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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 13:57:37 GMT
Not sure if it's a Victorian stance but it's not his usual. He stands very much like Thomas Craig's Brackenreid. Not a fan but I do understand. However I watched an episode of Napkinman yesterday and he does have a rather well developed posterior. Unfortunately I don't have any good full length photos from the open house. Perhaps he's done more cycling since starting MM. I remember he created quite a sensation over some bank commercial he did, so I don't think this is a very a new "asset" for comment. I still think he's standing in a particular way that looks kind of mannered and, for me, "toy-like". I don't see this in his other shows, and it does add to the look-and-feel of Murdoch Mysteries. Not sure if the other actors do the same. Helene Joy does seem to try to put on a completely different person, though: even that high-strung voice is not even close to her normal one. I remember those ads, didn't know who he was then though. Don't remember ass. Julia's voice has changed over the seasons, it's now much lighter and slightly higher. I liked the old Julia to be honest, she was more down to earth and matter of fact. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 5, 2014 15:15:42 GMT
I remember he created quite a sensation over some bank commercial he did, so I don't think this is a very a new "asset" for comment. I still think he's standing in a particular way that looks kind of mannered and, for me, "toy-like". I don't see this in his other shows, and it does add to the look-and-feel of Murdoch Mysteries. Not sure if the other actors do the same. Helene Joy does seem to try to put on a completely different person, though: even that high-strung voice is not even close to her normal one. I remember those ads, didn't know who he was then though. Don't remember ass. Julia's voice has changed over the seasons, it's now much lighter and slightly higher. I liked the old Julia to be honest, she was more down to earth and matter of fact. I only remember them making fun of his being in the ad in air farce...not the actual ad itself. Yes, I don't think we'll ever figure out where that odd voice decision came from. Even her talking in her natural accent would have made more sense to me.  |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 16:01:39 GMT
I remember those ads, didn't know who he was then though. Don't remember ass. Julia's voice has changed over the seasons, it's now much lighter and slightly higher. I liked the old Julia to be honest, she was more down to earth and matter of fact. I only remember them making fun of his being in the ad in air farce...not the actual ad itself. Yes, I don't think we'll ever figure out where that odd voice decision came from. Even her talking in her natural accent would have made more sense to me. It seemed in the earlier seasons that she used her 'normal Canadianized voice' however now she seems to be softening it as well. It really doesn't go with the character. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 5, 2014 16:21:13 GMT
I only remember them making fun of his being in the ad in air farce...not the actual ad itself. Yes, I don't think we'll ever figure out where that odd voice decision came from. Even her talking in her natural accent would have made more sense to me. It seemed in the earlier seasons that she used her 'normal Canadianized voice' however now she seems to be softening it as well. It really doesn't go with the character. I thought her Canadianized voice was in The Murdoch Effect? In the show she almost sounds British for some reason even though no one else in her family does. |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 17:50:52 GMT
It seemed in the earlier seasons that she used her 'normal Canadianized voice' however now she seems to be softening it as well. It really doesn't go with the character. I thought her Canadianized voice was in The Murdoch Effect? In the show she almost sounds British for some reason even though no one else in her family does. She may sound British to you but to me she sounds more mid Atlantic, slightly more towards Canada, bypassing the colony of Newfoundland of course! The Murdoch Effect sounded like a modern Canadian accent. All this is from a foreigner of course!  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 5, 2014 17:56:10 GMT
I remember he created quite a sensation over some bank commercial he did, so I don't think this is a very a new "asset" for comment. I still think he's standing in a particular way that looks kind of mannered and, for me, "toy-like". I don't see this in his other shows, and it does add to the look-and-feel of Murdoch Mysteries. Not sure if the other actors do the same. Helene Joy does seem to try to put on a completely different person, though: even that high-strung voice is not even close to her normal one. I remember those ads, didn't know who he was then though. Don't remember ass. Julia's voice has changed over the seasons, it's now much lighter and slightly higher. I liked the old Julia to be honest, she was more down to earth and matter of fact. I liked the matter of fact, too. I have a feeling that when she was used as a sounding board for William, sometimes the argument wasn't written well, so she came off as just catty or pointlessly oppositional. Viewers complained, so Julia was softened up in the name of being "in love" with William. I don't want Julia to have pointless or mean arguments with William, but it would be nice if she were re-grounded in the world of facts, and occasionally those facts altered from what William knows. (Soup doesn't count - that just makes her seem like a toff!) |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 17:59:57 GMT
I remember those ads, didn't know who he was then though. Don't remember ass. Julia's voice has changed over the seasons, it's now much lighter and slightly higher. I liked the old Julia to be honest, she was more down to earth and matter of fact. I liked the matter of fact, too. I have a feeling that when she was used as a sounding board for William, sometimes the argument wasn't written well, so she came off as just catty or pointlessly oppositional. Viewers complained, so Julia was softened up in the name of being "in love" with William. I don't want Julia to have pointless or mean arguments with William, but it would be nice if she were re-grounded in the world of facts, and occasionally those facts altered from what William knows. (Soup doesn't count - that just makes her seem like a toff!) I suspect you're right, North Americans don't like it when you call a spade a spade and take offence even over the truth. Julia told it like it is or was.... But she is a toff even if she doesn't care or lord it over people. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 5, 2014 18:00:41 GMT
