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Post by snacky on Jul 15, 2014 16:06:32 GMT
At this point I really couldn't care less what she's wearing. I just want this thing to finally happen! As much as I would love a fabulous frock, I'll concur. I love my angst, but, enough is enough.  If you're only on the Tesla Effect, then you aren't even through half the angst, LOL.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jul 16, 2014 5:18:17 GMT
As much as I would love a fabulous frock, I'll concur. I love my angst, but, enough is enough. If you're only on the Tesla Effect, then you aren't even through half the angst, LOL. Oh, I'm not watching them in order. I'm all over the place. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 16, 2014 5:24:50 GMT
Oh, I'm not watching them in order. I'm all over the place. Using any particular principle as a guide? I remember looking for all the kissing scenes first, lol. It turned out being worth watching them in order: there really is something worthy in every single episode. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jul 16, 2014 5:33:57 GMT
Oh, I'm not watching them in order. I'm all over the place. Using any particular principle as a guide? I remember looking for all the kissing scenes first, lol. It turned out being worth watching them in order: there really is something worthy in every single episode. As folks mention them, I'm intrigued, and immediately go off and watch said episode. I've now done most of season 3. Oh, the angst in the last few eps. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 16, 2014 5:54:37 GMT
I've now done most of season 3. Oh, the angst in the last few eps. The Tesla Effect is really sooooooooo cruuuueeel.  But if you watch it alone, you're like: What the hell, Julia, how could you do that to William? You made him cry!  However, if you watch the whole season, you realize that William was kind of dragging his feet while Julia was dropping hints. And also, he did clearly want children, so she had reason to be paranoid about how it would all turn out. I don't think Julia gave William enough time to come to terms with the situation in The Tesla Effect though. On the other hand, as traumatic as missing that train was, William shouldn't have waited to be invited to Buffalo. Julia clearly had no idea what he was thinking about their relationship while they were corresponding that whole time. No wonder she proceeded with the plan to "move on". |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jul 16, 2014 6:03:31 GMT
I've now done most of season 3. Oh, the angst in the last few eps. The Tesla Effect is really sooooooooo cruuuueeel. But if you watch it alone, you're like: What the hell, Julia, how could you do that to William? You made him cry! However, if you watch the whole season, you realize that William was kind of dragging his feet while Julia was dropping hints. And also, he did clearly want children, so she had reason to be paranoid about how it would all turn out. I don't think Julia gave William enough time to come to terms with the situation in The Tesla Effect though. On the other hand, as traumatic as missing that train was, William shouldn't have waited to be invited to Buffalo. Julia clearly had no idea what he was thinking about their relationship while they were corresponding that whole time. No wonder she proceeded with the plan to "move on". I know! I did watch it alone (hubby doesn't get my intense interest in MM) and William crying while she was resolute made me want to hit her. But out then, William stating that he didn't know what to say and just walked away made me want to hit him. However, I just watched the Murdoch Effect, and there was a line in there about how he was a cautious man, and that caution made him lose Julia, and he wouldn't be that cautious again. Or something to that effect. Is this to be considered canon? Because at the end of the series, they seem a couple again. When did this originally air? I'm confused.  |
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Post by snacky on Jul 16, 2014 6:20:45 GMT
But out then, William stating that he didn't know what to say and just walked away made me want to hit him. However, I just watched the Murdoch Effect, and there was a line in there about how he was a cautious man, and that caution made him lose Julia, and he wouldn't be that cautious again. Or something to that effect. Is this to be considered canon? Because at the end of the series, they seem a couple again. When did this originally air? I'm confused. I think William not knowing what to say when put on the (social) spot is consistent with the rest of his character. That's why I feel like Julia should have given him some space to put all the pieces together. The same thing happened in Shades of Grey!!! The cool thing about William is he often comes through with more tolerance and humanity than appearances once he thinks things through. In that way he's the opposite of Chief Constable Giles, who tends to work toward a foregone conclusion (though luckily he can have an epiphany, too). The Murdoch Effect is dated 2012, which is contemporary with Season 5, but I don't know when it was released. However, I would buy "caution" as being one of the reasons that William lost Julia from William's (i.e. the writers') perspective. One of the reasons The Kissing Bandit is obsessing me is that William is giving a different reason for losing Julia than Julia is giving for losing William. Just the way he talks about losing the woman one loves to a stranger that can "arouse her passions" - its like he might as well have been castrated! |
