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Post by murdochic on Nov 5, 2015 19:58:32 GMT
Julia was exhausted because she was working late hours on this case. She worked later than a coroner generally would which is why she met Rebecca. I don't think there's a hidden reason for why she mentioned being exhausted. Julia couldn't be both the coroner and the head psychiatrist at the asylum. She wouldn't have the time to do both jobs as they're full-time positions. She must has left the asylum. We just didn't get the reason why. I'm wondering just how formally educated Rebecca can be. I'd assume because she's a black woman, she hasn't been able to have much formal education, but with Julia's support she'll have better access from now on. A few black women managed to get into the Seven Sisters colleges in the 19th century: faculty.washington.edu/joyann/EDLPS531/Perkins.pdfA number of the historically black colleges for women were also founded in the 19th century, including Spelman: www.ehow.com/info_7948065_listing-historically-black-colleges-women.htmlWow, I didn't know that! Glad this question gave me cause to look it up! Regarding Julia: she worked at the asylum, but was she the head of it? If she is juggling 2 jobs, the exhaustion might turn into a cause for her to return full-time to the morgue. Or the exhaustion might just be William keeping her up all night with all the "excitement". I doubt Rebecca is college educated. She seems very smart and she may have some sort of formal education, but I just can't see her ending up as a cleaner and basically hiding herself away if she had been to college. It just doesn't fit because we've already had other characters with hidden identities, so it would be a bit soon to have another after Lillian was just explosed as not who she appeared to be. Julia was at the very least head of a department at the asylum as she had authority. She wouldn't have the time to deal with autopsy's and patients. She spent all hours working on this case, so what about the asylum then? |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 5, 2015 20:11:26 GMT
Julia was exhausted because she was working late hours on this case. She worked later than a coroner generally would which is why she met Rebecca. I don't think there's a hidden reason for why she mentioned being exhausted. Julia couldn't be both the coroner and the head psychiatrist at the asylum. She wouldn't have the time to do both jobs as they're full-time positions. She must has left the asylum. We just didn't get the reason why. I'm wondering just how formally educated Rebecca can be. I'd assume because she's a black woman, she hasn't been able to have much formal education, but with Julia's support she'll have better access from now on. Julia had gone from a fairly sedentary job at the asylum to a more physical job, with lots of standing, at the morgue. Top that off with long hours and that explains why she was exhausted. I think she would have jumped at the chance to work more closely with William again but the opportunity wasn't there whilst Emily was still the pathologist. |
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Post by carco on Nov 6, 2015 0:13:43 GMT
Julia was exhausted because she was working late hours on this case. She worked later than a coroner generally would which is why she met Rebecca. I don't think there's a hidden reason for why she mentioned being exhausted. Julia couldn't be both the coroner and the head psychiatrist at the asylum. She wouldn't have the time to do both jobs as they're full-time positions. She must has left the asylum. We just didn't get the reason why. I'm wondering just how formally educated Rebecca can be. I'd assume because she's a black woman, she hasn't been able to have much formal education, but with Julia's support she'll have better access from now on. A few black women managed to get into the Seven Sisters colleges in the 19th century: faculty.washington.edu/joyann/EDLPS531/Perkins.pdfA number of the historically black colleges for women were also founded in the 19th century, including Spelman: www.ehow.com/info_7948065_listing-historically-black-colleges-women.htmlWow, I didn't know that! Glad this question gave me cause to look it up! Regarding Julia: she worked at the asylum, but was she the head of it? If she is juggling 2 jobs, the exhaustion might turn into a cause for her to return full-time to the morgue. Or the exhaustion might just be William keeping her up all night with all the "excitement". I'd say "All of the above" (re: Julia's exhaustion). Maybe we'll hear more on her decision to leave the asylum and move back to the morgue if it comes out in bits and pieces via conversations over future episodes. Possibly it rattled her more than she realized at first, when the ladies attacked her in the asylum, so it was an easy decision. William's comment to her in the park, "always the psychiatrist" led me to believe that she was the official coroner again but it's not just a return to her old job. She brings added expertise to the table this time round as she brings the professional skills of coroner AND profiler. |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 6, 2015 4:26:31 GMT
William's always perfectly presented, so yeah, when he's not put together, it really makes quite the statement. His comfort level at their suite is already such a marked contrast from last season. This episode was great because it was Jilliam, partners at work and in love.  The thrill shall never be gone!  I liked the barefoot thing - I just wish the context had been more fathomable. Yes it was kind of confusing that they were all the sudden walking in the park and he was barefooted. It would have been fun to have one of those scenes where Julia talks him into loosening up by taking his shoes and socks of. |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 6, 2015 4:27:12 GMT
Cute picture....but, you know, Yannick is right, he does have funny ankles..... Too much time riding bicycles? |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 6, 2015 5:17:09 GMT
The thrill shall never be gone! I liked the barefoot thing - I just wish the context had been more fathomable. Yes it was kind of confusing that they were all the sudden walking in the park and he was barefooted. It would have been fun to have one of those scenes where Julia talks him into loosening up by taking his shoes and socks of. Someone posted pics of the barefoot scene on FB with a comment - Barefoot in the park. Made me think of the movie but it was so long ago that I saw it I couldn't remember anything about it so I looked it up. The way the characters in the movie are described is JUST like William and Julia. I'm wondering if the director was making a subtle reference. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_in_the_Park_%28film%29 |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 6, 2015 6:17:43 GMT
