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Post by Hodge on Oct 17, 2014 2:07:27 GMT
If this does turn out to be the case what a loving mother Mama Garland would be, sacrificing one son's life to avenge another. Maybe she loved Golden Boy Darcy more, and Leslie is trying to get her to love him, too. Not much chance there he's not much of a loveable character.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 17, 2014 2:21:11 GMT
Wow mrsbrisby, I never thought of this. Mama Garland in the works! Your theory has a lot of merit and I am inclined to think that it will turn out to be the case. I have often wondered why no mention of Mr and Mrs Garland Snr. even through conversations even though I believe they are both alive. My thoughts stayed with Leslie but even then I could tell that there was something beyond grief driving his anger. He is firmly focused on Julia and implies that she betrayed Darcy and therefore his family and Julia did not show remorse for what happened. So that means it was all intentional on Julia’s part. I couldn’t quite understand that. Even if he was still hurting from the loss of his brother and came to Toronto for vengeance, he soon met Emily and got involved. That was enough to distract a young soul long enough for his initial pain to subside but that wasn’t the case. If mama Garland is the wind beneath his wings, then he is not going away. Mama won’t stop until she gets the justice she feels she deserves for her son, Darcy. Even if Julia marries, she will keep going until her little boy Leslie, dies in the process. Well, well, this is interesting. It only goes to reinforce my fear of disaster looming. If this does turn out to be the case what a loving mother Mama Garland would be, sacrificing one son's life to avenge another. Mama Garland is not thinking her baby boy will die over this. But she didn't think her son Darcy would die for knowing Julia either. This is such a terrible situation all round.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 17, 2014 2:32:49 GMT
I mean, I got this from CBCMurdoch on FB, but that doesn't necessarily mean Jilliam are actually getting married. But most probably they are, cuz otherwise the fangirls would kill them. They wouldn't dare do that. Sorry, but I don't see a wedding here. If there's one, I'll take it but I feel this is a special episode for the MM Team as a whole and they want to mark it with a celebration with all segments of their fandom.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 17, 2014 2:37:08 GMT
They wouldn't dare do that. Sorry, but I don't see a wedding here. If there's one, I'll take it but I feel this is a special episode for the MM Team as a whole and they want to mark it with a celebration with all segments of their fandom. So why would it be called HOLY MATRIMONY, Murdoch??
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Oct 17, 2014 2:40:14 GMT
Sorry, but I don't see a wedding here. If there's one, I'll take it but I feel this is a special episode for the MM Team as a whole and they want to mark it with a celebration with all segments of their fandom. So why would it be called HOLY MATRIMONY, Murdoch?? Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps?
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Post by snacky on Oct 17, 2014 2:42:57 GMT
They wouldn't dare do that. Sorry, but I don't see a wedding here. If there's one, I'll take it but I feel this is a special episode for the MM Team as a whole and they want to mark it with a celebration with all segments of their fandom. You don't see a wedding in an episode titled Holy Matrimony, Murdoch, announced with quasi wedding invitations?
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Post by snacky on Oct 17, 2014 3:06:23 GMT
So why would it be called HOLY MATRIMONY, Murdoch?? Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps? Way back when people were discussing episodes delving into character pasts, I thought the weddings were actually of Julia's parents and William's parents.
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Post by Hodge on Oct 17, 2014 3:34:48 GMT
Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps? Way back when people were discussing episodes delving into character pasts, I thought the weddings were actually of Julia's parents and William's parents. Well this will be answered two weeks on Monday and I'm not into speculation, I'll wait and see what the episode entails.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 17, 2014 3:37:10 GMT
I agree with your husband plus, my hubby thinks she is too self-centred and doesn’t like anything about her. It was the Jilliam story that finally put him off William and tipped him off the wagon. He hasn’t looked back since then. She’s had to be tough to get where she is but I don’t think that’s it. She’s just naturally like that and won’t change. It’s the way the writers intended her to be. Although I think the writers may try and fix William this season. We are already beginning to see a happier, more spritely William around Julia. Whether it will look great on him in the long run or look forced, I don't know. Julia gives me the pip. She expects all of her opinions to be respected and accepted by everyone. She has said some terrible things to William about religion knowing full well that he is a deeply devout Catholic. I would like to see him cut her off once her twice using his eloquence and rational arguments but not raise his voice. I agree she is selfish--my God, look at the mess her little temper tantrums caused them. The fact that she consulted no one nor would she listen to her family or friends before embarking on these harebrained schemes exhibits self confidence that is better placed at the feet of hubris. I do hope William calls her on it before they tie the knot. Shipper interpretation: Julia is "modern". William is "growing".
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Post by Hodge on Oct 17, 2014 3:38:35 GMT
Back to the topic of On the Waterfront. I actually watched parts one and two back to back last night and boy did it make a difference without the gap between them. The episodes ran pretty seamlessly one after the other. I did miss out the intro to E2 so that the episodes ran together. This should definitely have been a two hour episode.
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Post by ziggy on Oct 17, 2014 3:43:07 GMT
So why would it be called HOLY MATRIMONY, Murdoch?? Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps? And a murder takes place in the middle of a wedding?
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Post by ziggy on Oct 17, 2014 3:45:36 GMT
Sorry, but I don't see a wedding here. If there's one, I'll take it but I feel this is a special episode for the MM Team as a whole and they want to mark it with a celebration with all segments of their fandom. You don't see a wedding in an episode titled Holy Matrimony, Murdoch, announced with quasi wedding invitations? We know the wedding we are talking about - the Jilliam wedding. That's the one I don't see here. I don't think it's Murdoch getting married.
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Post by snacky on Oct 17, 2014 4:03:15 GMT
Julia gives me the pip. She expects all of her opinions to be respected and accepted by everyone. She has said some terrible things to William about religion knowing full well that he is a deeply devout Catholic. I would like to see him cut her off once her twice using his eloquence and rational arguments but not raise his voice. I agree she is selfish--my God, look at the mess her little temper tantrums caused them. The fact that she consulted no one nor would she listen to her family or friends before embarking on these harebrained schemes exhibits self confidence that is better placed at the feet of hubris. I do hope William calls her on it before they tie the knot. Shipper interpretation: Julia is "modern". William is "growing". William is the title character, it's his duty to grow.
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Post by carco on Oct 17, 2014 4:47:53 GMT
So why would it be called HOLY MATRIMONY, Murdoch?? Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps? Peter Mitchell's comment on the wedding invite posting in FB is that it looks like a bait and switch to him. hah!
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 17, 2014 4:53:12 GMT
Cuz there's a ton of different weddings perhaps? Peter Mitchell's comment on the wedding invite posting in FB is that it looks like a bait and switch to him. hah! Is he possibly trolling the trolls?
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