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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 17:18:02 GMT
I once read somewhere that Reda deliberately tailored Brax' suits to be a bit snug to demonstrate that he was a well-fed middle aged happily married man-or something to that effect-Thomas Craig is not actually that portly. That's why I think the "Tommy Two-Cakes" nickname referred to the fact he ate two cakes at teatime. I wonder if he is now doing something similar for William's suits-to denote that he is now well fed and happy. YB: Aaaaaaaah, I can finally eat all the steak burritos I want! lol - I think Reda may be doing that again. That's one of the things I like about MM - super sneaky little symbolic details like that. It might be in the coloring of William's suits, too. I believe he is wearing a lighter color suit this year? Anyway, is this just my illusion or does William have a slightly different look - like a settled "salary man"? And how are they doing it? Being into the three piece suit look I've always taken notice of William's suits. Up until this season he's been wearing the same suits that he started with plus an odd new one along the way it seems. This season I haven't taken much notice for some reason but there is one suit in particular that I've noticed and it's dark with a pale stripe, he was wearing it in the Giles interview. I particularly like William in the darker suits. Not sure it's new as I think I saw it in a previous season but it's not from the beginning of the show. I have noticed the tailoring of the suits, the pants in particular. They seem to be tailored to show off Yannick's rear end to put it politely. The vests are also particularly well fitting, but not tight like Brackenreid's, and the jackets leave nothing to spare around the bottom, plus they don't have vents which seems to be correct for the type of jacket at the time. I think the different look is more Yannick's portrayal, William's now a confident married man and his stance seems to be showing that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 17:21:35 GMT
I'm still wondering where he's going to find the time for that between his very demanding job and all the sexing. True, I think he didn't account for his entire schedule when he was planning on building this house. On the other hand, perhaps this is why he agreed to the hotel - the conveniences gave him enough extra time to do a little work on the weekends. Picture this: sweaty William hewing wood and hauling logs. Appreciative Julia as a spectator, just waiting for the chance to offer her services during work breaks...
Sweaty house building William was my fantasy too! IMO he has been "wearing the pants" figuratively speaking if not always literally, since they got married. But doing so with great respect for Julia. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 3, 2014 20:57:50 GMT
YB: Aaaaaaaah, I can finally eat all the steak burritos I want! lol - I think Reda may be doing that again. That's one of the things I like about MM - super sneaky little symbolic details like that. It might be in the coloring of William's suits, too. I believe he is wearing a lighter color suit this year? Anyway, is this just my illusion or does William have a slightly different look - like a settled "salary man"? And how are they doing it? Being into the three piece suit look I've always taken notice of William's suits. Up until this season he's been wearing the same suits that he started with plus an odd new one along the way it seems. This season I haven't taken much notice for some reason but there is one suit in particular that I've noticed and it's dark with a pale stripe, he was wearing it in the Giles interview. I particularly like William in the darker suits. Not sure it's new as I think I saw it in a previous season but it's not from the beginning of the show. I have noticed the tailoring of the suits, the pants in particular. They seem to be tailored to show off Yannick's rear end to put it politely. The vests are also particularly well fitting, but not tight like Brackenreid's, and the jackets leave nothing to spare around the bottom, plus they don't have vents which seems to be correct for the type of jacket at the time. I think the different look is more Yannick's portrayal, William's now a confident married man and his stance seems to be showing that. I don't know what you mean...  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 22:17:03 GMT
Being into the three piece suit look I've always taken notice of William's suits. Up until this season he's been wearing the same suits that he started with plus an odd new one along the way it seems. This season I haven't taken much notice for some reason but there is one suit in particular that I've noticed and it's dark with a pale stripe, he was wearing it in the Giles interview. I particularly like William in the darker suits. Not sure it's new as I think I saw it in a previous season but it's not from the beginning of the show. I have noticed the tailoring of the suits, the pants in particular. They seem to be tailored to show off Yannick's rear end to put it politely. The vests are also particularly well fitting, but not tight like Brackenreid's, and the jackets leave nothing to spare around the bottom, plus they don't have vents which seems to be correct for the type of jacket at the time. I think the different look is more Yannick's portrayal, William's now a confident married man and his stance seems to be showing that. I don't know what you mean...   |
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Post by snacky on Dec 3, 2014 22:24:56 GMT
Lol - I always noticed William had a very particular stance, and the short jacket accentuated it. I wasn't sure whether this was an acting choice or YB's orthopedic issues. Never once did it occur to me that Reda and MM were trying to exploit YB's "assets"!
