good psychiatrist and a lovely person. I'm not sure how any viewers can dislike her.
I liked how William and Julia helped each other through worries and fears. They may not be a proper couple at the moment but it's nice to see them be emotionally intimate on some levels. The W/J hug and the end scene were very touching. Poor William.
Poor George and Webster. I still wish Higgins would get more scenes though.
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Post by carco on Nov 5, 2013 16:55:22 GMT
I loved this episode and I'm sure it will be one of those that I get more and more attached to, each time I view it. The mystery storyline was very good as I knew it would be with Maureen Jennings involved in the writing. One of the few episodes (I believe) where so much focus was around the negativity that women like Julia had to deal with at that time in history, in just being a woman trying to make a career in a man's world. Not only in being a Doctor, but she has chosen to pursue psychiatry at a time when it was still a highly questionable field for a man or woman to take up. She was hitting brick walls on all fronts last night. Even Emily was not sold on what Julia was doing. Julia's patients were abandoning her as well as their families, an associate Dr. was trying to get her removed from her position...thank goodness for Dr. Clarke's professional support and William's all inclusive support. I think their embrace in William's office was even better than the "elusive" kiss that I've been waiting for. In the context of that scene, it spoke volumes about where their relationship is at and it's depth. Whatever else is going on around them, each knows they aren't alone. As Helene mentioned, this year they are navigating through their careers individually (Julia especially) but they are coming to the realization that they have each other's back. I have no doubts about this relationship and where it's going now. I was surprised by the butterflies phobia and got a chuckle at his description on how they fly - first right, then left, then straight at you. But sad to learn why he doesn't like them. I could go on and on..bottom line is I really, really liked this episode.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 18:21:58 GMT
I know that when I feel a tension and I can't take my eyes off the screen that this is going to be a good episode. Last night's story was one of those! I only started to watch MM this last January, and I spent all summer watching the previous seasons, so I am still catching up to all of you who have seen everything multiple times, but I found this episode unique in its focus on Julia and her practice. I was getting upset for her as tragedy forced her methods of treatment to be questioned by all. As someone who has had a little experience with modern psychiatry, and is aware of the history of same, it is harrowing to watch someone with true compassion being put down by colleagues. It was no surprise that Maureen Jennings was involved in the writing (thanks Barbarama, for that info). Well done. I will definitely be watching it more.
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Post by barbarama on Nov 5, 2013 22:20:48 GMT
Regarding Maureen co-writing the episode with Peter Mitchell, this is the 3rd time they do that; I really didn't like the one they did in Season 5 "Staircase to Heaven", don't know if you've seen it yet. However I liked the one in season 6 "Victoria Cross", but the one from last night is my favorite so far of the scripts she had co-written and definitely my favorite episode...if they continue to get this good or even better this will be a great season (I just need to have the passion back and it will be outstanding!!!)
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Post by carolion on Nov 5, 2013 23:30:18 GMT
What a brilliant actor Yannick is. The scene at the end was heart breaking and joyous at the same time. I love way he conveyed those emotions. As many of you have said, it was great to have a Julia focussed episode that portrayed many of the issues that women of all types were facing back then. The protagonist was well thought out and wasn't easy to pick and so was the method of the crime. I really liked how William was more accepting of the gay/lesbian couple. Julia is obviously rubbing off on him. The whole George/Emily/Webster story was just sooooo cute/funny. I wonder if Higgins got stood up and if George will every forgive Brackenreid, even if Websters demise was unintentional? But my favourite funny moment was William explaining his phobia to Julia and how dragon flies were different 'because they just were!'. I roared with laughter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 19:35:09 GMT
Regarding Maureen co-writing the episode with Peter Mitchell, this is the 3rd time they do that; I really didn't like the one they did in Season 5 "Staircase to Heaven", don't know if you've seen it yet. However I liked the one in season 6 "Victoria Cross", but the one from last night is my favorite so far of the scripts she had co-written and definitely my favorite episode...if they continue to get this good or even better this will be a great season (I just need to have the passion back and it will be outstanding!!!) I have only seen Staircase to Heaven once. My recollection is that it was a pretty dark story involving Dr. Grace and a card game where the winner gets to be frozen. Weird. I agree with you on that one. I will have to watch Victoria Cross again to remember it. I am so glad that Maureen Jennings gets to be involved in the series. There are large differences between the books and the show, and I hope she doesn't mind!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2013 19:52:27 GMT
