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Post by carco on Feb 17, 2015 6:01:08 GMT
I loved Brackenreid in this episode. We saw a side to him we haven't seen much of before...less bluster, calmer with more knowledge and experience coming through. He called George, George! Awwwwww. He was right to say something to Emily as soon as he got wind of it...he didn't threaten her or lecture her...just kind of left it to her to decide what her next move would be if anything. I suspect if Brackenreid hadn't said anything to Emily she wouldn't have made that move, or at least not yet. I wonder if Lillian was waiting for Emily to make a move. She's looked like she was going to make a move herself for some time but perhaps she didn't want to force the issue and waited for Emily. I agree, don't think Emily had decided on what she was going to do about Lillian until the Inspector talked to her and then she just went into her rebellious "Oh yeah? Watch me" mode. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 6:13:16 GMT
My guess is men in 1902 handled such things by choosing to ignore them until they couldn't or needed to use the information as leverage to achieve some other goal. Brax said he "doesn't want to know" and that he "wants to see her remain as coroner". It was also Charlie giving him the information so there are a lot of conflicting emotions and loyalties going on with Brax even though he put the fellow on a slow boat to Auckland. I'm very proud of the Inspector with this one. My feeling is this is the 'real' Brackenreid. He chooses the 'right path' even when it's difficult. He and William are quite alike, they just use very different methods to arrive at the same answer. I loved Brackenreid in this episode. We saw a side to him we haven't seen much of before...less bluster, calmer with more knowledge and experience coming through. He called George, George! Awwwwww. He was right to say something to Emily as soon as he got wind of it...he didn't threaten her or lecture her...just kind of left it to her to decide what her next move would be if anything. Say what? When did he call him George? Near the end? |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 6:21:21 GMT
I loved Brackenreid in this episode. We saw a side to him we haven't seen much of before...less bluster, calmer with more knowledge and experience coming through. He called George, George! Awwwwww. He was right to say something to Emily as soon as he got wind of it...he didn't threaten her or lecture her...just kind of left it to her to decide what her next move would be if anything. I suspect if Brackenreid hadn't said anything to Emily she wouldn't have made that move, or at least not yet. I wonder if Lillian was waiting for Emily to make a move. She's looked like she was going to make a move herself for some time but perhaps she didn't want to force the issue and waited for Emily. I was going to say that's how it went down in my fic too but then I remembered Lilian was the one to make the first move due to being drunk...but it was Emily who initiated the real 'border crossing.' ...then they both end up hurting each other and the relationship is ruined and she gets back together with George because Edna's husband is actually still alive...haha, yeah, it's not going to go like this. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:26:10 GMT
I suspect if Brackenreid hadn't said anything to Emily she wouldn't have made that move, or at least not yet. I wonder if Lillian was waiting for Emily to make a move. She's looked like she was going to make a move herself for some time but perhaps she didn't want to force the issue and waited for Emily. I agree, don't think Emily had decided on what she was going to do about Lillian until the Inspector talked to her and then she just went into her rebellious "Oh yeah? Watch me" mode. Yay - someone put it up at a reasonable hour!  I thought the way Brackenreid handled it was historically accurate. It's something that school girls experiment with, but don't drag your personal life into the office. I also like how fast he said he "didn't give a toss" to Charlie. Totally agree Emily wouldn't have made a move if Brackenreid hadn't dared her to do it. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:31:01 GMT
This is exactly why she rubbed me the wrong way. I couldn't stand her attitude towards people when she didn't know them and her only reason for her opinion was because they were married. Totally unreasonable. Tonight she was quite tolerable and dare I say it, I actually liked her. We'll see about the future though!! I don't like Lillian, just because I find her rude and abrasive but her, "I'm not a toy" remark threw me off. At this point in time I'm not at all sure that Emily is NOT treating her like a toy. If Emily is experimenting and testing limits then it could be Lillian who gets hurt in the end. Just no telling where this goes from here. Yes, it seemed like Lillian was so in love with Emily that she was afraid to make any sort of pass at her for fear of rejection. And now that Emily is responding, she's afraid she's just a test subject. Also Emily knew what Lillian wanted, even if they weren't discussing it, so sapphism wasn't unknown to her. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:34:11 GMT
At the risk of sounding US-self-important, this is pretty epic social upheaval here, and Yannick at least regularly goes down to LA. I imagine some news of what goes on in the US trickles across the border. Actually I think you put way too much stock in what happens in the US affecting things here especially when it's not regularly on our news. It's just in the case of Lillian's character. The thing with throwing the brick through the window, the whole conversation about "radical protesting", - weirdly familiar. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:39:40 GMT