But I suppose, in retrospect, it makes sense.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 3, 2014 23:45:02 GMT
Lol - I always noticed William had a very particular stance, and the short jacket accentuated it. I wasn't sure whether this was an acting choice or YB's orthopedic issues. Never once did it occur to me that Reda and MM were trying to exploit YB's "assets"! But I suppose, in retrospect, it makes sense. I've always noted that both William and Thomas stand the same way, belly and butt sticking out. I don't think Thomas C does normally, I don't recall him standing like that at the MME, I can't remember how Yannick was standing at the open house. |
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Post by carco on Dec 4, 2014 1:10:05 GMT
LOL - William is high on love? My Greek Tragedy theory is really getting a workout these days. But I think that's because it's fundamentally true. If William is floating around on Cloud 9 for too long, something has got to happen to knock him off. Just realized we haven't seen George on a mule yet (the mining episode?). Wow, they were really far along in filming when that pic came out...  I don't know that it's going to be a Greek tragedy-that denotes something fairly epic. I don't know that he thinks he's "Teflon Man" either. He's worked hard over the years and deserves to look back at his accomplishments with pride at a job well done, and think that his "reputation stands for something." If TPTB fire him for his wife's exploits, then they're flaming idiots. But, will there be a fly in the ointment? Probably.  I don't think he IS a Teflon Man but I think he feels that way. He's feeling protected by reputation because everyone tells him how wonderful he is and he has come to believe it. I didn't totally buy snacky's earlier predictions on this point at first, but I'm very much seeing how confident Murdoch is feeling and now I'm leaning in that directions as well. Julia's decision has avoided a test of the theory for now. The mayor's offhand comment to the Inspector in referring to Murdoch as "the Catholic" (despite all Murdoch did for him last year) proves that William's religion is still a thorn in the sides to the establishment in protestant, British based TO. But William remains confident that his reputation is strong and it will be his buffer if once again, he were to be given a warning. But remember, Brackenreid never did tell him why he didn't get the promotion years ago. He convinced Wm. that he had time to withdraw his application because he wouldn't like the supervision aspect of the job and with Thomas hurt at the time, they needed Wm at the Station House. He also believes Brackenreid will support him as always and no matter what. But how many times can Thomas do that and not risk his own job and his ability to support a family? If push comes to shove Thomas has to protect his own job and needs Wm. to start taking full responsibility for his own actions and (now) that of his wife. That's what he's trying to get through to William I think but instead he's blustered on about Julia and William has his back up. but I think it's conceivable to believe that if Julia hadn't made the choice to withdraw from running, Wm's job could very well have been in serious jeopardy and no one would be more shocked than William.  And yes, anyone who couldn't see the value of Murdoch as separate from the actions of his wife would be flaming idiots but most of the men running things in those days WERE flaming idiots so they'd simply be following the predicted course.  And that was the attitude that feminists were trying to smash. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 4, 2014 1:19:40 GMT
Lol - I always noticed William had a very particular stance, and the short jacket accentuated it. I wasn't sure whether this was an acting choice or YB's orthopedic issues. Never once did it occur to me that Reda and MM were trying to exploit YB's "assets"! But I suppose, in retrospect, it makes sense. I've always noted that both William and Thomas stand the same way, belly and butt sticking out. I don't think Thomas C does normally, I don't recall him standing like that at the MME, I can't remember how Yannick was standing at the open house. At first I thought it was an orthopedic issue, but it's really not apparent in any of his other roles. Then I thought it was something intended to make them look more Victorian somehow. The Victorian era was not my era of history (the mustaches and sideburns were a real turn off for me), and I didn't even watch enough TV in that time zone for me to grok the mannerisms, so I just assumed it could be a thing, and I didn't know about that thing. If Brackenreid was doing it, too, it was less recognizable because of the padding and the cut of his suit. William had no padding and the short jacket, so it was almost like Madonna doing a vogue pose with him. I came to take it as a signature of the character. It is a real hoot to think that it could have been about showing off YB's derriere all along. Not that I don't appreciate finely crafted male bodies, but I totally did not notice! (If YB is reading this, hope he feels less like a piece of meat now, lol). |
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Post by snacky on Dec 4, 2014 1:21:03 GMT
I don't know what you mean... Who are the pervs now?  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 4, 2014 1:29:10 GMT
