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Post by camilla on Apr 25, 2011 11:15:25 GMT
totally agree with you. their romance is the reason i got into the show in the first place. Me too!!!
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 16, 2014 23:42:02 GMT
So I totally have a headcanon that William was with his sister when she died.
*implores the fanfiction gods for a fic*
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Post by snacky on Nov 16, 2014 23:52:03 GMT
So I totally have a headcanon that William was with his sister when she died. *implores the fanfiction gods for a fic* That so didn't happen in the books, which seems horrible.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 17, 2014 0:22:33 GMT
So I totally have a headcanon that William was with his sister when she died. *implores the fanfiction gods for a fic* That so didn't happen in the books, which seems horrible. As the King of Compartmentalization, William just filed it away of she was already dead to him anyway, so.... Which isn't to say that he didn't care, but he'd already accepted that he would never see her again, so what real difference did it make? She was just another person who abandoned him-and he'd long come to terms with that.
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 0:29:27 GMT
That so didn't happen in the books, which seems horrible. As the King of Compartmentalization, William just filed it away of she was already dead to him anyway, so.... Which isn't to say that he didn't care, but he'd already accepted that he would never see her again, so what real difference did it make? She was just another person who abandoned him-and he'd long come to terms with that. My understanding is that she went into some kind of seclusion, and William couldn't see her - that's part of what he was so upset about.
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 17, 2014 0:39:32 GMT
As the King of Compartmentalization, William just filed it away of she was already dead to him anyway, so.... Which isn't to say that he didn't care, but he'd already accepted that he would never see her again, so what real difference did it make? She was just another person who abandoned him-and he'd long come to terms with that. My understanding is that she went into some kind of seclusion, and William couldn't see her - that's part of what he was so upset about. She'd already renounced the world and taken leave anyway. He was surprised to see her-he clearly hadn't thought he ever would again, so it wasn't much of an event when she said she was dying-she already kinda was in his mind.
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 17, 2014 0:45:38 GMT
My understanding is that she went into some kind of seclusion, and William couldn't see her - that's part of what he was so upset about. She'd already renounced the world and taken leave anyway. He was surprised to see her-he clearly hadn't thought he ever would again, so it wasn't much of an event when she said she was dying-she already kinda was in his mind. Well yeah, but that doesn't stop him being there when she died. *clings to shreds of headcanon*
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 1:01:43 GMT
She'd already renounced the world and taken leave anyway. He was surprised to see her-he clearly hadn't thought he ever would again, so it wasn't much of an event when she said she was dying-she already kinda was in his mind. Well yeah, but that doesn't stop him being there when she died. *clings to shreds of headcanon* Having invented duct tape (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape), William used only his swiss army knife and duct tape to scale the walls of the convent, remove the grill, and hide under his sister's cot so he could be holding her hand and praying with her upon her last breath.
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Post by randomkiwibirds on Nov 17, 2014 1:02:59 GMT
Well yeah, but that doesn't stop him being there when she died. *clings to shreds of headcanon* Having invented duct tape (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape), William used only his swiss army knife and duct tape to scale the walls of the convent, remove the grill, and hide under his sister's cot so he could be holding her hand and praying with her upon her last breath. Can't. Breathe. Laughing too hard.
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Post by snacky on Nov 17, 2014 1:07:38 GMT
Having invented duct tape (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape), William used only his swiss army knife and duct tape to scale the walls of the convent, remove the grill, and hide under his sister's cot so he could be holding her hand and praying with her upon her last breath. Can't. Breathe. Laughing too hard. William has to invent duct tape. The prototype is in 1902!!!!!!!
