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Post by bookworm1225 on Dec 12, 2014 17:51:16 GMT
I just received notification that it will start the 21st not the 17th. There really is no excuse for Ovation to cut MM at all, especially the first five seasons since the episodes were no longer than 44 minutes--that leaves plenty of room for ads. Shaftsbury/CBC should have done a better job of protecting the integrity of their work and Ovation should be ashamed of itself for destroying the "art" in the construction of all episodes. Actually, the episodes in the first five seasons run between 47 1/2 and 48 1/2 minutes. Seasons 6 and 7 are at the 44 minute mark. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 12, 2014 18:02:02 GMT
I just received notification that it will start the 21st not the 17th. There really is no excuse for Ovation to cut MM at all, especially the first five seasons since the episodes were no longer than 44 minutes--that leaves plenty of room for ads. Shaftsbury/CBC should have done a better job of protecting the integrity of their work and Ovation should be ashamed of itself for destroying the "art" in the construction of all episodes. Actually, the episodes in the first five seasons run between 47 1/2 and 48 1/2 minutes. Seasons 6 and 7 are at the 44 minute mark. Ay caramba, no wonder so much has to be cut. I wonder if I even see all of them on the versions I watch. *steals my Mom's DVDs* |
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 13, 2014 8:18:17 GMT
Actually, the episodes in the first five seasons run between 47 1/2 and 48 1/2 minutes. Seasons 6 and 7 are at the 44 minute mark. Right you are. I got it turned around. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Post by mrsbrisby on Dec 13, 2014 8:27:56 GMT
Actually, the episodes in the first five seasons run between 47 1/2 and 48 1/2 minutes. Seasons 6 and 7 are at the 44 minute mark. Right you are. I got it turned around. Thanks for the heads up. I do not understand why Shaftsbury/CBC is not protecting their program. This kind of slash and burn editing is usually seen in old series that have been in syndication a long time, like five years or more. This is just unacceptable. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 13, 2014 16:30:27 GMT
Right you are. I got it turned around. Thanks for the heads up. I do not understand why Shaftsbury/CBC is not protecting their program. This kind of slash and burn editing is usually seen in old series that have been in syndication a long time, like five years or more. This is just unacceptable. I think it's because it's hard to sell syndication programming as it is. The availability of "reruns" on the Internet supposedly lowers their value even though only a certain segment of the audience would resort to those. The main reason to sell reruns, IMHO, is as a loss leader to build a fandom to sell the new episodes. (In the future, I think it will be about more than just selling the TV episodes - scripted TV itself will have to be seen as a larger business endeavor). However, if MM built its fandom based on the shipper arc, how are the syndicated shows going to build a fandom in the US without those shipper bits? |
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Dec 14, 2014 4:11:47 GMT
I warned my father against watching the US Syndicated versions today-basically told him that if he wanted to watch Murdoch Mysteries he was only allowed to watch the "full" versions from my DVD's. I got rather intense about it and I think I might have scared him a little  |
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Post by snacky on Dec 14, 2014 6:09:01 GMT
I warned my father against watching the US Syndicated versions today-basically told him that if he wanted to watch Murdoch Mysteries he was only allowed to watch the "full" versions from my DVD's. I got rather intense about it and I think I might have scared him a little LOL! Well if he is in the US, let him go ahead and watch the syndicated series. If syndication is successful and the show gains fans, then the new episodes get purchased (for a lot more money). |
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Post by snacky on Dec 15, 2014 10:07:28 GMT
The Prince and the Rebel: Jilliam scrubbed out again to make room for commercials.
No Julia taking care of William's wrist burns at the end and getting all weepy at the possibility of his demise (so shortly after being shot in the chest with an arrow, lol...).
Once again, I have to reiterate the utter stupidity of this editing in terms of building up an "addict type" native fan base in the US. All that are airing now are one-off mysteries, cheaply made, set in TORONTO. They may appeal a bit to history buffs if the cuts and weird pacing don't mess up the viewing experience of the mystery all together.
These sort of cuts are a lose-lose for the stations showing them, because if the show doesn't gather the audience, then who is viewing the commercials - no matter how much extra room you made for extra commercials.
I've heard nothing but how cheap syndicated TV is these days. If it's really that cheap, then TV stations don't have to stuff them with SO many commercials that it actually makes the show nonsensical.
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Post by snacky on Dec 22, 2014 9:12:48 GMT
In today's US Syndication news: TV guide claimed Snakes & Ladders, reality is rerun of "The Prince and the Rebel" for the second week in a row. Huh.
Obviously I'll have the same complaints about the Julia segments being cut out this week. Another thing to mention: because the Canadian version didn't have the pre-music-intro teaser, the US version has been creating this teaser. For this episode, they did something especially weird in splicing together cuts from different scenes near the start of the episode. The effect is something a series of flashbacks or "scenes from the previous week" before the intro music, even though it's actually the regular show.
