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Post by catymurdoch on May 5, 2012 15:25:46 GMT
Have you read the description of the next few episodes on Alibi's site? Based on what she will be doing in Murdoch in Toyland, I think I know what Julia's "new role" will be in S6. It could mean she'd go out more with William on his cases. But not as a detective exactly. It could be interesting though. Hannikan, I haven't read anything yet but I will and if it is the case , I am so happy . I watched the episodes so closely specially with what William and Julia are talking about that I hope they go that way. It is obvious that Julia likes to be with Murdoch no matter what, either in romantic relationship or solving the cases with him. It was clear in episode 2 season 5 that she likes to put her input into investigation and I would love them to become partners like Mulder and Scully were in the x-files because I think Julia and William could make a great team . Wasn't Scully more of a scientist like Julia is anyway and Mulder was following his truth ?but she was there for him at anytime to help him and although she was hired to debank his work to start with, she believed him. You see, I think Julia is the perfect partner for William and I can't wait to see her more involved in crimes and solving them with William. We could still see some great angst just like Mulder and Scully had in the x-files because we know that Julia and William come from different backgrounds. I am so chilled and so happy about it . It makes me so happy .I am just about to loose my job and I try to fight to get it back but those news are uplifting me . U see , sometimes opinitiated human beings can still go somewhere. Hip hip hip Hooray  |
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Post by hannikan on May 5, 2012 20:49:38 GMT
Yep, I see the Scully/Mulder comparison, too. I thought so from the beginning. Yeah, Scully was the scientist but she was also Catholic and so any of Mulder's wild ideas about aliens sounded impossible to her.
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Post by catymurdoch on May 5, 2012 22:14:57 GMT
yeah but at the end , they got together although the writers did play with the fans for a couple of years. This is what I am afraid of with MM . Why do all the show have to follow the same tactic? Because at the end , they loose anyway. Who is gonna buy the last 2 seasons of x-files for example with no Mulder in it! I didnt and I have until season 7. Not sure I would buy season 5 so far with hardlly any of Doctor Ogden in it!! even if 2 or 3 episodes were great unless they make it big at the end. I really hope that MM writers or producers are being more clever than any other shows I have seen so far. The end is always bad or quite bad and u sometimes need to wait for a movie to get resolution. We don't need that for MM. The writers are intelligent and I hope they will create stories like they did in season 1, 2 and 3. |
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Post by hannikan on May 5, 2012 23:32:20 GMT
Yeah, I stopped watching XF long before it ended.
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Post by catymurdoch on May 7, 2012 14:50:36 GMT
Let's hope for a great season 5 ending and a smashing season 6 MM. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on May 8, 2012 15:08:46 GMT
lol! You've got yourself quite mixed up there dear! First of all Paltrow was in the Iron Man movies with Robert Downey Jr, not the Sherlock ones. And secondly, i was refering more to the original Sherlock books than any modern update (though Irene is quite the vixen in the tv series currently playing). As to the rest of both your comments, i too hope they go down that road! It'd be a nice changeup for the next season. My only issue with it is that she'd go back to dealing in death again and we know how much she doesn't like that anymore. But i guess if she's with William, she won't care much what she's doing.  |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 8, 2014 14:42:15 GMT
I haven’t seen this episode in a while so forgive me if some of the details are off.
Julia dropped a big bombshell on William there with the unable to have kids thing, and expecting someone to react instantly to something like that is just unfair, it is something they need to think though. Especially William.
She shouldn’t have left like she did. She should have at least given him a chance-and talked with him one last time, if only to say goodbye. She owed him that after working together for around four years now. I think that the two of them could have made long distance work, all be it if the talk worked out favourable and William was able to propose.
But that wasn’t the case and our heart breaked for William as Julia walked away. But I feel that we never gave her a chance, did we ever consider that her heart was breaking? Julia knew William’s dreams for the future-a family and most especially kids, of which she couldn’t have. She let him go. She let him go, to go find someone new, who could give him his dreams of a family and kids. Something which she felt she could never give him.
And of course William should have gotten on the next train to Buffalo, not waited for six months. But I think the reason he didn’t was because he was respecting her decision, as much as it hurt him. But his problem was that he couldn’t let her go. I think that if this point if he did meet someone else, Julia would always be haunting him as the ghost of “what could have been”. Using a modern term, Julia was the one who got away.