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 4:40:44 GMT
Only started rewatching Voices before eclair had to run off. Will probably try again tomorrow. I wanted to play closer attention to the scene where Susannah was talking about how William had to question God's ways - that might shed some insight into how William can accept the unfolding future while maintaining his faith. William is definitely maintaining his faith if we can go by the sharp look he gave the brain scientist in MMAS when the scientist scoffed at those that still clung to belief in the soul! Susannah really laid on that guilt trip thick - I wonder if until that point William felt he had abandoned his sister and/or his responsibilities toward her - and why he did it. William is such a responsible guy now, this sort of jives with FallenBelle's view that William had a "wilder" youth that was radically curtailed by some incident. I'm not sure - I don't think an introverted or highly rational personality is something that does radically come into being...unless William did get hit over the head or suffer from some neurological damage at some point. And that explanation is probably too complicated for MM. It will be interesting to see what the writers posit as William's past given the fact he just took off to "become a lumberjack" at 17 after being so "analytical" at the Jesuit school that his teachers didn't even think he could appreciate (his namesake!!!) Shakespeare!
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 22, 2014 17:59:37 GMT
Only started rewatching Voices before eclair had to run off. Will probably try again tomorrow. I wanted to play closer attention to the scene where Susannah was talking about how William had to question God's ways - that might shed some insight into how William can accept the unfolding future while maintaining his faith. William is definitely maintaining his faith if we can go by the sharp look he gave the brain scientist in MMAS when the scientist scoffed at those that still clung to belief in the soul! Susannah really laid on that guilt trip thick - I wonder if until that point William felt he had abandoned his sister and/or his responsibilities toward her - and why he did it. William is such a responsible guy now, this sort of jives with FallenBelle's view that William had a "wilder" youth that was radically curtailed by some incident. I'm not sure - I don't think an introverted or highly rational personality is something that does radically come into being...unless William did get hit over the head or suffer from some neurological damage at some point. And that explanation is probably too complicated for MM. It will be interesting to see what the writers posit as William's past given the fact he just took off to "become a lumberjack" at 17 after being so "analytical" at the Jesuit school that his teachers didn't even think he could appreciate (his namesake!!!) Shakespeare! He sexed a girl up (for a scientific experiment), accidentally got her pregnant and then fled!
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Post by snacky on Nov 22, 2014 18:53:58 GMT
He sexed a girl up (for a scientific experiment), accidentally got her pregnant and then fled! William, being a noble guy, was probably talked into a pact of silence to cover up some corruption that led to a horrible logging camp accident in order to facilitate some greater good like getting the town dam built or something. Oooh, or maybe he participated in an early strike, and some of their tactics, like breaking up a dam, caused an accident which cost some people their lives?
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Post by Fallenbelle on Nov 22, 2014 20:15:42 GMT
Only started rewatching Voices before eclair had to run off. Will probably try again tomorrow. I wanted to play closer attention to the scene where Susannah was talking about how William had to question God's ways - that might shed some insight into how William can accept the unfolding future while maintaining his faith. William is definitely maintaining his faith if we can go by the sharp look he gave the brain scientist in MMAS when the scientist scoffed at those that still clung to belief in the soul! Susannah really laid on that guilt trip thick - I wonder if until that point William felt he had abandoned his sister and/or his responsibilities toward her - and why he did it. William is such a responsible guy now, this sort of jives with FallenBelle's view that William had a "wilder" youth that was radically curtailed by some incident. I'm not sure - I don't think an introverted or highly rational personality is something that does radically come into being...unless William did get hit over the head or suffer from some neurological damage at some point. And that explanation is probably too complicated for MM. It will be interesting to see what the writers posit as William's past given the fact he just took off to "become a lumberjack" at 17 after being so "analytical" at the Jesuit school that his teachers didn't even think he could appreciate (his namesake!!!) Shakespeare! He sexed a girl up (for a scientific experiment), accidentally got her pregnant and then fled! I think it's something like this. At least I hope there's something salacious involving a woman.
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Post by CosmicCavalcade on Nov 22, 2014 20:17:44 GMT
He sexed a girl up (for a scientific experiment), accidentally got her pregnant and then fled! I think it's something like this. At least I hope there's something salacious involving a woman. or involving a man.
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