|
Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 3:47:43 GMT
Sorry snacky, I can't agree with you on this. This is a semi out of William experience, his whole world's been turned upside down and he's trying to forget his old life. What better way to do that than go completely against his old self. He doesn't even look like William in his Klondike gear. Of course as soon as the suit goes on he's right back to repressed William. Yes, this. Toronto William wouldn't do these things, but he hasn't always been Toronto William. Before Toronto, he was laborer William, and later he became Klondike William. The repression or persona of Toronto William is not there, and therefore, he can act in some very non-Toronto ways. When you repress, the repressed layers always peek through, though.
|
|
|
Post by Fallenbelle on Oct 20, 2014 4:07:35 GMT
Yes, this. Toronto William wouldn't do these things, but he hasn't always been Toronto William. Before Toronto, he was laborer William, and later he became Klondike William. The repression or persona of Toronto William is not there, and therefore, he can act in some very non-Toronto ways. When you repress, the repressed layers always peek through, though. Yes, and show up as pervy William. But we're talking about specific out of William experiences. Such TMI, and Murdoch of the Klondike. Klondike William just had has ass handed to him both professionally and personally. As far as I'm concerned, he'd earned a bit of uncharacteristically William behavior and freedom to wallow. But a William being who he was, didn't stay there for long.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 4:11:04 GMT
When you repress, the repressed layers always peek through, though. Yes, and show up as pervy William. But we're talking about specific out of William experiences. Such TMI, and Murdoch of the Klondike. Klondike William just had has ass handed to him both professionally and personally. As far as I'm concerned, he'd earned a bit of uncharacteristically William behavior and freedom to wallow. But a William being who he was, didn't stay there for long. He's earned the freedom to wallow and was wallowing, but I think the humor in it was he couldn't quite bring himself to drink more than soda pop...in a flask. But that's just my view on it. Obviously mileage is varying a lot on this one.
|
|
|
Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 20, 2014 16:20:14 GMT
The books specify the Jesuits. I just need a refresher on the timeline. The movie The Mission made the Jesuits very high minded about their efforts. But I suppose some missions were very bleak instead. The movie Black Robe was sad. I'm sure their resources were few. I checked out the Wikipedia entry on Jesuits because while writing the above I had a vague memory of the order being dissolved in the late 18th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_JesusApparently it was restored in the early 19th century, and the Jesuits became very active in education and returned to the New World. And apparently they became ultra-conservative at the same time (gatekeepers of morals), which might lend itself as support for the Virgin Theory. Jesuits are well known for their excellent schools and education is at the heart of their mission. They are the most forward thinking of all the orders and have made important contributions to women's rights and other social causes. Pope Francis is a Jesuit and he is trying to bring the Church kicking and screaming into the modern world, but it will be a tough fight.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 17:20:44 GMT
The movie The Mission made the Jesuits very high minded about their efforts. But I suppose some missions were very bleak instead. The movie Black Robe was sad. I'm sure their resources were few. I checked out the Wikipedia entry on Jesuits because while writing the above I had a vague memory of the order being dissolved in the late 18th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_JesusApparently it was restored in the early 19th century, and the Jesuits became very active in education and returned to the New World. And apparently they became ultra-conservative at the same time (gatekeepers of morals), which might lend itself as support for the Virgin Theory. Jesuits are well known for their excellent schools and education is at the heart of their mission. They are the most forward thinking of all the orders and have made important contributions to women's rights and other social causes. Pope Francis is a Jesuit and he is trying to bring the Church kicking and screaming into the modern world, but it will be a tough fight. It seems after their restoration in the 19th century they came back as ultra-conservative Pope/doctrine-hawks, though. Wikipedia said they were the ones that pushed for Papal Infallibility.
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 17:33:10 GMT
Jesuits are well known for their excellent schools and education is at the heart of their mission. They are the most forward thinking of all the orders and have made important contributions to women's rights and other social causes. Pope Francis is a Jesuit and he is trying to bring the Church kicking and screaming into the modern world, but it will be a tough fight. It seems after their restoration in the 19th century they came back as ultra-conservative Pope/doctrine-hawks, though. Wikipedia said they were the ones that pushed for Papal Infallibility. I was always under the impression that Papal Infallibility has been a cornerstone of Catholic doctrine from the beginning.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Oct 20, 2014 19:25:43 GMT
It seems after their restoration in the 19th century they came back as ultra-conservative Pope/doctrine-hawks, though. Wikipedia said they were the ones that pushed for Papal Infallibility. I was always under the impression that Papal Infallibility has been a cornerstone of Catholic doctrine from the beginning. Nope, it was a figment invention of the 19th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
|
|
|
Post by lovemondays on Oct 20, 2014 20:52:33 GMT
I was always under the impression that Papal Infallibility has been a cornerstone of Catholic doctrine from the beginning. Nope, it was a figment invention of the 19th century: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibilityHuh. You learn something new every day. From Wiki: "This doctrine was defined dogmatically in the First Vatican Council of 1869–1870, but had been defended before that, existing already in medieval theology and being the majority opinion at the time of the Counter-Reformation.[3]". So the concept has been around forever but it wasn't made official until 1870. Got it.
|
|
|
Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 4:13:03 GMT
Hello! The wedding day is approaching... Did anybody get an invitation? I was on facebook and nothing happened that I could tell.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Oct 21, 2014 4:15:20 GMT
Hello! The wedding day is approaching... Did anybody get an invitation? I was on facebook and nothing happened that I could tell.
Yes, you must have been looking in the wrong place. But lovemondays and Eus got theirs.
|
|
|
Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 6:27:09 GMT
Yes, you must have been looking in the wrong place. But lovemondays and Eus got theirs. I clicked on the link at the bottom of the invitation. Oh well, can't go anyway, my hubby is whisking me away for a romantic getaway.
|
|
|
Post by snacky on Oct 21, 2014 6:37:43 GMT
Yes, you must have been looking in the wrong place. But lovemondays and Eus got theirs. I clicked on the link at the bottom of the invitation. Oh well, can't go anyway, my hubby is whisking me away for a romantic getaway. Maybe the time was wrong because of time differences? Anyway, romantic getawya is more important, hahaha.
|
|
|
Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 17:02:24 GMT
I clicked on the link at the bottom of the invitation. Oh well, can't go anyway, my hubby is whisking me away for a romantic getaway. Maybe the time was wrong because of time differences? Anyway, romantic getawya is more important, hahaha. Absolutely! Love to get away with my guy. Forty-five years and counting.
|
|
|
Post by Hodge on Oct 21, 2014 17:09:54 GMT
Maybe the time was wrong because of time differences? Anyway, romantic getawya is more important, hahaha. Absolutely! Love to get away with my guy. Forty-five years and counting. Wow, congratulations! We were 35 this year.
|
|
|
Post by mrsbrisby on Oct 21, 2014 17:16:27 GMT
Absolutely! Love to get away with my guy. Forty-five years and counting. Wow, congratulations! We were 35 this year. Congratulations to you, too.
|
|