I only remember them making fun of his being in the ad in air farce...not the actual ad itself. Yes, I don't think we'll ever figure out where that odd voice decision came from. Even her talking in her natural accent would have made more sense to me. It seemed in the earlier seasons that she used her 'normal Canadianized voice' however now she seems to be softening it as well. It really doesn't go with the character. In earlier seasons her voice was different, too - higher and very affected. I was thinking now it's closer to her real voice. But maybe that's because as an American, the lower voice register sounds more "real" to me...? |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 18:06:57 GMT
It seemed in the earlier seasons that she used her 'normal Canadianized voice' however now she seems to be softening it as well. It really doesn't go with the character. In earlier seasons her voice was different, too - higher and very affected. I was thinking now it's closer to her real voice. But maybe that's because as an American, the lower voice register sounds more "real" to me...? Her earlier voice sounded more professional. Perhaps that was so she would be taken seriously. Her voice had changed by S5 can't pinpoint exactly which season it changed. I'm digitizing my collection and will have to wait until the DVD player is free to watch the earlier seasons. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 5, 2014 18:27:01 GMT
I thought her Canadianized voice was in The Murdoch Effect? In the show she almost sounds British for some reason even though no one else in her family does. She may sound British to you but to me she sounds more mid Atlantic, slightly more towards Canada, bypassing the colony of Newfoundland of course! The Murdoch Effect sounded like a modern Canadian accent. All this is from a foreigner of course! Never having been to Canada, I'm making the probably unfounded assumption that all Canadians sound like the villains on the X-Files - just like Americans but with slightly higher voices. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 5, 2014 18:36:58 GMT
She may sound British to you but to me she sounds more mid Atlantic, slightly more towards Canada, bypassing the colony of Newfoundland of course! The Murdoch Effect sounded like a modern Canadian accent. All this is from a foreigner of course! Never having been to Canada, I'm making the probably unfounded assumption that all Canadians sound like the villains on the X-Files - just like Americans but with slightly higher voices. Well with the exception of Alberta and NL, I think we do sound more or less the same. I'm always puzzled as to why so many Americans think we sound so different. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 5, 2014 18:39:20 GMT
I liked the matter of fact, too. I have a feeling that when she was used as a sounding board for William, sometimes the argument wasn't written well, so she came off as just catty or pointlessly oppositional. Viewers complained, so Julia was softened up in the name of being "in love" with William. I don't want Julia to have pointless or mean arguments with William, but it would be nice if she were re-grounded in the world of facts, and occasionally those facts altered from what William knows. (Soup doesn't count - that just makes her seem like a toff!) I suspect you're right, North Americans don't like it when you call a spade a spade and take offence even over the truth. Julia told it like it is or was.... But she is a toff even if she doesn't care or lord it over people. William is probably curious about the soups of the upper class as long as she doesn't begin to make an issue of his manhood over his need for an education in the area. After all he has been pulling himself up by his bootstraps all his life. This is just up further. btw Americans might even take issue with the "spade" saying - I won't get into the reasons why, just agreeing that we have kind of fraught politics around what we say...even more so than what we do (which largely tends to be nothing!). But a schmoopy Julia is a boring Julia. I have to say I really disliked her smile at William saving the President in Murdoch Takes Manhattan. It kind of changed her from a Woman of Action to a Fangirl of William. I'm trying to chalk it up to the fact that she mainly sees thinky William and not a lot of William tackling bad guys, so perhaps that was a bit thrilling. But it is worrying to see her reduced to a Very Pleased Spectator. I'm waiting to see what the latter half of the season holds, though. We were promised 10% darker, and I do not believe that means 10% of the episodes! |
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Post by snacky on Dec 5, 2014 20:08:27 GMT
Never having been to Canada, I'm making the probably unfounded assumption that all Canadians sound like the villains on the X-Files - just like Americans but with slightly higher voices. Well with the exception of Alberta and NL, I think we do sound more or less the same. I'm always puzzled as to why so many Americans think we sound so different. There's a certain flavor of male voices that are a little higher, and come off sounding less mature and even a bit whiny to American ears - that's why it's a joke about being the villains on the X-Files. If they were on Team Heroes, they would pitch their voices lower and try to sound like Superman, lol. In other news, I just saw David Hewlett is in Toronto. How has he not guest starred on MM? Hasn't every actor in Toronto guest starred on everything three times over? |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 5, 2014 20:57:01 GMT
Well with the exception of Alberta and NL, I think we do sound more or less the same. I'm always puzzled as to why so many Americans think we sound so different. There's a certain flavor of male voices that are a little higher, and come off sounding less mature and even a bit whiny to American ears - that's why it's a joke about being the villains on the X-Files. If they were on Team Heroes, they would pitch their voices lower and try to sound like Superman, lol. In other news, I just saw David Hewlett is in Toronto. How has he not guest starred on MM? Hasn't every actor in Toronto guest starred on everything three times over? Ok, ignorant me, who's David Hewlett? If he isn't one of the 20 Canadian actors I haven't heard of him. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 6, 2014 1:52:25 GMT
There's a certain flavor of male voices that are a little higher, and come off sounding less mature and even a bit whiny to American ears - that's why it's a joke about being the villains on the X-Files. If they were on Team Heroes, they would pitch their voices lower and try to sound like Superman, lol. In other news, I just saw David Hewlett is in Toronto. How has he not guest starred on MM? Hasn't every actor in Toronto guest starred on everything three times over? Ok, ignorant me, who's David Hewlett? If he isn't one of the 20 Canadian actors I haven't heard of him. I casually name-dropped him because he was on Stargate and Stargate Atlantis - so FallenBelle would be familiar with him. He's also a regular in films on the SyFy channel. Because of his Stargate associations, I just assumed he was in Vancouver - surprised to find out he was in Toronto. |
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