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Post by mrsbrisby on Jul 22, 2014 20:04:22 GMT
It would be interesting to know if women in Canada combined their suffragette activities with the campaign to eliminate the side saddle. In the western US the two causes became interconnected not the least because both issues have to do with the subjugation of women.
An American woman, Mrs. Adolph Landenburg, was a noted horsewoman of her day and in 1902 she attended a hunt and surprised everyone by riding astride in her newly designed split skirt. From the badly exposed pic I saw, it looks like it was a sort of full skirt that had been made like big loose trousers and underneath she wore a pair of more tightly fitted trousers.
I love the name "Side Saddles and Suffragettes," an article I read a while ago.
My word, what would the men think -- women's suffrage and riding astride. The end is near! lol
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Post by fan2tvshows on Jul 22, 2014 20:54:12 GMT
I just find out that Carco had already shared the link in "Spotted: Magic Hambourg Protective Powers Down" thread. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jul 22, 2014 21:18:23 GMT
About a possible comeback of Anna with a child: there is NO WAY! Je refuse! ahahaha, it cracks me up you lapsed into "je refuse!"  Merci for putting this spin on things. Whenever I think about contraception and the Catholic church, I always think of women. Whenever I think of William and contraception, I always think of him enforcing Canadian law. It has never once occurred to me that William wouldn't use contraception because he's a Catholic, a Catholic MAN wouldn't use contraception.  However, there is that "modernity" issue and the fact William made some strange comments about carrying on at a later date. I do agree with you that William is a very responsible man. He's trying to enter the middle class career and build a middle class profession without a college education: he wouldn't mess that up with a pregnancy. It's still hard to imagine him as a 40 year old virgin, though! How serious are Catholic men about "the rules"? Maybe they break a few and confess later...? In my experience, most Catholic men I've known haven't had any problems with using contraception, because you know,  sexy time. A Catholic man, is still a man.  |
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Post by murdochic on Jul 22, 2014 21:37:34 GMT
William talked about condoms in the Green Muse, so he has obviously used them. He is not a virgin. Him and Julia have clearly been lovers. He may have slept with Anna, but I don't think they did sleep together. I'm rewatching MM right now and I've very recently seen Anna's last appearance and I don't think they had sex. Also, William wasn't in love with her. He cared deeply for her, but it didn't go further than that.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Jul 22, 2014 21:53:38 GMT
My basic thought was that he was attracted to her, but it never really developed. There just wasn't time, and when given the chance (Walk on the Wildside) he didn't pursue it because he wasn't over Julia.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Jul 22, 2014 22:07:46 GMT
William talked about condoms in the Green Muse, so he has obviously used them. He is not a virgin. Him and Julia have clearly been lovers. He may have slept with Anna, but I don't think they did sleep together. I'm rewatching MM right now and I've very recently seen Anna's last appearance and I don't think they had sex. Also, William wasn't in love with her. He cared deeply for her, but it didn't go further than that. Uh, just because he knew what they were doesn't mean he's used them before... |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 3:28:31 GMT
Plus, snacky gets her question answered. He takes the hat off.  Hard to see what he's doing with the tie~ |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 3:41:06 GMT
The MM Facebook page is just trying to stir up viewer speculation because they know wedding pictures have been posted online. They left out a classic: William and/or Julia get AMNESIA, and either William or Julia angst for a year trying to remind the other of their existence and their love, all the while worrying the other might actually fall for someone else while they are getting their memory back...or they never get their memory back! Wahahahah, so trite, so cruel, even more cliche'd than "it was all a dream". How could the writers miss that one? I have to say I was amused about how easily livid fans rose to the bait. Perhaps it was cruel for writers to toy with shipper feelings that way, but I do think it's shallow and kind of stupid to threaten to abandon the show over what was obviously a white board joke. In this time of CBC cutbacks, where the MM may even be looking at budget cuts, shouldn't we be giving the show all our support right now? The writers are only playing these jokes because shippers can be so ridiculous in their attempts to take control over the plot themselves. Just let the writers do their job! |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 3:51:28 GMT