There Jilliam stuff out of the way. Now onto the crime.
William is such a sucker for smart blondes, Anna, Julia, Sally and even Ruby to a certain extent. I think they are almost his archilles’ heel so to speak.
Sally was playing him from the beginning. She wrapped careful ropes around him and Pendrick, and in this episode chose to trip them both with it. And they both fell. Hard.
Anyway it was great seeing William getting all sciencey, and George pointing out practical uses for the invention, as per usual.
I’d like to still think we’d see Sally again one day. Having a female mastermind was a refreashing change, and I think dispite it all Pendrick and Murdoch might have mended a few bridges in this episode, as they were both suckered by the same woman.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 8, 2014 14:58:32 GMT
I haven’t seen this episode in a while so forgive me if some of the details are off. Julia dropped a big bombshell on William there with the unable to have kids thing, and expecting someone to react instantly to something like that is just unfair, it is something they need to think though. Especially William. She shouldn’t have left like she did. She should have at least given him a chance-and talked with him one last time, if only to say goodbye. She owed him that after working together for around four years now. I think that the two of them could have made long distance work, all be it if the talk worked out favourable and William was able to propose. But that wasn’t the case and our heart breaked for William as Julia walked away. But I feel that we never gave her a chance, did we ever consider that her heart was breaking? Julia knew William’s dreams for the future-a family and most especially kids, of which she couldn’t have. She let him go. She let him go, to go find someone new, who could give him his dreams of a family and kids. Something which she felt she could never give him. And of course William should have gotten on the next train to Buffalo, not waited for six months. But I think the reason he didn’t was because he was respecting her decision, as much as it hurt him. But his problem was that he couldn’t let her go. I think that if this point if he did meet someone else, Julia would always be haunting him as the ghost of “what could have been”. Using a modern term, Julia was the one who got away. There Jilliam stuff out of the way. Now onto the crime. William is such a sucker for smart blondes, Anna, Julia, Sally and even Ruby to a certain extent. I think they are almost his archilles’ heel so to speak. Sally was playing him from the beginning. She wrapped careful ropes around him and Pendrick, and in this episode chose to trip them both with it. And they both fell. Hard. Anyway it was great seeing William getting all sciencey, and George pointing out practical uses for the invention, as per usual. I’d like to still think we’d see Sally again one day. Having a female mastermind was a refreashing change, and I think dispite it all Pendrick and Murdoch might have mended a few bridges in this episode, as they were both suckered by the same woman. We've talked about this before, but yeah, it was cruel to drop a bomb on William and not give him a chance to process it, but we've also discussed how Julia's weakness was a fear of rejection-she assumed that William was going to reject her so she rejected first. We're not sure of this reason-Daddy issues perhaps compounded by maybe her college baby daddy also rejected her-giving her no choice but to have an abortion? It hasn't been explored, but since season 6, she's gotten a lot better in this regard. Perhaps her time in Vienna helped her work through some issues? William's flaw was lack of action romantically. He took Julia for granted in season 3, which Julia interpreted as lack of interest-she was approaching spinsterhood, and if William wasn't going to propose,she needed to find someone who would. Which is how she met and got engaged to Darcy in less than 6 months time. To be fair, William was definitely crushing hard on Sally Pendrick-to the point where her husband and the Inspector commented upon it. I don't know if he realized what he lost until it was gone. But yes, he should have written her, telegrammed her, something, other than wait for her to make a gesture that he should have made himself. He realized his mistakes by the Kissing Bandit, but couldn't act on it because he'd given Darcy his word that they were "dead". As for Sally Pendrick, I'm afraid we're in the minority. I'd like to see her back as well, but... I hope we still do. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 8, 2014 19:11:26 GMT
William is such a sucker for smart blondes, Anna, Julia, Sally and even Ruby to a certain extent. I think they are almost his archilles’ heel so to speak. This raises a question - the stereotypical blond is "dumb" - the stereotypical librarian/scientist woman has brown hair, the stereotypical evil genius woman has black hair (well a seductress might be blond. but she's probably dying her hair). William has consistently chosen blond woman, and we've joked about his appreciation for pretty dresses as well. For such a smart guy, does his taste run a bit superficial? That would indeed be an achilles heel! Really good point about Pendrick's "achilles' heel" being the same. Though it's kind of a cliche to say men's brains stop working when they see a pretty woman, lol.  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 8, 2014 19:19:33 GMT