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Post by Hodge on Dec 22, 2014 16:57:02 GMT
In today's US Syndication news: TV guide claimed Snakes & Ladders, reality is rerun of "The Prince and the Rebel" for the second week in a row. Huh. Obviously I'll have the same complaints about the Julia segments being cut out this week. Another thing to mention: because the Canadian version didn't have the pre-music-intro teaser, the US version has been creating this teaser. For this episode, they did something especially weird in splicing together cuts from different scenes near the start of the episode. The effect is something a series of flashbacks or "scenes from the previous week" before the intro music, even though it's actually the regular show. I told you be careful what you wish for. US networks can't help but 'play' with stuff to make it 'better'. Why they think Americans can't deal with programmes the way they were originally made I don't know. Perhaps it's something to do with the race to the bottom.  I despair of TV and American TV in particular and rarely watch anything made outside of Canada or the UK these days. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 23, 2014 4:58:56 GMT
In today's US Syndication news: TV guide claimed Snakes & Ladders, reality is rerun of "The Prince and the Rebel" for the second week in a row. Huh. Obviously I'll have the same complaints about the Julia segments being cut out this week. Another thing to mention: because the Canadian version didn't have the pre-music-intro teaser, the US version has been creating this teaser. For this episode, they did something especially weird in splicing together cuts from different scenes near the start of the episode. The effect is something a series of flashbacks or "scenes from the previous week" before the intro music, even though it's actually the regular show. I told you be careful what you wish for. US networks can't help but 'play' with stuff to make it 'better'. Why they think Americans can't deal with programmes the way they were originally made I don't know. Perhaps it's something to do with the race to the bottom. I despair of TV and American TV in particular and rarely watch anything made outside of Canada or the UK these days. But Americans love cheesy soap operas! It's the Jilliam that's getting cut out the most savagely here...and what's left is just some random Canadian show. Who is the genius (*sarcasm*) behind this operation? |
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Post by Hodge on Dec 23, 2014 5:41:22 GMT
I told you be careful what you wish for. US networks can't help but 'play' with stuff to make it 'better'. Why they think Americans can't deal with programmes the way they were originally made I don't know. Perhaps it's something to do with the race to the bottom. I despair of TV and American TV in particular and rarely watch anything made outside of Canada or the UK these days. But Americans love cheesy soap operas! It's the Jilliam that's getting cut out the most savagely here...and what's left is just some random Canadian show. Who is the genius (*sarcasm*) behind this operation? Well they obviously don't *get* MM. It's a police procedural isn't it after all it is called Murdoch MYSTERIES not Murdoch Romance, why would it have all this romance stuff in it? They need someone to sit down and watch a few eps, better still a few seasons, to see what it really is and I doubt anyone has actually done that. I wouldn't trust them with it even if they did. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Dec 23, 2014 16:27:01 GMT
I told you be careful what you wish for. US networks can't help but 'play' with stuff to make it 'better'. Why they think Americans can't deal with programmes the way they were originally made I don't know. Perhaps it's something to do with the race to the bottom. I despair of TV and American TV in particular and rarely watch anything made outside of Canada or the UK these days. But Americans love cheesy soap operas! It's the Jilliam that's getting cut out the most savagely here...and what's left is just some random Canadian show. Who is the genius (*sarcasm*) behind this operation? So, besides my stepmother, guess who else us a fan of "The Artful Detective?" My 85 year old step grandmother! We were going out to dinner when she said she wanted to be back in time for one of her favorite programs, and proceeded to tell me what a wonderful show it was! Of course, I told her that I'd seen it, and we talked about it. My grandfather even enjoys it-even if it isn't a Western! So, despite the lack of marketing, it does seem to be gathering an audience, just not a lot of buzz. |
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Post by snacky on Dec 24, 2014 7:03:23 GMT
But Americans love cheesy soap operas! It's the Jilliam that's getting cut out the most savagely here...and what's left is just some random Canadian show. Who is the genius (*sarcasm*) behind this operation? So, besides my stepmother, guess who else us a fan of "The Artful Detective?" My 85 year old step grandmother! We were going out to dinner when she said she wanted to be back in time for one of her favorite programs, and proceeded to tell me what a wonderful show it was! Of course, I told her that I'd seen it, and we talked about it. My grandfather even enjoys it-even if it isn't a Western! So, despite the lack of marketing, it does seem to be gathering an audience, just not a lot of buzz. Do tell how she discovered it? Was it word of mouth from your stepmother? Channel surfing in the general direction of Ovation? Does she have other friends who actually know of/watch this show? I'm eager for hints on how to spread the gospel! |
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Post by snacky on Dec 24, 2014 7:42:39 GMT
But Americans love cheesy soap operas! It's the Jilliam that's getting cut out the most savagely here...and what's left is just some random Canadian show. Who is the genius (*sarcasm*) behind this operation? Well they obviously don't *get* MM. It's a police procedural isn't it after all it is called Murdoch MYSTERIES not Murdoch Romance, why would it have all this romance stuff in it? They need someone to sit down and watch a few eps, better still a few seasons, to see what it really is and I doubt anyone has actually done that. I wouldn't trust them with it even if they did. Christine Jennings should have some "edit integrity" team to oversee foreign syndication butcheries.  |
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I despair of TV and American TV in particular and rarely watch anything made outside of Canada or the UK these days.
