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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 2:59:30 GMT
Did you also predict it would be Brax to ask her to desist? If so, here's a virtual dollar towards your fancy telephone box. Nope, but I did predict Julia would do it without William asking - close enough? btw, has the outrage over sapphism in the Gemily Purist corners started yet? If there's going to be a hurlyburly, I want to pick up popcorn on the way home!  No dollar for you.
I only really know of the one girl who was annoying about it on tumblr and I blocked her so even if she was ranting I would never see. And it's hardly a sure thing they are going down that road. Maybe Lillian is just really friendly stopping by the morgue the same day she met Emily to ask her out to tea? And then stopping by again the next day to discuss female warriors princesses. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 3:14:46 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers.
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 3:45:14 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers. I think it was mostly implied, but I didn't watch the show. Another possible motive is simply to see if that relationship will expand their audience (as well as the fun of being edgy #crumpetgate). I think part of Downton Abbey's rise in the US related to its expansion of partner possibilities. That was a male pairing, though. Sapphism would be an interesting test. Was Xena's audience base on that relationship? hmmm. I watched just because Xena kicked ass - Gabriel was kind if annoying.  |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 3:49:17 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers. I think it was mostly implied, but I didn't watch the show. Another possible motive is simply to see if that relationship will expand their audience (as well as the fun of being edgy #crumpetgate). I think part of Downton Abbey's rise in the US related to its expansion of partner possibilities. That was a male pairing, though. Sapphism would be an interesting test. Was Xena's audience base on that relationship? hmmm. I watched just because Xena kicked ass - Gabriel was kind if annoying. Based on the gifs I think it was a bit more than implied... I have no idea since I've never really watched the show but the tumblr fanbase is certainly based on that relationship. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 3:54:18 GMT
The study of matriarchies and female warriors (before they were cheated out of their Darwinian evolution by marital servitude) was a thing at the time! I'm reading Gilman's Herland right now! Also women getting strong through physical culture (calisthenics, etc) was controversial because strong women were considered unattractive and it put a dent in their marriage chances!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 3:56:59 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers. My daughter was a big fan of Xena, when she was about 6 years old! I used to watch it with her, and found that the relationship between Xena and Gabriel was warm and loving, but not overtly physical. I can see how many would construe it as lesbian, however, but we, in our innocence, did not catch it. It was a fun show. The kid used to like jumping off the couch and yelling like Xena. Girl power!! |
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Post by snacky on Dec 2, 2014 4:00:11 GMT
Re: Xena - I think it might have been expressed on the show but not depicted in an explicit way. It aired early in the evening. Same "viewing constraints" as MM.
If there is a built-in audience waiting for the next lesbian couple, MM might be fishing for it. How do such things get around?
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 4:00:35 GMT
I'm wondering if the writers idea to potentially put lillian and emily together was spawned out of the whole warrior princess idea for the campaign poster...haven't really seen the xena show but I think the two main females in that were lovers. My daughter was a big fan of Xena, when she was about 6 years old! I used to watch it with her, and found that the relationship between Xena and Gabriel was warm and loving, but not overtly physical. I can see how many would construe it as lesbian, however, but we, in our innocence, did not catch it. It was a fun show. The kid used to like jumping off the couch and yelling like Xena. Girl power!! I still like doing that.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 4:11:02 GMT
Re: Xena - I think it might have been expressed on the show but not depicted in an explicit way. It aired early in the evening. Same "viewing constraints" as MM. If there is a built-in audience waiting for the next lesbian couple, MM might be fishing for it. How do such things get around? Yeah some of those gifs made me look twice...  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 4:12:33 GMT
