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Post by snacky on Feb 23, 2015 4:47:40 GMT
I may not have imagined it when I said I thought MM seemed "speeded up" somehow in the Syndicated version. Apparently this is actually a thing. Cable TV has been using compression techniques to speed up shows in order to fit in more commercials. www.engadget.com/2015/02/19/cable-networks-speeding-up-shows/MM will not get a viewership through syndication. The people that want to watch it will find it through other means. One of the syndicated episodes may tempt someone to look further but I predict the syndicated eps themselves won't last long. You can't screw with a good show and expect it to have the same draw as the original. Perhaps they're trying to appeal to a different segment than the usual MM audience but doG knows who that could be since MM appeals to almost every demographic as it is. Just having it on syndication in the US adds to Word of Mouth, so it benefits Shaftesbury, but, hilariously, not the people who purchased it. No one (except for me) is going to watch it at the time it airs where I am anyway. 1am Sunday night on a local channel - c'mon, dudes. I'm curious whether the edits of the syndicated version are all the same or locally controlled, though. For instance, would the stations that air MM earlier on the day (and advertised the launch) take more care about the editing? Are they trying to cultivate a local audience? I haven't seen any drift by this forum, though... |
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Post by Hodge on Feb 23, 2015 6:19:43 GMT
MM will not get a viewership through syndication. The people that want to watch it will find it through other means. One of the syndicated episodes may tempt someone to look further but I predict the syndicated eps themselves won't last long. You can't screw with a good show and expect it to have the same draw as the original. Perhaps they're trying to appeal to a different segment than the usual MM audience but doG knows who that could be since MM appeals to almost every demographic as it is. Just having it on syndication in the US adds to Word of Mouth, so it benefits Shaftesbury, but, hilariously, not the people who purchased it. No one (except for me) is going to watch it at the time it airs where I am anyway. 1am Sunday night on a local channel - c'mon, dudes. I'm curious whether the edits of the syndicated version are all the same or locally controlled, though. For instance, would the stations that air MM earlier on the day (and advertised the launch) take more care about the editing? Are they trying to cultivate a local audience? I haven't seen any drift by this forum, though... Fb may be the place to ask that question. Several people have said they've seen it on local TV. |
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Post by snacky on Apr 20, 2015 9:00:26 GMT
This week's US Syndication Travesty: in "Elementary, My Dear Murdoch", William never discusses Liza with Julia or gives Julia the bullet detector.  Also, after running the first 2 seasons mostly in order, the station now seems to be just airing random episodes from the first 2 seasons. I'm not sure if station ordered any more than the first 2 seasons. I should be bumming about that, but the fact they are only shown at 1am on Sunday and so terribly chopped up makes me wonder if, for the sake of the show's International reputation, they are better off if KRON gives up on it.  It's sad because there's a huge steampunk community here that would have formed a natural audience. |
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Post by Hodge on Apr 20, 2015 15:42:41 GMT
This week's US Syndication Travesty: in "Elementary, My Dear Murdoch", William never discusses Liza with Julia or gives Julia the bullet detector. Also, after running the first 2 seasons mostly in order, the station now seems to be just airing random episodes from the first 2 seasons. I'm not sure is station ordered any more than the first 2 seasons. I should be bumming about that, but the fact they are only shown at 1am on Sunday and so terribly chopped up makes me wonder if, for the sake of the show's International reputation, they are better off if KRON gives up on it. It's sad because there's a huge steampunk community here that would have formed a natural audience. It sounds to me like the US stations bought it but now don't know what to do with it. It needs someone with foresight to put it on at a time people would watch and be careful in their edits, even just for a couple of episodes, to see if it makes waves. Unfortunately no one in TV has the guts to do that. |
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Post by snacky on Sept 28, 2015 8:34:12 GMT
It looks like KRON 4 dropped Murdoch Mysteries. This was a debacle from the start: MM only aired 1-2am on Sundays, the show description was always an episode off, they only ran the first 3 seasons, and the episodes that ran had a ton of cuts. Having lobbied so hard for US syndication, I was terribly disappointed. Did the same thing happen in other areas that ran the syndicated version? |
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Post by lea on Sept 28, 2015 13:24:05 GMT
It looks like KRON 4 dropped Murdoch Mysteries. This was a debacle from the start: MM only aired 1-2am on Sundays, the show description was always an episode off, they only ran the first 3 seasons, and the episodes that ran had a ton of cuts. Having lobbied so hard for US syndication, I was terribly disappointed. Did the same thing happen in other areas that ran the syndicated version? I just discovered that The CW runs it on (I think) Sundays. It was middle of the day but couldn't tell ya what time. |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Sept 28, 2015 16:35:04 GMT