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Post by snacky on Jul 16, 2014 6:22:32 GMT
I know! I did watch it alone (hubby doesn't get my intense interest in MM) A few more sexy time youtube videos and the most indifferent male minds will relent.  |
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Post by lovemondays on Jul 18, 2014 23:03:09 GMT
I know! I did watch it alone (hubby doesn't get my intense interest in MM) A few more sexy time youtube videos and the most indifferent male minds will relent. Ha, the way to a man's interest in MM is through the MYSTERIES, not the ships. I my house the ship angle sends my guys running. I am saved from abandonment by georgeisclairvoyant who enjoys all aspects of the show! |
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Post by snacky on Jul 19, 2014 5:43:51 GMT
A few more sexy time youtube videos and the most indifferent male minds will relent. Ha, the way to a man's interest in MM is through the MYSTERIES, not the ships. I my house the ship angle sends my guys running. I am saved from abandonment by georgeisclairvoyant who enjoys all aspects of the show! Well if you start showing semi-nekkid women, then the guys come running back. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 19, 2014 14:31:47 GMT
I haven't had time to read all of your comments and maybe you have ever seen this picture and even shared a link but if you haven't/didn't... themurdochmysteries.tumblr.com/image/92179746563. But why is William so hasty?  Answer from Hélène JOY on Twitter: /photo/1. I liked the comment of Matt young. I quote: "Hands off Murdoch lol". And one homburg for Snacky! /photo/1. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 19, 2014 15:33:41 GMT
I haven't had time to read all of your comments and maybe you have ever seen this picture and even shared a link but if you haven't/didn't... themurdochmysteries.tumblr.com/image/92179746563. But why is William so hasty? Answer from Hélène JOY on Twitter: /photo/1. I liked the comment of Matt young. I quote: "Hands off Murdoch lol". And one homburg for Snacky! /photo/1. I haven't been able to chat much since my Mom is visiting this week, but I have seen the pictures. Love the boudoir shoes! I hope William isn't chasing a runaway bride! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 2:19:35 GMT
Hi carco I am referring to the picture with the bride sitting on the stairs. Has anyone else noticed how relaxed William is with Anna? When he was in Bristol he was actually normal and didn't seem to have any sexual hang-ups with her as I recall and in "A Walk on the Wild Side" he was very matter of fact about their relationship. The scene where they had dinner together appeared as though they were in either his rooms and they seemed so natural together. In a way they were a much better as a couple, but then we wouldn't have the "dramatic tension" to deal with. Yes, the early twentieth century brought a lot of change in a very short period of time, and the police would have to deal with that in their personal lives as well as their professional lives. All in all there is plenty of fodder for the series to draw from. (I mistakenly referred to these episodes as The Black Hand in a previous post.) Why is that the case, I wonder? If I may talk about the Stroll on the Wild eps.: I just watched them and yes I did certainly notice that William and Anna are quite cosy at dinner. The scene ends with a kiss and cuts to the next morning as William is late for work. He is very unhappy at the end, when she has to leave after the fake death scene. He was supposed to be grieving when the Black Hand guy was around but he continued to look stricken as he said his good byes. Does this mean that he and Anna did lots more than kiss? I think the writers want us to at least have the question in our minds. More fodder for the 40 year old virgin debate. I am inclined to think of William as not a virgin, but as a man of limited sexual experience who has a lot to learn. About the dress: well I hope they put her in something classy, and that all the stuff we're seeing is teasers. Call me hopelessly optimistic. |
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Post by mrsbrisby on Jul 20, 2014 6:06:30 GMT
Hi. You and I are both probably too optimistic, but what the heck. You might look at the episode in which William gets shanghaied to Bristol when he first meets Anna. YB did a great job of making that incarnation of our hero a completely different man and he wasn't the least bit shy about trying to get her into bed which make me wonder why is he is the way he is in Canada? It would drive Julia crazy if she knew how he behaved in England. He is such a tighta**.