Random collections of my thoughts: Wow...room 206! Wasn't that W/J's room on their wedding night? That room's seen plenty of action-in more ways than one!  Awww, at them having breakfast-so cute! Then George just nonchalantly walking in and looking around like he was just hanging out-heee! And the wedding photo. Awww! Seriously, Mr. Mayor-he's saved your butt more than once and he's still just "that Catholic"? Methinks William should just stop accepting your calls now, and you can solve your own problems. That's a politician for you.  Edna still hasn't told the boy? Oh, my... Ouch, so Brax views Julia as William's property now? And he has less than favorable views on women's rights? And this is the man married to Margaret? Such delicious contradictions! Why didn't William kick Edison senior out of the interview? Come on, William-go alpha! Tell him he's obstructing an investigation and then kick the chair out from under him.Okay, so you arrested the son. Love William's speech about their modern marriage, "Let's not let society constrain us, Julia. We're a modern couple, living in a modern world." It almost makes up for the marginalization of her character. Love how William almost exactly parrots back very similar words as the Inspector, but with a different sentiment. "We're husband and wife. We stand together no matter what comes our way" but with a positive sentiment. Nice work, MM writers. William seems to have already considered the consequences of her run and is okay with it. He knows who he married! However much it sucks that this became the reason for Julia dropping out, I like this detail-it's a very accurate sentiment for the period. As much as Brax was being a jerk, he was still acting out of a place of concern for William. Still, Brax-insulting his manhood? "You're the husband-what you say goes. Wear the trousers for once, man." That's rich considering how your wife owns you! Can we see Mrs. B become a suffragette now, please?OMG! Warrior Princess conversations between Lillian and Emily. Hah! It's official-Julia's withdrawing. That sucks it's because it's over William, but again, an all too accurate detail. Not only is it representative of the period, it shows character growth for Julia. She's not giving up her candidacy because she's being forced to by her husband, she's doing it for him (even though he's not asking it of her). Indeed, I'm most intrigued to see what the repercussions are for this decision. Loved the Gedna ending. I wasn't sure how they were going to play Edna not having told the boy yet, but I kinda suspected that he already knew. I like how that was handled. Overall, a good episode. Not the punch to the gut that last week's was, but a solid episode.  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 4:16:51 GMT
Re: Xena - I think it might have been expressed on the show but not depicted in an explicit way. It aired early in the evening. Same "viewing constraints" as MM. If there is a built-in audience waiting for the next lesbian couple, MM might be fishing for it. How do such things get around? Yeah some of those gifs made me look twice... They were certainly implying it, weren't they? No wonder so many guys I knew liked that show. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 4:36:30 GMT
So because Longfellow was so cheap, he was sharing a room with Edison? Is that why he had a key? And his name wasn't in the register?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 2, 2014 4:39:10 GMT
So because Longfellow was so cheap, he was sharing a room with Edison? Is that why he had a key? And his name wasn't in the register? Longfellow had a key for 209 in his pocket-I'm assuming that was his room? But kinda freaky that he was gonna get it on in another man's hotel room... He also tipped the clerk to look the other way, so he couldn't have been that cheap...maybe he didn't like prostitutes, or liked the challenge of getting it for free! But did he get Edison drunk and lift the key? |
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Post by barbarama on Dec 2, 2014 4:43:04 GMT
So far I'm not so late reading your comments that I have 12 pages to catch up on  I really liked this episode, a necessary tension's reliever after what we saw last week (and just for the fact that Julia is back with a lot of interesting and conflicted scenes I give it 2 thumbs up). The case was very solid indeed because I couldn't figure out who did it until the 37min or so when they talked about the suicide of Gorgio and I screamed "It's the father!!!". What is it with the show lately finding murderers in loving and interesting characters (first Hodge last week and this episode Dr. Rico who was part of the terrific episode "Murdoch au Naturel"). The invention itself was titillating for sure but what got me to laugh away was George's idea of "Electric Hair", this one is a keeper for sure!!! Now regarding Brackenreid, I'm sure he meant well in his "advices" to William & Julia however he went too far imo. First it is not of his business what's going on with their marriage unless (and even then) if it interferes directly with Station 4 (which is not the case as it would concern primarily William) and second he was really insulting, his stubbornness to want to keep things the way they used to be is a stark contrast to William & Julia's progressiveness (I actually wonder what William will think about Julia dropping out her candidacy, I hope it will be at least mentioned and hopefully dealt with in next week's episode). And as Fallenbelle mentioned it is rich for Brackenreid to advise William on "wearing the pants" when we all know who does that in his marriage Overall good episode I very much enjoyed it!!! |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Dec 2, 2014 4:50:11 GMT
So because Longfellow was so cheap, he was sharing a room with Edison? Is that why he had a key? And his name wasn't in the register? Longfellow had a key for 209 in his pocket-I'm assuming that was his room? But kinda freaky that he was gonna get it on in another man's hotel room... He also tipped the clerk to look the other way, so he couldn't have been that cheap...maybe he didn't like prostitutes, or liked the challenge of getting it for free! But did he get Edison drunk and lift the key? Maybe the girl gave him the money to tip the clerk? She did after all want to make sure her family could frame Edison. Well, the other inventor guy said he took him out to drink...but I suppose Longfellow could have taken it then...or the girl did. Why was the machine in Edison's room again? |
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