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Post by snacky on Jun 19, 2014 5:02:20 GMT
What I'm waiting to see in the wedding preamble is a more realistic physical relationship between them. I don't believe that William's Catholicism precludes premarital sex. His point about not compromising Julia only applied to them having an adulterous relationship while she was still married to Darcy. For 2 seasons running they didn't hear about being renewed until after they had wrapped up filming. I guess having been watching through all that external drama gave me more tolerance for the writing blips over the ship than someone who is unaware of the network politics. I don't think William's Catholicism precludes premarital sex but it might change how he views Julia, and it might make Julia a matter of sin he has to confess. Also he came on so strong that first time, it might have been hard for Julia to figure out where she could open the door again. But I like to think that the door didn't remain closed and that Bloodlust was more of a memory than wishful thinking.  Regarding the perils of funding, all true fans can do is be supportive and hope the fan base develops to support stable funding. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jun 19, 2014 18:47:49 GMT
I don't think any 40ish Catholic man would have a problem confessing lustful thoughts or deeds (woo hoo) towards his fiancee. It's about bloody well time after all. I choose to believe that William made a fundamental shift in the balance between his relationship with Julia and his relationship with God when he decided that he would stand by her if she divorced Darcy. I'm not sure that William "came on so strong that first time". They had both been "living in their heads" about it for some time before it happened and it was Julia who brought up 'protection'. My read on it was William had no intention of taking it any further and was surprised by Julia's boldness. I think snacky suggested in another thread that Julia was using that as a tactic to cool things down in the moment. It's possible but I'm not buying it. She's the one with more experience after all. (Ok, that too could be argued either way), but that's my answer and I'm sticking with it  |
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Post by snacky on Jun 19, 2014 23:52:48 GMT
My read on it was William had no intention of taking it any further and was surprised by Julia's boldness. I think snacky suggested in another thread that Julia was using that as a tactic to cool things down in the moment. It's possible but I'm not buying it. She's the one with more experience after all. I don't think William was in any condition to examine his intentions. XD Speaking from personal experience, even if I'm REALLY into a guy, and could envision marrying him on the first date, I usually don't want to go all the way with him on the first date. Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, though. While I'm not particularly religious myself, I did grow up in a religious, conservative area: perhaps I imbibed the inhibitions? What I do know is that I had a lot more "defenses" at my disposal if I chose to say no then younger girls do these day. But for older women who are "experienced", it's a whole difference story: they were "willing" then, why not now? For whatever reason, I think Julia just didn't want to go all the way that night. But that doesn't mean their dates didn't "progress" soon thereafter. It's a shame there were no indicators of progress during Season 3, though. I still regard Bloodlust as a memory. |
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Post by lovemondays on Jun 20, 2014 2:29:27 GMT
My read on it was William had no intention of taking it any further and was surprised by Julia's boldness. I think snacky suggested in another thread that Julia was using that as a tactic to cool things down in the moment. It's possible but I'm not buying it. She's the one with more experience after all. I don't think William was in any condition to examine his intentions. XD Speaking from personal experience, even if I'm REALLY into a guy, and could envision marrying him on the first date, I usually don't want to go all the way with him on the first date. Perhaps I'm old-fashioned, though. While I'm not particularly religious myself, I did grow up in a religious, conservative area: perhaps I imbibed the inhibitions? What I do know is that I had a lot more "defenses" at my disposal if I chose to say no then younger girls do these day. But for older women who are "experienced", it's a whole difference story: they were "willing" then, why not now? For whatever reason, I think Julia just didn't want to go all the way that night. But that doesn't mean their dates didn't "progress" soon thereafter. It's a shame there were no indicators of progress during Season 3, though. I still regard Bloodlust as a memory. The reasons I view the bodice ripping as Julia's fantasy rather than a memory are a) William's earlier confusion about female dark places and b) it was interrupted by Darcy. If they had indulged in that level of spontaneous lust William wouldn't have asked the question and Julia wouldn't have looked so startled when she came back to reality. More of those fantasies please writers!! |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jun 20, 2014 3:36:51 GMT
I think snacky was just saying it was wishful thinking on her part.
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Post by snacky on Jun 20, 2014 4:51:33 GMT
No I meant Julia was drawing on a memory, but lovemondays is right: that would be inconsistent with the "dark places" line of reasoning of Julia's frustration.
So, you think they did get it on, but not as passionate as Julia would have liked it to be?
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Post by lovemondays on Jun 22, 2014 17:31:32 GMT
My shipper soul definitely thinks they've gotten it on but not very much. With both of them being so emotionally repressed, my take is that those few times were of a more cautious tone. I think William in particular needs to be safely within the bounds of marriage to let his bodice ripping dark places to emerge.
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Post by snacky on Jun 22, 2014 18:42:10 GMT
My shipper soul definitely thinks they've gotten it on but not very much. With both of them being so emotionally repressed, my take is that those few times were of a more cautious tone. I think William in particular needs to be safely within the bounds of marriage to let his bodice ripping dark places to emerge. Or...Julia has found a way to slip a little gin in him once in a while~  |
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