It looks like KRON 4 dropped Murdoch Mysteries. This was a debacle from the start: MM only aired 1-2am on Sundays, the show description was always an episode off, they only ran the first 3 seasons, and the episodes that ran had a ton of cuts. Having lobbied so hard for US syndication, I was terribly disappointed. Did the same thing happen in other areas that ran the syndicated version? Yeah, looks like the Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN, channel that was carrying it has dropped it. Though they're still showing 'Republic of Doyle.' |
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Post by oklahomafan on Sept 28, 2015 21:03:45 GMT
It looks like KRON 4 dropped Murdoch Mysteries. This was a debacle from the start: MM only aired 1-2am on Sundays, the show description was always an episode off, they only ran the first 3 seasons, and the episodes that ran had a ton of cuts. Having lobbied so hard for US syndication, I was terribly disappointed. Did the same thing happen in other areas that ran the syndicated version? Yeah, looks like the Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN, channel that was carrying it has dropped it. Though they're still showing 'Republic of Doyle.' The only thing that makes syndication feasible is that we Americans are all too familiar with the process. I bought the complete DVD sets because I saw them in syndication. It is too bad they cut stuff out but it is better than not seeing them at all... FYI you should see what they have done to shows like M*A*S*H and what is the excuse there it was an American show.? |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Sept 30, 2015 17:01:50 GMT
Yeah, looks like the Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN, channel that was carrying it has dropped it. Though they're still showing 'Republic of Doyle.' The only thing that makes syndication feasible is that we Americans are all too familiar with the process. I bought the complete DVD sets because I saw them in syndication. It is too bad they cut stuff out but it is better than not seeing them at all... FYI you should see what they have done to shows like M*A*S*H and what is the excuse there it was an American show.? Ohhh, yeah, I know all about that. Boils down to 1 word - commercials. Over the years and decades, the amount of time spent on commercials per hour has steadily increased. Anything from the past being broadcast has content cut to make room for them. The older the show is, the more that gets cut. |
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Post by urbanperegrine on Dec 24, 2015 19:50:44 GMT
There are a couple of problems. First, PBS scheduling and/or the speed of deal-making still results in major delays. Downton Abbey and Sherlock air on PBS here, and both get downloaded by younger viewers first simply because they want to see the show at the same time as the "International fandom". The second issue is PBS is run like a confederacy: there isn't a Kingdom of PBS - there are lots of tiny fiefdoms of PBS that decide, locally, what to air. So while they seem to have an "uber" structure that is capable of making big deals on behalf of the tiny stations, the tiny stations then decide whether to lease it from the "uber" structure and when to air it, etc. ... On the bright side, PBS has long needed a lift from its elitist (I should apologize for this, but Americans automatically associated British accents with intelligence, money, and elitism) rut so it can win next generation viewers and secure Congressional funding. PBS is under more siege than the CBC because it's a completely "public" station (government funding plus donations/sponsors) and unfortunately strongly associated with partisan politics. Therefore the attack on its funding is bound to be successful eventually. I believe Downton Abbey and Sherlock were big successes for PBS. If it could secure NEW episodes of Murdoch Mysteries to run at the same time as the Canadian ones, I think that could be a hit here, too. Especially if the network syndication of the reruns creates an underlying runway of interest. Point taken about the structure of PBS, though there's also an aspect of the dreaded culture war wrapped up in it as well. I seem to recall some PBS affiliates having objections to Tales of the City especially since there was some brief full-frontal nudity in one episode, with the result that the show was aired late at night, in some cases with an electronic fig leaf or some such editing. It may be that some viewers (especially younger ones) download or stream content to avoid the local prudes' editing (I have, and I'm not as young as all that). Specifically for MM, the contraception subplot and Julia's past abortion (coupled with her lack of regret for it) would doubtless raise the ire of some politicians, and many congressional districts are so gerrymandered that the reps almost have to pander to such views to keep their seats. This has as much to do with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting's oversight woes as anything. |
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Post by lizmc on Feb 1, 2016 23:49:32 GMT
I keep meaning to reply to this.......one problem with PBS picking up MM is that most, if not all Canadian Cable companies have a PBS station on their basic roster. (Toronto gets Buffalo, Montreal gets Platsberg, NY, South Western Ontario gets Detroit, etc.), so I doubt the CBC would agree to the competition from PBS broadcasting the current series at the same time, or close to it, especially since PBS is advert free (even if you do have to sit through endless fundraising campaigns).....also, PBS has been known to cut programmes to the point they don't make sense.....I remember a BBC version of Oliver Twist, adapted by Alan Bleasdale, and PBS wanted the 6 episode series to be broadcast in 5, so they cut a full 45 minutes.....if a viewer didn't know the story already, it would have made no sense at all.......Another network that might want to pick it up would be A&E, but I'd think the CBC would have the same problem as A&E is included in basic packages as well......
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