I don't think he IS a Teflon Man but I think he feels that way. He's feeling protected by reputation because everyone tells him how wonderful he is and he has come to believe it. But William remains confident that his reputation is strong and it will be his buffer if once again, he were to be given a warning. But how many times can Thomas do that and not risk his own job and his ability to support a family? If push comes to shove Thomas has to protect his own job and needs Wm. to start taking full responsibility for his own actions and (now) that of his wife. That's what he's trying to get through to William I think but instead he's blustered on about Julia and William has his back up. but I think it's conceivable to believe that if Julia hadn't made the choice to withdraw from running, Wm's job could very well have been in serious jeopardy and no one would be more shocked than William. While I do think William gets a little puffed up by his success, his expression seemed to show he wasn't so sure his reputation would protect him. In the back of his mind he thinks being a Catholic will get him shafted. But I also agree he will still be shocked when he actually does get shafted. Poor guy. I agree with your assessment of Brackenreid: he is, in a very ham-handed way, trying to let William know that a lot of other people are involved in these decisions. The higher up you go, the more "politics" you have to negotiate, and the more people's fates are at stake. In a way this also goes back to the Murdoch in Wonderland situation. This is reminding me: we didn't see any suffering over Hodge this episode!!! WTH - that's just wrong.  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 4, 2014 1:42:20 GMT
If Brackenreid was doing it, too, it was less recognizable because of the padding and the cut of his suit. William had no padding and the short jacket, so it was almost like Madonna doing a vogue pose with him. I came to take it as a signature of the character. It is a real hoot to think that it could have been about showing off YB's derriere all along. Not that I don't appreciate finely crafted male bodies, but I totally did not notice! (If YB is reading this, hope he feels less like a piece of meat now, lol). What padding? I don't think there's any padding, it's all in the cut of the clothes and the way he stands. Not sure if it's deliberately to show off YB's derriere but it sure does, too much! I have to say I do like the cut of the pants though, very stylish with the snug, high waist and v-notch for the suspenders. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 4, 2014 2:01:19 GMT
If Brackenreid was doing it, too, it was less recognizable because of the padding and the cut of his suit. William had no padding and the short jacket, so it was almost like Madonna doing a vogue pose with him. I came to take it as a signature of the character. It is a real hoot to think that it could have been about showing off YB's derriere all along. Not that I don't appreciate finely crafted male bodies, but I totally did not notice! (If YB is reading this, hope he feels less like a piece of meat now, lol). What padding? I don't think there's any padding, it's all in the cut of the clothes and the way he stands. Not sure if it's deliberately to show off YB's derriere but it sure does, too much! I have to say I do like the cut of the pants though, very stylish with the snug, high waist and v-notch for the suspenders. Reda said he used padding on Brackenreid to make him look more portly and "middle class married" - according to FallenBelle. We also know for sure he gave Julia "more bum" to fill out her wedding gown. |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 4, 2014 3:03:37 GMT
What padding? I don't think there's any padding, it's all in the cut of the clothes and the way he stands. Not sure if it's deliberately to show off YB's derriere but it sure does, too much! I have to say I do like the cut of the pants though, very stylish with the snug, high waist and v-notch for the suspenders. Reda said he used padding on Brackenreid to make him look more portly and "middle class married" - according to FallenBelle. We also know for sure he gave Julia "more bum" to fill out her wedding gown. I've never seen anything where he said he used padding on Brackenreid however he did say his waistcoats are a little tight and some are double breasted to 'accentuate his chest'. Helene Joy had padding for her butt in the wedding dress. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 4, 2014 3:17:38 GMT
Reda said he used padding on Brackenreid to make him look more portly and "middle class married" - according to FallenBelle. We also know for sure he gave Julia "more bum" to fill out her wedding gown. I've never seen anything where he said he used padding on Brackenreid however he did say his waistcoats are a little tight and some are double breasted to 'accentuate his chest'. Helene Joy had padding for her butt in the wedding dress. FallenBelle saw it somewhere. I'm under the impression I saw it, too, but it may be a false memory implanted from discussing it with FallenBelle. It is believable, given Reda's general approach. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 4, 2014 4:01:22 GMT
I've never seen anything where he said he used padding on Brackenreid however he did say his waistcoats are a little tight and some are double breasted to 'accentuate his chest'. Helene Joy had padding for her butt in the wedding dress. FallenBelle saw it somewhere. I'm under the impression I saw it, too, but it may be a false memory implanted from discussing it with FallenBelle. It is believable, given Reda's general approach. I've never seen anything about padding-just tailoring. I know Helene had padding for her wedding dress, but I don't know if they do that for other costumes or not. life.nationalpost.com/2013/01/06/forensics-furbelows-the-costumes-of-murdoch-mysteries/ |
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And that was the attitude that feminists were trying to smash. 
