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Post by fan2tvshows on Sept 6, 2014 20:29:32 GMT
MM recycles a lot of actors. I rewatched Big Murder on Campus, and I think that was Chief Inspector Stockton playing the bit part of the wagon driver....(?) The guy that played the wagon driver wasn't the same as CI Stockton. Can't remember the actors name right now but I believe he just died, I think I saw something to that effect somewhere. Patrick GARROW was Allen FAWKES who made a demonstration of the dangers of alternative current in the very first episode of MURDOCH MYSTERIES and we can see his bottom -so it was hard to recognize him  - in MURDOCH AU NATUREL, in the fifth of the sixth season; he was Helmut LINDEMANN. |
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Post by fan2tvshows on Sept 6, 2014 22:07:24 GMT
Two words: Terrence MEYERS. One word: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  Regarding Terence Meyers: you don't like him? He's my fave recurring character!!! What don't you like about him?
Terrence MEYERS means another boring episode.
What do you like about Terrence MEYERS?
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Post by snacky on Sept 7, 2014 2:29:50 GMT
Regarding Terence Meyers: you don't like him? He's my fave recurring character!!! What don't you like about him?
Terrence MEYERS means another boring episode.
What do you like about Terrence MEYERS?
I think the episodes he is in are interesting, I like the actor, and the episodes always provide some outside (critical) perspective on the U.S.  |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 7, 2014 19:30:42 GMT
It's Jo Joyner. Maybe her husband was killed by the dockers who attacked Brackenreid. It’s a relief to know she’s not Mrs. B. Perhaps she is family. They did say they will be doing something about William’s early years and who helped to raise him. If his aunt took him in, perhaps this woman is his aunt’s daughter or son’s wife. We'll find out soon enough I suppose. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 7, 2014 20:00:51 GMT
It's Jo Joyner. Maybe her husband was killed by the dockers who attacked Brackenreid. It’s a relief to know she’s not Mrs. B. Perhaps she is family. They did say they will be doing something about William’s early years and who helped to raise him. If his aunt took him in, perhaps this woman is his aunt’s daughter or son’s wife. We'll find out soon enough I suppose. In the books he was raised by his aunt, I believe, until he went to the Jesuit school. I think his aunt was a school teacher and therefore wouldn't be married so couldn't shouldn't have had children of her own. Of course in TV Murdoch history things could be different. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 7, 2014 20:56:59 GMT
It's Jo Joyner. Maybe her husband was killed by the dockers who attacked Brackenreid. It’s a relief to know she’s not Mrs. B. Perhaps she is family. They did say they will be doing something about William’s early years and who helped to raise him. If his aunt took him in, perhaps this woman is his aunt’s daughter or son’s wife. We'll find out soon enough I suppose. The "early years" episode is Glory Days, and it looks like The Woman in Black is looking over the Dock fight. I think she's involved with the Irish/gangs issue somehow. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 7, 2014 21:09:20 GMT
In the books he was raised by his aunt, I believe, until he went to the Jesuit school. I think his aunt was a school teacher and therefore wouldn't be married so couldn't shouldn't have had children of her own. Of course in TV Murdoch history things could be different. Oooh, I remember that. William should have an aunt, but I don't remember him liking her or getting along with her well. This woman doesn't look old enough to be the aunt, though. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 7, 2014 23:03:42 GMT
In the books he was raised by his aunt, I believe, until he went to the Jesuit school. I think his aunt was a school teacher and therefore wouldn't be married so couldn't shouldn't have had children of her own. Of course in TV Murdoch history things could be different. Oooh, I remember that. William should have an aunt, but I don't remember him liking her or getting along with her well. This woman doesn't look old enough to be the aunt, though. That's right, the aunt wasn't particularly fond of having a couple of kids hoisted on her if I remember rightly. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 7, 2014 23:53:20 GMT
The "early years" episode is Glory Days Talking about early years/Glory Days, I still believe that William got a significant bit of his looks and skills from his maternal side of the family. I have secretly wished that they would show a maternal grandfather (probably in the army) or some family from his mother’s line. Don’t know where they got the kid but the 8 year old that found his mother’s body looked like a “little William” to me, even the quirky way he ran and he did look more like his mother than his father. The 8 year old in the Time Machine episode looked like little William of today, all smart and crisp, lol. The kid in DF didn’t look anything like him (sorry, couldn't spell the D word so put DF - go figure  ). |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 0:54:27 GMT
