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Post by snacky on Nov 19, 2015 2:19:42 GMT
*Spoilers* Who switched out the gin? The killer? or did he have an accomplice? Murdoch kept saying no one but the barkeep (and later the wife) had an opportunity to do it, so when could the killer have done it? But they didn't mention an accomplice...so unless they cut another scene...I'm probably overthinking this and the killer did switch it out on his own some time in-between the dead guys visits. Also, was it just me, or was the wife a really bad actress? This is a plot hole for me as well. How did the killer know that the barkeep would pull out the particular bottle with water? It would have been more interesting/believable if they were working together, each with their own motive. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 19, 2015 2:20:29 GMT
I've only watched once so I could be very wrong but I feel like he said the first time he got drunk was terrible. Which I doubt that was the first... I hope not anyways. I hope he wasn't referring to TGM as I don't think that experience was terrible ... unless being told not without a prophylactic was the worst thing that's happened to him. Desperate virgin losing his chance...?  |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 19, 2015 2:26:36 GMT
I hope he wasn't referring to TGM as I don't think that experience was terrible ... unless being told not without a prophylactic was the worst thing that's happened to him. Desperate virgin losing his chance...? He didn't seem particularly upset. |
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Post by snacky on Nov 19, 2015 3:09:29 GMT
Desperate virgin losing his chance...? He didn't seem particularly upset. True - but we don't know what happened later that night. If this isn't the terrible experience, we need to know the real one. Perhaps that's what resulted in the William Jr. line. |
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Post by lea on Nov 19, 2015 5:08:22 GMT
I've only watched once so I could be very wrong but I feel like he said the first time he got drunk was terrible. Which I doubt that was the first... I hope not anyways. That throw-away line deserves an episode where we discover William's first engagement with alcohol...! I'd love to know about this as well! In the meantime I feel like that's a fic someone could write  |
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Post by Oigirl on Nov 19, 2015 16:16:58 GMT
I enjoyed the mystery in this one, and like most here, the Brackenreid family scenes. Once again George's latest seemingly irrelevant interest helped guide the progress of the investigation. Not really anything else to say that other folks haven't mentioned. I will admit I was not very impressed with the character of Carrie Nation. I get so used to MM's outstanding guest actors I'm disappointed when I see one that is, in my humble opinion, not quite up to par. She may have just been doomed however by the nature of such a one dimensional character. She did carry off the axe holster however LOL.
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Post by Hodge on Nov 19, 2015 16:26:48 GMT
He didn't seem particularly upset. True - but we don't know what happened later that night. If this isn't the terrible experience, we need to know the real one. Perhaps that's what resulted in the William Jr. line. He wasn't upset the next day either other than being hung over. I don't think this is the first time he's been drunk he'd, more or less, sworn off alcohol before this so whenever it was it was in his younger days I believe. Maybe when he was at the logging camp. |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 20, 2015 11:50:24 GMT
True - but we don't know what happened later that night. If this isn't the terrible experience, we need to know the real one. Perhaps that's what resulted in the William Jr. line. He wasn't upset the next day either other than being hung over. I don't think this is the first time he's been drunk he'd, more or less, sworn off alcohol before this so whenever it was it was in his younger days I believe. Maybe when he was at the logging camp. I would agree that his first experience with alcohol was as a young man at the logging camp. I think there needs to be fic for this. |
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Post by Hodge on Nov 20, 2015 16:49:46 GMT
He wasn't upset the next day either other than being hung over. I don't think this is the first time he's been drunk he'd, more or less, sworn off alcohol before this so whenever it was it was in his younger days I believe. Maybe when he was at the logging camp. I would agree that his first experience with alcohol was as a young man at the logging camp. I think there needs to be fic for this. Be my guest...! |
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 21, 2015 1:08:31 GMT
Was that a period fire hydrant? Hi, No that hydrant is a model B50B that was designed in 1950, but not patented until 1954, so that one is most likely made after 1954. But fire hydrants were common in 1903 so they probably thought nobody would notice. Photo of Toronto hydrant circa 1900.  Thanks for clearing that up Mr. Hydrant! |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 26, 2015 3:38:14 GMT
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Post by snacky on Nov 26, 2015 6:11:21 GMT
Woot, it's been a while (maybe over a year) since I got my act together to read some fanfic! lol at William the exhibitionist - that would never of occurred to me! However, harkening back to my high school years, I did date a couple guys who seemed mostly interested in showing off that they had "make out rights" over me to their parents. Frankly this made me feel used and gave me the creeps, and that was usually our last date. I wonder if this was a subconscious class thing for William - needing to show off he could reel in a high class lady...?  I can easily imagine that carriage ride happening...  |
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 26, 2015 10:02:05 GMT
Woot, it's been a while (maybe over a year) since I got my act together to read some fanfic! lol at William the exhibitionist - that would never of occurred to me! However, harkening back to my high school years, I did date a couple guys who seemed mostly interested in showing off that they had "make out rights" over me to their parents. Frankly this made me feel used and gave me the creeps, and that was usually our last date. I wonder if this was a subconscious class thing for William - needing to show off he could reel in a high class lady...? I can easily imagine that carriage ride happening... It was nothing nefarious, demonstrating ownership, or anything like that-just some private messenger chats I've had on ff.net with a few people about how William's propriety is actually a cover for his perviness. If you think of it, William seems to delight in public encounters and probably enjoys the thrill of possibly being caught. Julia enjoys shocking people. This is what happens when those two kinks collide. Nothing more profound intended than that. |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 26, 2015 16:09:27 GMT
*Spoilers* Who switched out the gin? The killer? or did he have an accomplice? Murdoch kept saying no one but the barkeep (and later the wife) had an opportunity to do it, so when could the killer have done it? But they didn't mention an accomplice...so unless they cut another scene...I'm probably overthinking this and the killer did switch it out on his own some time in-between the dead guys visits. Also, was it just me, or was the wife a really bad actress? This is a plot hole for me as well. How did the killer know that the barkeep would pull out the particular bottle with water? It would have been more interesting/believable if they were working together, each with their own motive. I think the bottle with water was a natural because it was the only partial. A Bartender will empty the open before using the next one. If the killer had simply made sure the bottle with water was the only open then the bartender would have used it. |
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Post by oklahomafan on Nov 26, 2015 16:17:40 GMT
Great fanfic. I can see this happening though I can also imagine additional dialogue at the bar that could have gotten very interesting. You have a perfect read on the characters in my opinion and I am so glad William ordered something different than Spruce Beer. |
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