Julia's weakness was a fear of rejection-she assumed that William was going to reject her so she rejected first. We're not sure of this reason-Daddy issues perhaps compounded by maybe her college baby daddy also rejected her-giving her no choice but to have an abortion? It hasn't been explored, but since season 6, she's gotten a lot better in this regard. Perhaps her time in Vienna helped her work through some issues? William's flaw was lack of action romantically. He took Julia for granted in season 3, which Julia interpreted as lack of interest-she was approaching spinsterhood, and if William wasn't going to propose,she needed to find someone who would. Which is how she met and got engaged to Darcy in less than 6 months time. To be fair, William was definitely crushing hard on Sally Pendrick-to the point where her husband and the Inspector commented upon it. I don't know if he realized what he lost until it was gone. But yes, he should have written her, telegrammed her, something, other than wait for her to make a gesture that he should have made himself. That's a really great summary of our conversations - especially from Julia's point of view! I do hope we get some inkling of her "analysis". I'll just reiterate I think William was waiting for some sort of action/indication from Julia before he went to Buffalo, or even wrote her. But, yes, Julia didn't because she thought she William had moved on. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 8, 2014 19:19:57 GMT
William is such a sucker for smart blondes, Anna, Julia, Sally and even Ruby to a certain extent. I think they are almost his archilles’ heel so to speak. This raises a question - the stereotypical blond is "dumb" - the stereotypical librarian/scientist woman has brown hair, the stereotypical evil genius woman has black hair (well a seductress might be blond. but she's probably dying her hair). William has consistently chosen blond woman, and we've joked about his appreciation for pretty dresses as well. For such a smart guy, does his taste run a bit superficial? That would indeed be an achilles heel! I don't know that I'd call it superficial, at the end of the day he's a man, and most men I know happen to have a type they're attracted to. William is all too human in that regard. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 8, 2014 19:50:01 GMT
This raises a question - the stereotypical blond is "dumb" - the stereotypical librarian/scientist woman has brown hair, the stereotypical evil genius woman has black hair (well a seductress might be blond. but she's probably dying her hair). William has consistently chosen blond woman, and we've joked about his appreciation for pretty dresses as well. For such a smart guy, does his taste run a bit superficial? That would indeed be an achilles heel! I don't know that I'd call it superficial, at the end of the day he's a man, and most men I know happen to have a type they're attracted to. William is all too human in that regard. I guess Dr. Bajjali was an aberration then as she is definitely not blonde but he was certainly attracted to her. Must have been her brain.  |
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Post by snacky on Nov 8, 2014 20:31:13 GMT
I don't know that I'd call it superficial, at the end of the day he's a man, and most men I know happen to have a type they're attracted to. William is all too human in that regard. I guess Dr. Bajjali was an aberration then as she is definitely not blonde but he was certainly attracted to her. Must have been her brain. Ooh good example. Okay I'm less worried about William being a shallow twit now, hahahaha. I almost forgot about Dr. Bajjali. I liked her! She should come back! As a girlfriend for Emily
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Post by snacky on Nov 8, 2014 20:46:06 GMT
I don't know that I'd call it superficial, at the end of the day he's a man, and most men I know happen to have a type they're attracted to. William is all too human in that regard. Isn't the pattern usually set by the man's mother? William's mother is a brunette! So there must have been a lusty blond babysetter early on... |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 8, 2014 22:14:28 GMT
I don't know that I'd call it superficial, at the end of the day he's a man, and most men I know happen to have a type they're attracted to. William is all too human in that regard. Isn't the pattern usually set by the man's mother? William's mother is a brunette! So there must have been a lusty blond babysetter early on... That, or Dr. Bajjali was foreign and exotic and intrigued him. Also, anti-Julia. Also, it makes sense that he likes blondes since he's darker himself. I'm a blonde who always liked them a bit darker. Which is why I married a ginger!  |
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