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Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 0:04:07 GMT
William had the Inspector pour them both a drink in "Murdoch in Wonderland" when he had to explain about Ava Moon. He asked the barkeep for water in MofK. He asked the bartender for water in MotK after he'd donned the suit again. Before that, when he was Klondike William, he was drinking Scotch. He's been known to drink before he just doesn't do it often. He may have been drinking scotch before he came to town but when he first went into the hotel to get the key for his 'old room' he was served a poor excuse of something in a bowl then the innkeeper walked away as William was asking for a glass of water. I do agree though that the suit and homburg William convey a very different presence than William in any other clothing. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 20, 2014 0:07:38 GMT
Nova Scotia was where William's family lived, in the show the nuns took William and his sister away. They could very well have taken them to a school in New Brunswick. I think the show skipped the episode with the aunt school teacher. I'm sure the Jesuit education was in the books, too, though, wasn't it? Yes it was however according to book William it was a very poor education. |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 0:07:56 GMT
I think it's more than attractiveness. Yannick is a pretty physically active man, and I think he just can't resist throwing out those virility vibes, however he does it. That's part of what makes the Virgin Theory implausible - and rather laughable - to a large segment of the audience. They pick up on those subliminal cues, and they aren't going to ignore what their eyes are telling them. But to me that's the enigma about William, the virility vibes coupled with the repression. Absolutely!!! *fans self*. The closest comparison I can come up with is Colin Firth's portrayal of Mr. Darcy in the BBC version of Pride and Prejudice. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 0:09:03 GMT
He asked the bartender for water in MotK after he'd donned the suit again. Before that, when he was Klondike William, he was drinking Scotch. He's been known to drink before he just doesn't do it often. He may have been drinking scotch before he came to town but when he first went into the hotel to get the key for his 'old room' he was served a poor excuse of something in a bowl then the innkeeper walked away as William was asking for a glass of water. I do agree though that the suit and homburg William convey a very different presence than William in any other clothing. My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke.  |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 0:10:23 GMT
I think the show skipped the episode with the aunt school teacher. I'm sure the Jesuit education was in the books, too, though, wasn't it? Yes it was however according to book William it was a very poor education. Did the book specify Jesuits or another denomination of Catholic missionaries? He could have been sent to the equivalent of "Indian schools". |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 0:13:24 GMT
He may have been drinking scotch before he came to town but when he first went into the hotel to get the key for his 'old room' he was served a poor excuse of something in a bowl then the innkeeper walked away as William was asking for a glass of water. I do agree though that the suit and homburg William convey a very different presence than William in any other clothing. My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke. Whatever floats your boat   ! The beauty of this series that any number of plausible scenarios can co-exist quite happily. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 0:16:47 GMT
My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke. Whatever floats your boat ! The beauty of this series that any number of plausible scenarios can co-exist quite happily. That's why I phrase it as my "vote" only. I haven't been converted to the idea he got drunk in the Yukon yet! Though I do occasionally change my mind on stuff when the moon and stars align right.  |
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Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 0:19:50 GMT
Yes it was however according to book William it was a very poor education. Did the book specify Jesuits or another denomination of Catholic missionaries? He could have been sent to the equivalent of "Indian schools". The books specify the Jesuits. I just need a refresher on the timeline. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 0:44:33 GMT
Did the book specify Jesuits or another denomination of Catholic missionaries? He could have been sent to the equivalent of "Indian schools". The books specify the Jesuits. I just need a refresher on the timeline. The movie The Mission made the Jesuits very high minded about their efforts. But I suppose some missions were very bleak instead. The movie Black Robe was sad. I'm sure their resources were few. I checked out the Wikipedia entry on Jesuits because while writing the above I had a vague memory of the order being dissolved in the late 18th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_JesusApparently it was restored in the early 19th century, and the Jesuits became very active in education and returned to the New World. And apparently they became ultra-conservative at the same time (gatekeepers of morals), which might lend itself as support for the Virgin Theory. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 1:05:52 GMT
Did the book specify Jesuits or another denomination of Catholic missionaries? He could have been sent to the equivalent of "Indian schools". The books specify the Jesuits. I just need a refresher on the timeline. This was an interesting time for Jesuit schools in Canada. They were about to be bowled over by the general Nationalization/Secularization of education: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Canada#History_of_religious_schools |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 20, 2014 1:12:10 GMT
He may have been drinking scotch before he came to town but when he first went into the hotel to get the key for his 'old room' he was served a poor excuse of something in a bowl then the innkeeper walked away as William was asking for a glass of water. I do agree though that the suit and homburg William convey a very different presence than William in any other clothing. My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke. Sorry snacky, I can't agree with you on this. This is a semi out of William experience, his whole world's been turned upside down and he's trying to forget his old life. What better way to do that than go completely against his old self. He doesn't even look like William in his Klondike gear. Of course as soon as the suit goes on he's right back to repressed William. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 20, 2014 1:13:01 GMT
Yes it was however according to book William it was a very poor education. Did the book specify Jesuits or another denomination of Catholic missionaries? He could have been sent to the equivalent of "Indian schools". Specifies Jesuits. |
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Post by Hodge on Oct 20, 2014 1:14:54 GMT
Whatever floats your boat ! The beauty of this series that any number of plausible scenarios can co-exist quite happily. That's why I phrase it as my "vote" only. I haven't been converted to the idea he got drunk in the Yukon yet! Though I do occasionally change my mind on stuff when the moon and stars align right. No one suggested he got drunk in the Yukon, just that it was alcohol in the glass. |
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Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 1:23:41 GMT
My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke. Sorry snacky, I can't agree with you on this. This is a semi out of William experience, his whole world's been turned upside down and he's trying to forget his old life. What better way to do that than go completely against his old self. He doesn't even look like William in his Klondike gear. Of course as soon as the suit goes on he's right back to repressed William. No Voter Suppression in these parts! *sends grumpy look to the U.S. Supreme Court* |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 20, 2014 3:12:41 GMT
My vote is still that he was drinking alcohol-substitutes all along, and the fact it was in a flask or tumblr was part of the joke. Sorry snacky, I can't agree with you on this. This is a semi out of William experience, his whole world's been turned upside down and he's trying to forget his old life. What better way to do that than go completely against his old self. He doesn't even look like William in his Klondike gear. Of course as soon as the suit goes on he's right back to repressed William. Yes, this. Toronto William wouldn't do these things, but he hasn't always been Toronto William. Before Toronto, he was laborer William, and later he became Klondike William. The repression or persona of Toronto William is not there, and therefore, he can act in some very non-Toronto ways. |
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