I loved Brackenreid in this episode. We saw a side to him we haven't seen much of before...less bluster, calmer with more knowledge and experience coming through. He called George, George! Awwwwww. He was right to say something to Emily as soon as he got wind of it...he didn't threaten her or lecture her...just kind of left it to her to decide what her next move would be if anything. Ever since the last episode last year, we're supposed to be looking at the new "elder Brackenreid". Now he's wearing spectacles. Now he paints. Now perhaps he's doing his puzzle book at night. He's definitely Chairman of Board. William also looks like more of a bureaucrat. I think I drew the conclusion he was wearing a different suit because he's just filling it out more. Reda might actually be adding some padding to it. He used to do that with Brackenreid's suits to make him look more like a satisfied married man. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 6:40:16 GMT
Actually I think you put way too much stock in what happens in the US affecting things here especially when it's not regularly on our news. It's just in the case of Lillian's character. The thing with throwing the brick through the window, the whole conversation about "radical protesting", - weirdly familiar. Maybe but people throw bricks through windows here too. |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Feb 17, 2015 6:41:53 GMT
I don't like Lillian, just because I find her rude and abrasive but her, "I'm not a toy" remark threw me off. At this point in time I'm not at all sure that Emily is NOT treating her like a toy. If Emily is experimenting and testing limits then it could be Lillian who gets hurt in the end. Just no telling where this goes from here. Yes, it seemed like Lillian was so in love with Emily that she was afraid to make any sort of pass at her for fear of rejection. And now that Emily is responding, she's afraid she's just a test subject. Also Emily knew what Lillian wanted, even if they weren't discussing it, so sapphism wasn't unknown to her. No overt passes, but pretty much every other line of dialogue had a double meaning. At least, I kept getting that impression. Well, if that lady at the club picked up on it in like thirty seconds, and considering Emily is pretty observant herself, not to mention Lilian undressed her...I'd hope she'd have some clue of what was going on...but then again, it's often the ones closest to it that are the most blind. |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 6:46:16 GMT
Yes, it seemed like Lillian was so in love with Emily that she was afraid to make any sort of pass at her for fear of rejection. And now that Emily is responding, she's afraid she's just a test subject. Also Emily knew what Lillian wanted, even if they weren't discussing it, so sapphism wasn't unknown to her. No overt passes, but pretty much every other line of dialogue had a double meaning. At least, I kept getting that impression. Well, if that lady at the club picked up on it in like thirty seconds, and considering Emily is pretty observant herself, not to mention Lilian undressed her...I'd hope she'd have some clue of what was going on...but then again, it's often the ones closest to it that are the most blind. Yes, sometimes it's easier for someone looking on to see than it is for someone close. I was thinking this may have been the case with Emily as she didn't seem to be clued in until tonight's ep however maybe she was just playing her cards close to her chest. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:58:09 GMT
No overt passes, but pretty much every other line of dialogue had a double meaning. At least, I kept getting that impression. Well, if that lady at the club picked up on it in like thirty seconds, and considering Emily is pretty observant herself, not to mention Lilian undressed her...I'd hope she'd have some clue of what was going on...but then again, it's often the ones closest to it that are the most blind. In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... |
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Post by lizmc on Feb 17, 2015 6:58:49 GMT
Actually I think you put way too much stock in what happens in the US affecting things here especially when it's not regularly on our news. It's just in the case of Lillian's character. The thing with throwing the brick through the window, the whole conversation about "radical protesting", - weirdly familiar. That is more likely to be a reference to events in Toronto, though. We had large scale damage done in the G20 riots a couple of years ago and we have an anti-poverty group which occasionally protests and those have been known to get out of hand. There is plenty going on in the writers' own backyard to give them material.....
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 6:59:33 GMT
It's just in the case of Lillian's character. The thing with throwing the brick through the window, the whole conversation about "radical protesting", - weirdly familiar. Maybe but people throw bricks through windows here too. In the context of political protests? That actually hit people? |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 17, 2015 7:01:05 GMT
No overt passes, but pretty much every other line of dialogue had a double meaning. At least, I kept getting that impression. Well, if that lady at the club picked up on it in like thirty seconds, and considering Emily is pretty observant herself, not to mention Lilian undressed her...I'd hope she'd have some clue of what was going on...but then again, it's often the ones closest to it that are the most blind. In speaking of undressing - is Emily going permanently corset-free now - including at work? I wonder if Charlie noticed that... I was wondering the same thing. I would think he'd have to have his hands on to really notice as it's not obvious otherwise. |
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Post by snacky on Feb 17, 2015 7:01:31 GMT
It's just in the case of Lillian's character. The thing with throwing the brick through the window, the whole conversation about "radical protesting", - weirdly familiar. That is more likely to be a reference to events in Toronto, though. We had large scale damage done in the G20 riots a couple of years ago and we have an anti-poverty group which occasionally protests and those have been known to get out of hand. There is plenty going on in the writers' own backyard to give them material.....
That's true - several people mentioned how the suffragette scuffle in On the Waterfront reminded them of the G20 riots. Did they also have the component of different age and interest groups fighting over the right protest "tactics"? |
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