That was such a sad episode. I felt so sorry for Pauline, I hope now she's truly free of her horrible husband and she can have a life were she's happily herself. The husband was evil and I hope he was convicted for something. I really like Julia's attitude to gay characters, she's so accepting and nice. And she really wanted to save Pauline from her miserable marriage. She's a good psychiatrist and a lovely person. I'm not sure how any viewers can dislike her. I liked how William and Julia helped each other through worries and fears. They may not be a proper couple at the moment but it's nice to see them be emotionally intimate on some levels. The W/J hug and the end scene were very touching. Poor William. Poor George and Webster. I still wish Higgins would get more scenes though. I was watching this with my husband, who is also a big fan (I converted him!) Up until not too long ago, a husband could not be accused of raping his wife even if she refused him. It is still harrowing to watch and realize that Julia knew exactly what she was up against. I agree with you on Julia: she accepts the human condition without judgement. The world would be a better place with more people like that!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 6, 2013 20:23:49 GMT
Regarding Maureen co-writing the episode with Peter Mitchell, this is the 3rd time they do that; I really didn't like the one they did in Season 5 "Staircase to Heaven", don't know if you've seen it yet. However I liked the one in season 6 "Victoria Cross", but the one from last night is my favorite so far of the scripts she had co-written and definitely my favorite episode...if they continue to get this good or even better this will be a great season (I just need to have the passion back and it will be outstanding!!!) Definitely agree that this one is my fave out of the co-written plots. Like this ep, Staircase to Heaven tried to have a poignant ending but it was just bizarre IMO. And apparently the lines they wrote for George about Murdoch's foibles were a lot harsher than what was aired. It was only because Jonny disagreed with them that some of the lines were changed.
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Post by murdochic on Nov 6, 2013 20:25:07 GMT
I wasn't a fan of Stairway to Heaven. The weakest of Jennings episodes IMO.
I thought it was so commendable Julia didn't want Pauline to go home so her husband could force himself on her. Because like you said, in those days that was considered legally and morally acceptable. But Julia is such an open-minded and caring person for her it's not acceptable. She see's people as people regardless of class, race, orientation or age. I've always loved that about her character.
Did anyone else think Emily seemed slightly callous in this is episode? I know she didn't kill Webster in the end, and I was glad. But I thought she seemed rather cold blooded before that. And she didn't support Julia which wasn't a tick in her box. I still like her, but she is definitely not perfect.
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Post by barbarama on Nov 6, 2013 21:26:49 GMT
Murdochic's quote: "But Julia is such an open-minded and caring person for her it's not acceptable. She see's people as people regardless of class, race, orientation or age. I've always loved that about her character".
That is why she's my favorite character, she might be written very progressive and maybe unrealistic for the time period but I'm sure women like this existed in that era even though they might have not be this outspoken..and it is because of women like the character of Julia that we have the opportunities and freedom right now (at least in most industrialized countries)
Murdochic's quote: "Did anyone else think Emily seemed slightly callous in this is episode? I know she didn't kill Webster in the end, and I was glad. But I thought she seemed rather cold blooded before that. And she didn't support Julia which wasn't a tick in her box. I still like her, but she is definitely not perfect."
I did definitely, she was short with almost everybody in this episode...sometimes her little bit of "know it all" attitude gets on my nerve...however she did redeem herself (at least for me) when she looked sweetly at George when he discovered Webster was alive (even though it didn't last long :/ ) I thought it was a charming moment...however it is very rare when Emily captures my interest and it usually doesn't last that long
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Post by murdochic on Nov 6, 2013 22:42:36 GMT
There were progressive women in that time period. And progressive men. It's not that unrealistic. You do find historical accounts of these people and they were very forward thinking for the period.
I wasn't interested in the G/E moment, as you know they do literally nothing for me lol. But she did redeem herself somewhat when she didn't kill Webster. But I do find her less empathetic and compassionate than Julia.
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Post by barbarama on Nov 7, 2013 2:33:36 GMT
Emily is quite cold indeed as a person (for me anyway), and she said herself in season 5 that she didn't have "Bedside manners" for a doctor and probably enjoys it more that her "patients" can't speak anymore Julia can be opinionated and stubborn from time to time but you can see how much she cares not only about William, but her work, patients and people in general…I definitely can't say the same with Emily
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