I've been arguing myself that the end of the "unresolved sexual tension" between Willia and Julia is going to be a problem for the show. Helene tried to deny it on the panel. (She feels audiences have "matured" and can accept "mature relationships"). Perhaps William and Julia finally review their relationship and address their differences. It was an awkward moment between Jonny and Helene when the issue came up. It was like….. “Julia will get married, but ….?” …. Err??? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 8, 2014 1:10:45 GMT
Perhaps William and Julia finally review their relationship and address their differences. It was an awkward moment between Jonny and Helene when the issue came up. It was like….. “Julia will get married, but ….?” …. Err??? I think the awkwardness had to do with how much they were going to reveal. Helene was just rolling her eyes about it: obviously William and Julia are going to get married - she indirectly confirmed it a couple of times. Meanwhile, Jonny was trying to keep up he pretense of mystery and stirring the pot over the Catholic conflict. I'm VERY curious about that Catholic conflict, though. Was there a Catholic argument against Women's suffrage? If so, I doubt William would have been making a stand on it. They obviously don't have to have any conversations about contraception or abortion at the minute. Unless Julia is going to advocate for women joining the priesthood, I don't where they are going to lock horns... Unless it's a religion vs science issue...? *goes to review major religion/science conflicts in the early 20th century* Or perhaps Julia is *providing* abortions? |
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Post by snacky on Sept 8, 2014 1:17:16 GMT
Talking about early years/Glory Days, I still believe that William got a significant bit of his looks and skills from his maternal side of the family. Yeah, now that mention it, I believe an uncle is involved. I am confused. William's bildungsroman involves: 1) schoolmarm aunt after mom's death 2) scientific uncle 3) jesuit school 4) a shipwreck(?) -- also his father seems to have been a sailor 5) a summer as a ranch hand in which he learned to lasso horses/cattle 6) a logging camp That kind of packs a lot into William's teenage years. Then he has time to rise through the ranks as a constable "the old fashioned way" since he doesn't have a college degree. |
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Post by Hodge on Sept 8, 2014 3:19:42 GMT
The "early years" episode is Glory Days Talking about early years/Glory Days, I still believe that William got a significant bit of his looks and skills from his maternal side of the family. I have secretly wished that they would show a maternal grandfather (probably in the army) or some family from his mother’s line. Don’t know where they got the kid but the 8 year old that found his mother’s body looked like a “little William” to me, even the quirky way he ran and he did look more like his mother than his father. The 8 year old in the Time Machine episode looked like little William of today, all smart and crisp, lol. The kid in DF didn’t look anything like him (sorry, couldn't spell the D word so put DF - go figure ). Are you sure Glory Days is the early years episode or are you just guessing? Checked this out, Glory Days is ep 803, 803 is directed by Yannick, Yannick directed the Bat Masterson ep. If this has anything about William's past it must be in flashbacks, I don't see any other way to do it but I'll not rule it out. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 3:40:36 GMT
I think the awkwardness had to do with how much they were going to reveal. I'm VERY curious about that Catholic conflict, though. Religion might come into it but may not be all of it. From the preview, William is already trying to tell Julia to tone things down a bit. Julia seems to be in the thick of things this season and if she continues to be herself, she will be lighting up a few fires. We’ve already seen a clip of her in a skirt hiked up to her waist in an upcoming episode. Though William has shown he's got some pop, I am not entirely sure how much leg he can take at this point in time  . Whatever the case, I see things getting a little sticky between them yet again. Whether before or after the wedding is yet to be seen. |
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Post by ziggy on Sept 8, 2014 3:55:47 GMT
Are you sure Glory Days is the early years episode or are you just guessing? Checked this out, Glory Days is ep 803, 803 is directed by Yannick, Yannick directed the Bat Masterson ep. If this has anything about William's past it must be in flashbacks, I don't see any other way to do it but I'll not rule it out. I don't know what Glory Days is about exactly (that's snacky assuming) but I agree with the flashback type of presentation. It won’t cover everything in 803 but could make a good lead up to 804 which will be the 100th episode and a very special one for them – milestone, without making it a 2 parter. It’s 804 I suspect will be about making of Murdoch (William as a 9 year old +). |
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- in MURDOCH AU NATUREL, in the fifth of the sixth season; he was Helmut LINDEMANN.
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. Whatever the case, I see things getting a little sticky between them yet again. Whether before or after the wedding is yet to be seen.