William talked about condoms in the Green Muse, so he has obviously used them. While I don't think William is a virgin, either, I don't think this statement follows. William could have easily gained expertise on condoms the way he learns about everything else: reading a book, doing experiments on props (and perhaps on himself), etc. fan2tvshows brought up the interesting point that the Catholic ban on contraception applies to men as well as women. I agree William's behavior in The Green Muse is ambiguous. I think he is caught in a tug of war between Catholic beliefs and "modern" beliefs, and be might even believe, as well as do, conflicting things. Since his mind is driven by logic, he won't be able to maintain this conflict: he will need to sort it all out eventually. Regarding sex before marriage, my impression was Catholic guys usually went ahead with the sin and confessed their "weakness" later. However, since William was aspiring to middle class status without family background or a college education, I think he would be very careful not to get anyone pregnant unless he intended to marry them. I'm not sure about Anna: William seemed very disappointed when he found out Anna was engaged previously, and in Stroll on the Wild Side, he thought Julia was out of reach - he was supposed to be looking into other alternatives. If he could conceive of marrying Anna, then he could have slept with her and risked getting her pregnant. Not sure on the contraception. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 3:59:55 GMT
Yes, at the risk of invoking the Machismo stereotype, my impression is Catholic men are a little too preoccupied with sexy time: young, old, married, unmarried, straight, gay, high, low...it seems sex is on their mind more than the scientific average of 7 times a minute.  What's up with that? I'm generously interpreting that as a little too much infusion of Divine Love, lol. Anyway that's the observation I've been carrying into my Perv Thread on William. He's obviously maintains a very cool, logical, professional persona. But maybe there's something that's actually in Catholic teachings that encourages the "Latin Lover", and William is suppressing that most of the day? He certainly looked like he was rocking some Don Juan during The Green Muse. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 4:09:25 GMT
You can certainly watch that vid. It's done in Lego by a 10 year old boy. It's adorable and no spoilers. Enjoy! I shall post the vid here. OMG the "ship" is so "professional". Perfection! |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 4:12:40 GMT
LOL LOL LOL!No seriously, that was great! Loved the morgue scene...and poor Mr. Pendrick.  to please William/Julia shippers. His approach is rather direct to broach the subject. I thought his "mmmm" to be so soft and romantic! Perhaps Helena and Yannick should take note! lol, I agree - I hope Mr. Pendrick had a getaway car waiting under there...  |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 4:14:22 GMT
It's Julia who takes William's hat from his head and throws it away. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 4:21:09 GMT
But do you think William was in love with Anna?
at any time he loves Anna and it's also hard for me to think that he could play with the feelings of a woman and/or that he could make love to a woman without love. He is a gentleman; he has respect women.
So what to think about their relationship?
I don't think William loves Anna, but I think he may have explored his feelings for her just as he explored his feelings for Enid. When Julia married Darcy, she gave William no choice. Either he could remain a bachelor and pine for the married Julia or he could start searching for a woman to marry and start a family with. |
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Post by snacky on Jul 23, 2014 4:24:01 GMT
It would be interesting to know if women in Canada combined their suffragette activities with the campaign to eliminate the side saddle. In the western US the two causes became interconnected not the least because both issues have to do with the subjugation of women. An American woman, Mrs. Adolph Landenburg, was a noted horsewoman of her day and in 1902 she attended a hunt and surprised everyone by riding astride in her newly designed split skirt. From the badly exposed pic I saw, it looks like it was a sort of full skirt that had been made like big loose trousers and underneath she wore a pair of more tightly fitted trousers. I love the name "Side Saddles and Suffragettes," an article I read a while ago. My word, what would the men think -- women's suffrage and riding astride. The end is near! lol Didn't I also post something about split skirts in women's sports? I forgot which sport now. Was it skating? Anyway, I agree that was a big deal. I hope it comes up. |
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sexy time. A Catholic man, is still a man. 