citizencouture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Lead-wedding-dress1000-950x724.jpg www.gogmsite.net/_Media/1893_1895_dinner_gown_of_tu.jpg These two links go to two Worth wedding gowns. Interestingly, the second dress is more what I think of in earth 20th century haute couture, but then, I'm weird. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 20, 2014 16:27:38 GMT
Has anyone else noticed how relaxed William is with Anna? When he was in Bristol he was actually normal and didn't seem to have any sexual hang-ups with her as I recall and in "A Walk on the Wild Side" he was very matter of fact about their relationship. The scene where they had dinner together appeared as though they were in either his rooms and they seemed so natural together. In a way they were a much better as a couple, but then we wouldn't have the "dramatic tension" to deal with. If I may talk about the Stroll on the Wild eps.: I just watched them and yes I did certainly notice that William and Anna are quite cosy at dinner. The scene ends with a kiss and cuts to the next morning as William is late for work. He is very unhappy at the end, when she has to leave after the fake death scene. He was supposed to be grieving when the Black Hand guy was around but he continued to look stricken as he said his good byes. Does this mean that he and Anna did lots more than kiss? I think the writers want us to at least have the question in our minds. More fodder for the 40 year old virgin debate. I am inclined to think of William as not a virgin, but as a man of limited sexual experience who has a lot to learn. The writers of MURDOCH MYSTERIES suggested some scripts as an obstacle to the wedding of Julia and William; the first is Anna. www.facebook.com/MurdochOnCBC/photos/pb.278265358918600.-2207520000.1405263729./647509045327561/?type=1&theater-. Julia VS Anna: However she is a better rival than Enid -IMHO-, Anna has NO CHANCE and she was fully aware of it since she first met William in BRISTOL. (I also think that Anna couldn't fully accept to be in love with a man who loves with another woman, she respects herself . I liked this character.). William and Julia were a couple in "The MURDOCH Identity" episode:Yes, William was more relaxed with Anna, it could be explained by: - he was amnesic. He felt himself like another man; he was "Harry". - he met Anna outside his professional environment. - Anna is a pretty woman; she's friendly and pleasant and a far from timid young woman. - he was being chased by two men who wanted to kill him so he could have deduced that he came from the urban slums where the propriety was surely not his first concern. Moreover he didn't wear his jacket and his tie and he seemed to lost his hat too -which are the elements of a dress code- so he totally ignored -again!- the social class where he came from. BUT: - When William was kissing Anna, he stopped and he couldn't go further because he remembered Julia; he remembered her while he was amnesic and before remembering his true identity/who he was; a proof of his deep love -and respect- for her. - At the end, Anna couldn't deny that Harry was a little bit torn but William was eager to return to TORONTO and she said that admired his loyalty. - Despite the exceptional circumstances, he felt guilty of unfaithfulness. He was so ashamed of his little adventure than he hid it. Julia was engaged to Darcy in "The Black Hand" episode:- Anna cared for William's happiness and she seemed admit that he could be happy with Julia only and she referred to the way William spoke of Julia in BRISTOL, Anna had then the feeling they were destinated for each other. - Anna admitted to Julia that she was in love but she added that his heart belonged to another. - William is still in love with Julia. - At the end, William refused to see Anna again in order to protect their lives but I think he really meant to say goodbye to her good once for all. So -again!- Anna remained lucid about her love for William. Julia was married to Darcy in the "Stroll on the Wild Side" episode:Yes, William had dinner with Anna Fulford and they kissed. The very next day, Inspector BRACKENREID noticed that the very ponctual detective was late for the first time since he knew him. A way to tend us to think he had a "very good evening/night with a woman". BUT: - When Anna asked George what or rather who kept William back in TORONTO, we all knew the answer is Julia. - William can't stop loving Julia. - Anna didn't menage to convince William to leave TORONTO with her. We can't deny that William is attracted by Anna and we don't really know how William feels about her. But it would appear in any case that the love he feels for Julia is stronger than everything else. That's why it could be interesting to see how Julia could behave if she was jealous and she felt threatened/challenged by Anna and how she could make Anna understand that William belongs to her. We know they are both in love with William so they could fight for him. Of course, William wouldn't notice anything or rather he would notice that they both give more attention to him but he wouldn't understand the reason why. Indeed he is so in love with Julia than it would be unthinkable for him that another woman could be interested by him. It also could be interesting to see how Julia could prove that she still deserves the love of William after all the pain she put him through. |
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