Yes it was kind of confusing that they were all the sudden walking in the park and he was barefooted. It would have been fun to have one of those scenes where Julia talks him into loosening up by taking his shoes and socks of. Someone posted pics of the barefoot scene on FB with a comment - Barefoot in the park. Made me think of the movie but it was so long ago that I saw it I couldn't remember anything about it so I looked it up. The way the characters in the movie are described is JUST like William and Julia. I'm wondering if the director was making a subtle reference. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_in_the_Park_%28film%29I thought that phrase sounded familiar. It does seem like another tongue in cheek reference to a previous cinema or industry work. One of the things I love about this show is I can watch an episode over and over and still see nuances and layers in the show. Thanks for the reminder. I bet that was what was being referenced. |
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Post by sydneyfan on Nov 6, 2015 11:03:57 GMT
The thrill shall never be gone! I liked the barefoot thing - I just wish the context had been more fathomable. Yes it was kind of confusing that they were all the sudden walking in the park and he was barefooted. It would have been fun to have one of those scenes where Julia talks him into loosening up by taking his shoes and socks of. I must admit I didn't get the symbolism, if that's what the barefoot walk was supposed to be! If they weren't dangling their feet in the water what was the point. I also didn't get why they were walking on opposite sides of the water flow, although I can speculate on the intent of coming together at the end of the flow. I couldn't care less about Williams ankles, who's looking at those when there are much cuter things to look at way above the ankles, while the putting on weight thing re the actor, I cannot see that all. I liked how Julia was revelling in the outrage of nude figures in a public arena and how cheeky she was with the "well maybe one other thing" comment re the excitement of being with William i.e. if one can imagine the buttoned up Detective letting loose in the bedroom!! Never judge a book by the cover as my old Mum would say while I could imagine him being very passionate, caring and let's say well researched!! Both Julia reactions/ comments may have shocked William in the past but his love for Julia seems to be loosening him up. May that continue. Agree with others expressing the view that it's great to see the Jilliam romance back, they are way too cute together to not capitalise on that! So pleased also that Julia is back in the morgue to enable more William interaction in a meaningful way, while from the limited exposure in the episode, I think I'm going to like Rebecca. |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 8, 2015 0:09:27 GMT
Julia was exhausted because she was working late hours on this case. She worked later than a coroner generally would which is why she met Rebecca. I don't think there's a hidden reason for why she mentioned being exhausted. Julia couldn't be both the coroner and the head psychiatrist at the asylum. She wouldn't have the time to do both jobs as they're full-time positions. She must has left the asylum. We just didn't get the reason why. I'm wondering just how formally educated Rebecca can be. I'd assume because she's a black woman, she hasn't been able to have much formal education, but with Julia's support she'll have better access from now on. I'm not totally certain of my details but I am sure I have read somewhere that by the turn of the century there were many black families that achieved a level of prominence, wealth and education in several northern cities. Perhaps Rebecca' s father was a doctor. Her diction from her few lines was exceptional, perhaps indicating at least some exposure to education and certainly anatomy. |
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Post by lizmc on Nov 8, 2015 0:28:32 GMT
Julia was exhausted because she was working late hours on this case. She worked later than a coroner generally would which is why she met Rebecca. I don't think there's a hidden reason for why she mentioned being exhausted. Julia couldn't be both the coroner and the head psychiatrist at the asylum. She wouldn't have the time to do both jobs as they're full-time positions. She must has left the asylum. We just didn't get the reason why. I'm wondering just how formally educated Rebecca can be. I'd assume because she's a black woman, she hasn't been able to have much formal education, but with Julia's support she'll have better access from now on. I'm not totally certain of my details but I am sure I have read somewhere that by the turn of the century there were many black families that achieved a level of prominence, wealth and education in several northern cities. Perhaps Rebecca' s father was a doctor. Her diction from her few lines was exceptional, perhaps indicating at least some exposure to education and certainly anatomy. There is also the possibility of her or her mother being a midwife or nurse......at that point in history, a lot of small communities wouldn't have access to a doctor and the local midwife was the main medical practitioner..... |
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Post by lovemondays on Nov 8, 2015 1:31:16 GMT
I'm not totally certain of my details but I am sure I have read somewhere that by the turn of the century there were many black families that achieved a level of prominence, wealth and education in several northern cities. Perhaps Rebecca' s father was a doctor. Her diction from her few lines was exceptional, perhaps indicating at least some exposure to education and certainly anatomy. There is also the possibility of her or her mother being a midwife or nurse......at that point in history, a lot of small communities wouldn't have access to a doctor and the local midwife was the main medical practitioner..... Very plausible. |
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Post by bookworm1225 on Nov 13, 2015 14:27:08 GMT
I have to make a small boast here. *grin* I actually hit on the 'Last Supper' painting angle before Murdoch did. I'm not sure why - it just popped into my head while he was fiddling with the pose-able figures.
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Post by snacky on Nov 14, 2015 17:43:41 GMT
I have to make a small boast here. *grin* I actually hit on the 'Last Supper' painting angle before Murdoch did. I'm not sure why - it just popped into my head while he was fiddling with the pose-able figures. I've been suspecting that you were Sherlock Holmes! |
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